What was so great about Jesus?

[89Hen]

That's nonsense, you just didn't maximize the V. The V is equal party to the M in that equation, it's just a matter of how to go about increasing it. But mathematically speaking, they're equivalent.

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

[GannonFan]

Speaking of sith lords, how stupid was Palpatine's sith name? Seriously, Darth Sidious? Like he, as a person, is insidious? Wow, great mental leap by Lucas on that one. And do you think they came up with the name Darth Bane (he of the rule of two genesis) before or after the Batman movies with their own Bane?

Why is Count Dooku also Darth Tyranus? Did he stop being a sith? Or is Dooku his alias and he's secretly Tyranus(but not really)

Also in defense of the prequiles How awesome is/was General Grevious!

I believe he was always known as Count Dooku, that was his public name (he was artistocracy). When he turned dark, that's when he got his secret name, Darth Tyranus. Everyone knew that he was anti-Republic since he was doing that in his Count Dooku persona (which was also ex-Jedi), but the wheelings and dealings behind the scene with Palpatine was the only place he was known as Darth Tyranus.

Amazingly, Vader continues to be one of the best names, and it was the first one they had. It just rolls off the tongue..."Vader". Cool name.

They should've done more backstory on Grevious - while he was cool, he just sort of popped up in the third prequel out of nowhere.

[D1B]

Questions like this are ironic. No one asks this question about some historical figure unless there is something great about that figure.

No need to answer this question today. I'll let my great grandson handle this question when D1B's great grand nephew asks it again in 100 years.

Greatness doesn't have to be real, deserved or completely thought out - which is the subject of this thread, oh, and Star Wars weaponry.

[D1B]

That's nonsense, you just didn't maximize the V. The V is equal party to the M in that equation, it's just a matter of how to go about increasing it. But mathematically speaking, they're equivalent.

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

You ever get the feeling god is a petulant bad child and that was his version of frying ants with a magnifying glass?

[GannonFan]

That's nonsense, you just didn't maximize the V. The V is equal party to the M in that equation, it's just a matter of how to go about increasing it. But mathematically speaking, they're equivalent.

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

Indeed, it's like that whole quote about being able to move the Earth with a lever as long as you can find a place to stand in space. Math is math, just make the V really big and the F gets big too. I watched "Gravity" a few months ago, and it's amazing what little tiny bits of metal can do in space when travelling at super high velocities. Very little M, very big V, results in very big F. Math is cool like that.

[andy7171]

Why is Count Dooku also Darth Tyranus? Did he stop being a sith? Or is Dooku his alias and he's secretly Tyranus(but not really)

Also in defense of the prequiles How awesome is/was General Grevious!

I believe he was always known as Count Dooku, that was his public name (he was artistocracy). When he turned dark, that's when he got his secret name, Darth Tyranus. Everyone knew that he was anti-Republic since he was doing that in his Count Dooku persona (which was also ex-Jedi), but the wheelings and dealings behind the scene with Palpatine was the only place he was known as Darth Tyranus.

Amazingly, Vader continues to be one of the best names, and it was the first one they had. It just rolls off the tongue..."Vader". Cool name.

They should've done more backstory on Grevious - while he was cool, he just sort of popped up in the third prequel out of nowhere.

Grevious has a very cool back story, I read about him and how he collected all the lightsabers he had. I was looking forward to his character, and then he just gets offed quickly. Aw shucks.

[GannonFan]

I believe he was always known as Count Dooku, that was his public name (he was artistocracy). When he turned dark, that's when he got his secret name, Darth Tyranus. Everyone knew that he was anti-Republic since he was doing that in his Count Dooku persona (which was also ex-Jedi), but the wheelings and dealings behind the scene with Palpatine was the only place he was known as Darth Tyranus.

Amazingly, Vader continues to be one of the best names, and it was the first one they had. It just rolls off the tongue..."Vader". Cool name.

They should've done more backstory on Grevious - while he was cool, he just sort of popped up in the third prequel out of nowhere.

Grevious has a very cool back story, I read about him and how he collected all the lightsabers he had. I was looking forward to his character, and then he just gets offed quickly. Aw shucks.

I agree, his story is cool, it just wasn't even touched on in the movie. He features prominently in the animated Clone Wars series, which was a pretty good production. I mean, I was fine with having Natalie Portman as eye-candy in the films, but anything that could've reduced Anakin's screen time would've been beneficial.

[kalm]

Judging by this thread...Grevious > Jesus.

[CAA Flagship]

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

Indeed, it's like that whole quote about being able to move the Earth with a lever as long as you can find a place to stand in space. Math is math, just make the V really big and the F gets big too. I watched "Gravity" a few months ago, and it's amazing what little tiny bits of metal can do in space when travelling at super high velocities. Very little M, very big V, results in very big F. Math is cool like that.

V, M, F? What kind of math is that? I thought math has numbers. Common Core BS?

[89Hen]

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

You ever get the feeling god is a petulant bad child and that was his version of frying ants with a magnifying glass?

I can see that people can get that feeling. Others overcome.

[D1B]

You ever get the feeling god is a petulant bad child and that was his version of frying ants with a magnifying glass?

I can see that people can get that feeling. Others overcome.

Yes, some overcome by self-deception. However, most never have to overcome anything because the myth was pounded into them since birth. And therein is the source of the greatness of jesus - indoctrination.

As I've shown, he clearly didn't do anything spectacular to deserve it, humans just continue to heap praise on him then indoctrinate children. A cycle perpetuated for almost 2000 years.

[89Hen]

[Ibanez]

I believe he was always known as Count Dooku, that was his public name (he was artistocracy). When he turned dark, that's when he got his secret name, Darth Tyranus. Everyone knew that he was anti-Republic since he was doing that in his Count Dooku persona (which was also ex-Jedi), but the wheelings and dealings behind the scene with Palpatine was the only place he was known as Darth Tyranus.

Amazingly, Vader continues to be one of the best names, and it was the first one they had. It just rolls off the tongue..."Vader". Cool name.

They should've done more backstory on Grevious - while he was cool, he just sort of popped up in the third prequel out of nowhere.

Grevious has a very cool back story, I read about him and how he collected all the lightsabers he had. I was looking forward to his character, and then he just gets offed quickly. Aw shucks.

Yeah, but the way he goes out is cool.

[D1B]

Surely you know the answer to that question for those who believe he is the Son of God, died for our sins, etc. And if you don't believe all that he's not that great to you. But you already know why he's so great to those who believe he's so great.

Well that's the discussion here. Should he be great for being the son of god and having all the benefits that go with that title and really squandering the opportunity?

As far as him "dying for our sins," which is the reflexive bleat reply from christians, I'll bet you 9 of 10 couldn't even tell you what that means. It's the "Its got Electrolytes" reply of christians.

Ok, so he died four our sins ... Well for one thing, he never died for anything, as son of god he was immune from death and he knew god damn well he was going to rise and become the most powerful god ever - AND SAVE HUMANITY IN THE PROCESS. What can be better than that? Each and every person on the planet would gladly accept that gig in a fucking second with poise and smile through the whole thing, but here is the jesus the great:



This is the image of the suffering Jesus that the catholics and fundies want you to envision and not clearly and deeply think about the back story highlighted above. A great god would have showed courage. Look at the poise and serenity Socrates showed when he was killed. Hell, mere mortals show more courage every day than jesus did. Wasn't there a pregnant woman recently who opted not to get chemo and died to save her unborn child? Or those students in Tienanmen Square.... None of em had the security blanket of being the son of god or saving humanity or immunity from death or the top god job waiting for em after the interview.

[89Hen]

None of em had the security blanket of being the son of god or saving humanity or immunity from death or the top god job waiting for em after the interview.

Um, yes they do.

[Grizalltheway]

What?

[89Hen]

Where?

[D1B]

None of em had the security blanket of being the son of god or saving humanity or immunity from death or the top god job waiting for em after the interview.

Um, yes they do.

[houndawg]

I for one like the lightclaymore

If you are a jedi and can leap building and move **** with your mind, surely you can avoid nicking your wrists with the hilt beams

Oh boy, here we go...the old speed vs mass debate...again.

Had some judo instructor once imply that a 32" light bamboo baton generated more force than an ash baton, as the decreased weight resulted in increased speed.
After attempting to explain F=mv, I could not dissuade him.

The following day, I brought a custom 32" african cocobola wood (extremely dense/strong...almost twice the weight of ash), pulled out a steel framed "numb john", and in three wacks BENT THE STEEL IN THE UPPER ARM!!

I then offered a months pay if he could do the same with the bamboo baton.

End of story.

M over V any day.

Full of shit, as usual. I promised to be nicer if you'd be smarter, but you aren't holding up your end of the deal. I was waiting for JSO to point out your embarrassing shortcomings in elementary physics so you wouldn't start whining about the mean ol wibewuls picking on you again.

F=ma, not F=mv. Huge difference. Your judo teacher didn't believe you because you were wrong.

[Brock Landers]

Holy shit.







How did it take me 8 years to realize what a bunch of f#$king Star Wars nerds you all are?

[D1B]

Oh boy, here we go...the old speed vs mass debate...again.

Had some judo instructor once imply that a 32" light bamboo baton generated more force than an ash baton, as the decreased weight resulted in increased speed.
After attempting to explain F=mv, I could not dissuade him.

The following day, I brought a custom 32" african cocobola wood (extremely dense/strong...almost twice the weight of ash), pulled out a steel framed "numb john", and in three wacks BENT THE STEEL IN THE UPPER ARM!!

I then offered a months pay if he could do the same with the bamboo baton.

End of story.

M over V any day.

Full of shit, as usual. I promised to be nicer if you'd be smarter, but you aren't holding up your end of the deal. I was waiting for JSO to point out your embarrassing shortcomings in elementary physics so you wouldn't start whining about the mean ol wibewuls picking on you again.

F=ma, not F=mv. Huge difference. Your judo teacher didn't believe you because you were wrong.

I noticed this too. What shame.

Thanks for correcting him, Houndawg. This one is gonna sting, so please don't pile on him.

[travelinman67]

Holy fuck...I made a mistake. P=mv, not F.

It does not change my premise.

Given a 1/8g feather and a 300g piece of ash, the velocity required for the feather to generate lethal momentum exceeds the capability of the unassisted human...not so for the 300g ash.

Therefore, though mathematically equivalent, in application, M beats V.

Dive in.

[houndawg]

Holy ****...I made a mistake. P=mv, not F.

It does not change my premise.

Given a 1/8g feather and a 300g piece of ash, the velocity required for the feather to generate lethal momentum exceeds the capability of the unassisted human...not so for the 300g ash.

Therefore, though mathematically equivalent, in application, M beats V.

Dive in.

Two mistakes. F=ma is the relevant equation to your premise, not p=mv. "Lethal momentum" is the wrong phrase to describe what you're trying to describe, "lethal force" is correct. Note that a=dv/dt and that a force, (F), is actually proportional to the change in momentum, (p), with respect to time. Again, big difference.

[houndawg]

Watched a cool show on extinctions and the one that got the dinos was just a little rock compared to the Earth. But it had one hell of a V.

Indeed, it's like that whole quote about being able to move the Earth with a lever as long as you can find a place to stand in space. Math is math, just make the V really big and the F gets big too. I watched "Gravity" a few months ago, and it's amazing what little tiny bits of metal can do in space when travelling at super high velocities. Very little M, very big V, results in very big F. Math is cool like that.

Et tu, GF? You and tman need to check your units and figure out what you're trying to talk about.

[travelinman67]

Holy ****...I made a mistake. P=mv, not F.

It does not change my premise.

Given a 1/8g feather and a 300g piece of ash, the velocity required for the feather to generate lethal momentum exceeds the capability of the unassisted human...not so for the 300g ash.

Therefore, though mathematically equivalent, in application, M beats V.

Dive in.

Two mistakes. F=ma is the relevant equation to your premise, not p=mv. "Lethal momentum" is the wrong phrase to describe what you're trying to describe, "lethal force" is correct. Note that a=dv/dt and that a force, (F), is actually proportional to the change in momentum, (p), with respect to time. Again, big difference.

Wrong. Momentum CAN determine lethality. Acceleration, while effecting force IS NOT a necessary variable to determine lethality.

I acknowledged my function error. Now you're just howling at the moon.

Try again.