Gays want to be taken seriously (and from behind)...I thought we were helping them.Pwns wrote:I can't believe people are actually taking this at face value.
Are you raining on our parade?

Gays want to be taken seriously (and from behind)...I thought we were helping them.Pwns wrote:I can't believe people are actually taking this at face value.


I think we get that its a kind of joke... a joke being played out on the California political systemPwns wrote:I can't believe people are actually taking this at face value.

Which brings us to Monday mornings Uber Liberal "voice of the Democrat party" newspaper The Sacramento Bee's editorial..."...raise the fees to file initiatives..."travelinman67 wrote:[Posted on Sunday 03/22]Chizzang wrote:The question on my mind is:
Would I throw away the right to practice law (Disbarred) just to make some kind of odd statement
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This guy will be run up the flagpole and disbarred within 180 days
and unless he's got some kind of a book deal in the works - was it worth it..?
The agenda.
This initiative IS NOT ABOUT HATE.
It's about the initiative process in California.
For decades, the Leftislature in CA has worked to limit the ability of voters to act through the initiative process, in effect, attempting to eliminate the entire constitutional procedure...traditionally used to remedy California's failed partisan government.
In this past election, the Secretary of State disqualified 17 proposals, often for dubious reasons, many are now facing legal challenges as having been unconstitutionally kept off the ballot...
...which brings us to the challenge process.
Currently, all challenges to disqualifications go through the State Attorney General, Kamala Harris...yes, THAT Kamala Harris!
Starting with the infamous Prop 108 ruling, where she declared sole standing to defend proposed initiatives and the courts confirmed Harris' sole standing, THEN REFUSED TO DEFEND THE LAW, Harris created a legal terrain where the State Attorney General becomes the sole arbiter of whether initiatives reach the ballot, and if passed, whether they become law.
Harris, FIERCELY POLITICAL, has used this authority liberally to silence California's initiative process.
Of those 17 initiatives disqualified, several were found to have met all requirements, but their content and proposed law went against the California Democrat agenda, and thus, were kept off the ballot. There are several legal actions making their way through the courts to remedy this breakdown...and eventually, Harris's shenanigans will be stopped...
...which brings us to the "Sodomite Suppression Act".
99.99999999999999999999999% of the electorate understands that a law proposing the extermination of a class of people solely resulting from their sexual preference is...
...insanity.
It would never pass. If the earth stopped rotating, the sun stopped shining, gravity ended, Kanye West learned to sing, and this initiative passed, it would never become law.
But, that's not the point.
Out of this bizarre incident, Gov. Moonbeam, Harris, and the Leftislature are attempting to craft another method to supplant Harris's unconstitutional abdication of her constitutionally proscribed duties (as California's chief law enforcement officer, she is sworn to enforce and defend the law), whereby they can continue to short circuit California's initiative process and retain their sole control of the State's governance.
Wake up, people.
Once again, it's NOT ABOUT THE INITIATIVE, IT'S ANOUT MAKING THE INITIATIVE PROCESS INACCESSIBLE.Deter the deluded: Raise initiative fee
BY THE EDITORIAL BOARD
03/22/2015 5:01 PM
Attorney General Kamala Harris is reviewing an initiative to allow the killing of gay Californians.
Delusional causes are no strangers to California’s initiative process. Outlawing divorce, criminalizing campaign lies, mandating Christmas caroling for public school children – all have been tried.Usually, they fizzle out. But now comes Orange County lawyer Matt McLaughlin, who, regrettably, also is no stranger to California’s initiative process.
McLaughlin, who in 2004 tried and failed via the ballot to force public schools to use the Bible as a textbook, is now testing the limits of free speech – and tolerance – with an ugly ballot measure authorizing the murder of gays and lesbians, preferably with bullets.The “Sodomite Suppression Act” is so repellent that the Legislature’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus has asked the State Bar to investigate McLaughlin’s fitness to practice law, and thousands have signed a petition to disbar him. Both moves are understandable, though, given the First Amendment, unlikely to yield much satisfaction.""
More promising, though, is the suggestion that we take this as a sign that it’s time to raise the bar for initiative filings. Right now, anyone with $200 can submit an idea to the attorney general, who then must draft a title and summary for the measure.It’s an unnecessarily low first hurdle. Intended to cover the costs of analyzing and verifying petitions, the fee hasn’t changed since 1943. The idea has been to preserve access for ordinary Californians. But $200 today is the equivalent of $14.80 in 1943 dollars. No group with plans to affect 39 million people needs that kind of discount.
If lawmakers had done no more than insist on constant dollars, the fee would by now be about $2,700, which still is only about a third of the administrative cost of preparing a title and summary. The fee should be raised.

Chizzang wrote:The question on my mind is:
Would I throw away the right to practice law (Disbarred) just to make some kind of odd statement
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This guy will be run up the flagpole and disbarred within 180 days
and unless he's got some kind of a book deal in the works - was it worth it..?


I agree with you that as an individual he has that right. But, as a member of a group that has it's own rules for the betterment of that group he falls under a different level of scrutiny and he knew that when they licensed him.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Chizzang wrote:The question on my mind is:
Would I throw away the right to practice law (Disbarred) just to make some kind of odd statement
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This guy will be run up the flagpole and disbarred within 180 days
and unless he's got some kind of a book deal in the works - was it worth it..?
The fact this guy could lose his right to practice law for having an opinion is just another thing that is wrong with this country.
Hate what he says all you want, he still has the right to say it.



Certainly, as is he for several reasons, not he least of which being part of "they".ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:"They" are assholes

Sophisticated linguistics there Uterus A. HorribillyUrsus A. Horribilis wrote:Certainly, as is he for several reasons, not the least of which being part of "they".ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:"They" are assholes

Good cover. Girlfriend, her, you are really picking up on the keywords. Problem comes in when you try to expand a point and add remarks like "Yeah and then when I was sucking her dick she grabbed me by the ears and..."Chizzang wrote:Sophisticated linguistics there Uterus A. HorribillyUrsus A. Horribilis wrote: Certainly, as is he for several reasons, not the least of which being part of "they".
You're staring to talk like my girlfriend - I love listening to her talk



Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Good cover. Girlfriend, her, you are really picking up on the keywords. Problem comes in when you try to expand a point and add remarks like "Yeah and then when I was sucking her dick she grabbed me by the ears and..."Chizzang wrote:
Sophisticated linguistics there Uterus A. Horribilly
You're staring to talk like my girlfriend - I love listening to her talk
Now STFU shitdick.

You are the most punchable friend I got. That's saying something...Grizo and all.Chizzang wrote:Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Good cover. Girlfriend, her, you are really picking up on the keywords. Problem comes in when you try to expand a point and add remarks like "Yeah and then when I was sucking her dick she grabbed me by the ears and..."
Now STFU shitdick.
Back when you and I were BFF we never talked like this - so mean - to each other...

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Good cover. Girlfriend, her, you are really picking up on the keywords. Problem comes in when you try to expand a point and add remarks like "Yeah and then when I was sucking her dick she grabbed me by the ears and..."Chizzang wrote:
Sophisticated linguistics there Uterus A. Horribilly
You're staring to talk like my girlfriend - I love listening to her talk
Now STFU shitdick.



Nailed it brother. If I was wearing a coat made of fresh Salmon and each fresh Salmon was filled with honey for extra warmth I would still rather sit down with a bear and have a conversation.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Id rather chat with the bear.................
Go back to AGS, Butt Grease. You're starting to piss me off.Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Nailed it brother. If I was wearing a coat made of fresh Salmon and each fresh Salmon was filled with honey for extra warmth I would still rather sit down with a bear and have a conversation.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Id rather chat with the bear.................
Less painful.

No.D1B wrote:Go back to AGS, Butt Grease. You're starting to piss me off.Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Nailed it brother. If I was wearing a coat made of fresh Salmon and each fresh Salmon was filled with honey for extra warmth I would still rather sit down with a bear and have a conversation.
Less painful.
Take your boyfriend Alpobitz1 with you.

Whatever you'd like to call your last visit. I'm not judging.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Cheneyism?

I just want to make sure this absolute gem does not go unnoticedkalm wrote:Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Good cover. Girlfriend, her, you are really picking up on the keywords. Problem comes in when you try to expand a point and add remarks like "Yeah and then when I was sucking her dick she grabbed me by the ears and..."
Now STFU shitdick.![]()
"Some things are the same wherever you go. Like if it feels like more than two fingers, it's probably a cock."
- Dave Atell



Nah... if the court does something really chuckleheaded all the President has to do is pull an Andrew Jackson and say "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."JohnStOnge wrote:So people are worried about having tens of millions of people vote on how they are to be governed in the culture they have to live in but they're not worried about having the whole country governed by simple majority decisions among 9 unelected and completely unaccountable life term officials who can say whatever the hell they want regardless of what the Constitution actually says?
Seriously. The role of the Supreme Court is a LOT bigger problem than Public Initiative is.



Vastly outnumber = appropriately whitewashedSuperHornet wrote:Again, this is a non-starter. The libs in SF/LA vastly outnumber the conservative base in SD and the Central Valley. (Which is why uniformed outsiders wrongly whitewash the entire state as "liberal.") Therefore, whatever conservatives think individually or as a group, when this comes up to a vote, it will go away at that point.
And the odd thing is that conservatives will likely vote this down as well. Whatever one thinks of the idea, it would cost way too much to enforce.

Yeah, that's the biggest concern with it. Cost of enforcement!SuperHornet wrote:Again, this is a non-starter. The libs in SF/LA vastly outnumber the conservative base in SD and the Central Valley. (Which is why uniformed outsiders wrongly whitewash the entire state as "liberal.") Therefore, whatever conservatives think individually or as a group, when this comes up to a vote, it will go away at that point.
And the odd thing is that conservatives will likely vote this down as well. Whatever one thinks of the idea, it would cost way too much to enforce.