Senate override of keystone veto fails

[houndawg]

Boehner sole nominee in category of "Most fvcked in the ass by a black man outside of prison".

Does he secretly like it? Discuss.

[Baldy]

Boehner sole nominee in category of "Most fvcked in the ass by a black man outside of prison".

Does he secretly like it? Discuss.

Ummm...Boehner isn't in the Senate.

[houndawg]

Boehner sole nominee in category of "Most fvcked in the ass by a black man outside of prison".

Does he secretly like it? Discuss.

Ummm...Boehner isn't in the Senate.

yes, balsack, we know that, but the XL is Boehners baby and he can't get his good friend McConnell to deliver. I guess you could say the the President had his way with both other houses.

[LeadBolt]

That's the way the system is supposed to work, and I'm glad to see it working as it should again, not being circumvented by Harry Reid's not allowing bills to be voted on, or being circumvented by bogus executive orders.

[houndawg]

That's the way the system is supposed to work, and I'm glad to see it working as it should again, not being circumvented by Harry Reid's not allowing bills to be voted on, or being circumvented by bogus executive orders.

Word is that McConnell and Boehner don't like each other and McConne relished the opportunity to stick it to Johnny B....

[tribe_pride]

That's the way the system is supposed to work, and I'm glad to see it working as it should again, not being circumvented by Harry Reid's not allowing bills to be voted on, or being circumvented by bogus executive orders.

Agreed. I am anti-filibuster and was when Democrats were the majority in the Senate so I believe that Reid and McConnell are in similar positions with respect to this. If the filibuster is to remain intact though, my thought is that if you are going to filibuster, you should be required to do it alone like Jefferson Smith did.

Otherwise, bring it up for a vote. Whether or not it passes is another story.

[LeadBolt]

That's the way the system is supposed to work, and I'm glad to see it working as it should again, not being circumvented by Harry Reid's not allowing bills to be voted on, or being circumvented by bogus executive orders.

Word is that McConnell and Boehner don't like each other and McConne relished the opportunity to stick it to Johnny B....

Fine. The system is starting to work the way it should again. A small step admittedly, but it is not being subverted by Harry Reid any longer.

[Baldy]

Ummm...Boehner isn't in the Senate.

You're right. Thank you for correcting me, again.

You're welcome.

[Baldy]

Word is that McConnell and Boehner don't like each other and McConne relished the opportunity to stick it to Johnny B....

Fine. The system is starting to work the way it should again. A small step admittedly, but it is not being subverted by Harry Reid any longer.

At least Obama can't hide under Harry's skirt any longer.

[travelinman67]

The majority of voters support the Keystone project.

Dems

Lose

Senate

And

More

House

Seats.

Dems

Don't

Learn.

[kalm]

The majority of voters support the Keystone project.

Dems

Lose

Senate

And

More

House

Seats.

Dems

Don't

Learn.

Huh? Why wasn't the veto over-ridden?

Turns out…it depends how you ask the question. Keep in mind that most voters also supported Obama twice.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -back-key/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[DSUrocks07]

The majority of voters support the Keystone project.

Dems

Lose

Senate

And

More

House

Seats.

Dems

Don't

Learn.

Huh? Why wasn't the veto over-ridden?

Turns out…it depends how you ask the question. Keep in mind that most voters also supported Obama twice.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -back-key/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So you're saying that media spin works on the American sheeple...i mean the American public?

Water is also wet you know?

[kalm]

Huh? Why wasn't the veto over-ridden?

Turns out…it depends how you ask the question. Keep in mind that most voters also supported Obama twice.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -back-key/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So you're saying that media spin works on the American sheeple...i mean the American public?

Water is also wet you know?

American voters also support gay marriage, legalization of weed, social security benefits, and single payer healthcare

[BDKJMU]

So you're saying that media spin works on the American sheeple...i mean the American public?

Water is also wet you know?

American voters also support gay marriage, legalization of weed, social security benefits, and single payer healthcare

You're would be right on all the issues if you had said the majority of Americans. But you implied the majority of American voters, which isn't the same.

Wrong on a majority of voters supporting gay marriage. Maybe a plurality of Americans polled have shown that. Maybe there's even a nationwide poll(s) showing a majority of likely voters support it. But so far, its been shown that a majority of actual voters haven't supported it. Regardless of what any polls say, of the people who vote have actually voted on gay marriage at the polls in the last decade in 38 states, in 34 they have voted to keep marriage between a man & a woman.

On Marijuana Polls since late 2014:
Support for marijuana legalization is at 51% according to Nov 2014 Gallup. It was random sampling. It wasn't conducted among likely voters, and it was within the +/- 4 point margin of error to be over/under a plurality for either side of the issue.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/179195/major ... ation.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nov 2014 Pew is at 52% support, but it was random sampling. It wasn't conducted among likely voters, and it was within the margin of error to be over/under a plurality for either side of the issue.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... marijuana/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can't find any national poll of likely voters in the last year showing a majority supports it.

On single payer you might be right. Latest national poll, this one of likely voters, showed just over 50% supported single payer, still within the margin of error to be a plurality either for or against.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/22 ... poll-finds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No disagreement on social security. I would say on those other 3 issues America is pretty equally divided.

[kalm]

American voters also support gay marriage, legalization of weed, social security benefits, and single payer healthcare

You're would be right on all the issues if you had said the majority of Americans. But you implied the majority of American voters, which isn't the same.

Wrong on a majority of voters supporting gay marriage. Maybe a plurality of Americans polled have shown that. Maybe there's even a nationwide poll(s) showing a majority of likely voters support it. But so far, its been shown that a majority of actual voters haven't supported it. Regardless of what any polls say, of the people who vote have actually voted on gay marriage at the polls in the last decade in 38 states, in 34 they have voted to keep marriage between a man & a woman.

On Marijuana Polls since late 2014:
Support for marijuana legalization is at 51% according to Nov 2014 Gallup. It was random sampling. It wasn't conducted among likely voters, and it was within the +/- 4 point margin of error to be over/under a plurality for either side of the issue.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/179195/major ... ation.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nov 2014 Pew is at 52% support, but it was random sampling. It wasn't conducted among likely voters, and it was within the margin of error to be over/under a plurality for either side of the issue.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... marijuana/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On single payer you might be right. Latest national poll, this one of likely voters, showed just over 50% supported single payer, still within the margin of error to be a plurality either for or against.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/22 ... poll-finds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No disagreement on social security. I would say on those other 3 issues America is pretty equally divided.

Ok...majority of Americans.....

[SuperHornet]

Huh? Why wasn't the veto over-ridden?

GOP has a majority, but not a "veto majority." The Constitution requires a 2/3 re-vote in BOTH HOUSES (starting in the House in which the bill originated) to override a veto. The GOP had a basic majority, but needed cross-over help. They may have gotten SOME, but clearly not enough.

They did what the had to do philosophically, but it just didn't work out. They can always bring it up again after the 2016 election....