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The $5 million number is what got me. He makes $10 mil a year???
How is ever going to survive? Maybe he can sit down and right a book about the struggles of these next 6 months.
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If only elected officials were held to the same standard.
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The REAL take on Williams.......

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Ahem.

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Reagan lied about liberating Buchenwald while he was a movie set soldier in WWII.
And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
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BDKJMU wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Reagan lied about liberating Buchenwald while he was a movie set soldier in WWII.
And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
Meh. It was Buchenwald instead of Auschwitz.

Not quite the same as claiming you yourself liberated a camp while you were back in California. :coffee:
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Yeah BDK... there's lyin, and then there's lyin. Totally different.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:The REAL take on Williams.......

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Ahem.

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If you're talking about GW Bush, Cap, there has never been any evidence that he lied. Evidence that he was wrong about some things? Yes. Evidence that he lied? No.
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So does he fill the new opening over at 60 Minutes?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:If only elected officials were held to the same standard.
Yep.

"Forget Brian Williams, it’s Hillary Clinton’s lie that matters

.....In March 2008, giving a foreign policy speech on Iraq about her days as first lady and a trip to Tuzla, Bosnia, she delivered an unbelievable tale.

“I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

So, picture that: Chopper lands, sniper bullets pinging and zinging everywhere, she and her comrades sprinting across the tarmac, perhaps zigzagging to throw off the sharpshooter.

But it didn’t happen. None of it. Right after the speech, she was asked about the sniper fire. “There was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to run to our cars. Now, that is what happened,” she lied.

A week later, she changed her whole story, telling the Philadelphia Daily News editorial board that she “misspoke.” Yes, she said that word. When she said snipers had fired at her, when really a little girl had given her a poem, that was her just “misspeaking.”

The next day, she told reporters: “So I made a mistake. That happens. It shows I’m human, which for some people is a revelation.” Ha ha, oh, she’s so lovely — and human.

Oh, and an incredible liar, a valor thief, a fabulist. And dangerous...."

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BDKJMU wrote:
"Forget Brian Williams, it’s Hillary Clinton’s lie that matters

.....In March 2008, giving a foreign policy speech on Iraq about her days as first lady and a trip to Tuzla, Bosnia, she delivered an unbelievable tale.

“I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

So, picture that: Chopper lands, sniper bullets pinging and zinging everywhere, she and her comrades sprinting across the tarmac, perhaps zigzagging to throw off the sharpshooter.
Hillary Clinton's arrival in Bosnia.

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And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
Obama lies about a lot of things. I don't think there has ever been any "smoking gun" evidence that George W. Bush actually lied about anything as opposed to being mistaken. We have that with Obama. The latest is David Axelrod reporting in his book that Obama lied about his position on homosexual marriage during the 2008 campaign. And we know he lied about more important things too. Like the "if you like your health insurance you can keep it" thing with the Affordable Care Act.

The guy is a lying sack of shit. He will lie reflexively any time he sees it as being to his advantage to lie. Won't hesitate at all.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
Obama lies about a lot of things. I don't think there has ever been any "smoking gun" evidence that George W. Bush actually lied about anything as opposed to being mistaken. We have that with Obama. The latest is David Axelrod reporting in his book that Obama lied about his position on homosexual marriage during the 2008 campaign. And we know he lied about more important things too. Like the "if you like your health insurance you can keep it" thing with the Affordable Care Act.

The guy is a lying sack of ****. He will lie reflexively any time he sees it as being to his advantage to lie. Won't hesitate at all.

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Oops…Bill O joins the fun. :lol:
But Mother Jones editors David Corn and Daniel Schulman report that Bill's claims aren't supported by any facts, and are disputed by his ex-coworkers.

It started simply, with a one-line mention in a memoir that O'Reilly had worked "on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands." But by the time the Boston Marathon bombing happened in 2013, he was regaling Fox viewers with visceral details of being in the shit:

I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important.
The problem with that account, Corn and Schulman say, is O'Reilly had just managed to get into Buenos Aires before the quick war between Argentina and Great Britain ended. That didn't leave him much time to get downrange where the action was, across 1,200 miles of ocean. And it didn't make much sense to O'Reilly's CBS colleagues at the time:

American reporters were not on the ground in this distant war zone. "Nobody got to the war zone during the Falklands war," Susan Zirinsky, a longtime CBS News producer who helped manage the network's coverage of the war from Buenos Aires, tells Mother Jones. She does not remember what O'Reilly did during his time in Argentina. But she notes that the military junta kept US reporters from reaching the islands: "You weren't allowed on by the Argentinians. No CBS person got there."

That's how Bob Schieffer, who was CBS News' lead correspondent covering the Falklands war, recalls it: "Nobody from CBS got to the Falklands. I came close. We'd been trying to get somebody down there. It was impossible." He notes that NBC News reporter Robin Lloyd was the only American network correspondent to reach the islands. "I remember because I got my butt scooped on that," Schieffer says. "He got out there and we were all trying to get there." (Lloyd tells Mother Jones that he managed to convince the Argentine military to let him visit Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, but he spent only a day there—and this was weeks before the British forces arrived and the fighting began.)

Schieffer adds, "For us, you were a thousand miles from where the fighting was. So we had some great meals."
The Mother Jones editors note that O'Reilly did witness a street protest that turned violent in the streets of the Argentine capital, but that he split the scene after losing out to Schieffer for the marquee coverage. "I got the hell out of Argentina fast, landed in Miami, and raised a major ruckus at the CBS offices there," O'Reilly wrote in his memoir.
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kalm wrote:Oops…Bill O joins the fun. :lol:
But Mother Jones editors David Corn and Daniel Schulman report that Bill's claims aren't supported by any facts, and are disputed by his ex-coworkers.

It started simply, with a one-line mention in a memoir that O'Reilly had worked "on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands." But by the time the Boston Marathon bombing happened in 2013, he was regaling Fox viewers with visceral details of being in the ****:

I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important.
The problem with that account, Corn and Schulman say, is O'Reilly had just managed to get into Buenos Aires before the quick war between Argentina and Great Britain ended. That didn't leave him much time to get downrange where the action was, across 1,200 miles of ocean. And it didn't make much sense to O'Reilly's CBS colleagues at the time:

American reporters were not on the ground in this distant war zone. "Nobody got to the war zone during the Falklands war," Susan Zirinsky, a longtime CBS News producer who helped manage the network's coverage of the war from Buenos Aires, tells Mother Jones. She does not remember what O'Reilly did during his time in Argentina. But she notes that the military junta kept US reporters from reaching the islands: "You weren't allowed on by the Argentinians. No CBS person got there."

That's how Bob Schieffer, who was CBS News' lead correspondent covering the Falklands war, recalls it: "Nobody from CBS got to the Falklands. I came close. We'd been trying to get somebody down there. It was impossible." He notes that NBC News reporter Robin Lloyd was the only American network correspondent to reach the islands. "I remember because I got my butt scooped on that," Schieffer says. "He got out there and we were all trying to get there." (Lloyd tells Mother Jones that he managed to convince the Argentine military to let him visit Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, but he spent only a day there—and this was weeks before the British forces arrived and the fighting began.)

Schieffer adds, "For us, you were a thousand miles from where the fighting was. So we had some great meals."
The Mother Jones editors note that O'Reilly did witness a street protest that turned violent in the streets of the Argentine capital, but that he split the scene after losing out to Schieffer for the marquee coverage. "I got the hell out of Argentina fast, landed in Miami, and raised a major ruckus at the CBS offices there," O'Reilly wrote in his memoir.
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a) there was no war zone in Argentina

b) no American reporters were on the Falklands

just like uncle CID says, there's lyin' and there's lyin'...
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Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
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But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
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kalm wrote:Oops…Bill O joins the fun. :lol:
But Mother Jones editors David Corn and Daniel Schulman report that Bill's claims aren't supported by any facts, and are disputed by his ex-coworkers.

It started simply, with a one-line mention in a memoir that O'Reilly had worked "on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands." But by the time the Boston Marathon bombing happened in 2013, he was regaling Fox viewers with visceral details of being in the shit:

I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important.
The problem with that account, Corn and Schulman say, is O'Reilly had just managed to get into Buenos Aires before the quick war between Argentina and Great Britain ended. That didn't leave him much time to get downrange where the action was, across 1,200 miles of ocean. And it didn't make much sense to O'Reilly's CBS colleagues at the time:

American reporters were not on the ground in this distant war zone. "Nobody got to the war zone during the Falklands war," Susan Zirinsky, a longtime CBS News producer who helped manage the network's coverage of the war from Buenos Aires, tells Mother Jones. She does not remember what O'Reilly did during his time in Argentina. But she notes that the military junta kept US reporters from reaching the islands: "You weren't allowed on by the Argentinians. No CBS person got there."

That's how Bob Schieffer, who was CBS News' lead correspondent covering the Falklands war, recalls it: "Nobody from CBS got to the Falklands. I came close. We'd been trying to get somebody down there. It was impossible." He notes that NBC News reporter Robin Lloyd was the only American network correspondent to reach the islands. "I remember because I got my butt scooped on that," Schieffer says. "He got out there and we were all trying to get there." (Lloyd tells Mother Jones that he managed to convince the Argentine military to let him visit Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, but he spent only a day there—and this was weeks before the British forces arrived and the fighting began.)

Schieffer adds, "For us, you were a thousand miles from where the fighting was. So we had some great meals."
The Mother Jones editors note that O'Reilly did witness a street protest that turned violent in the streets of the Argentine capital, but that he split the scene after losing out to Schieffer for the marquee coverage. "I got the hell out of Argentina fast, landed in Miami, and raised a major ruckus at the CBS offices there," O'Reilly wrote in his memoir.
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Fox News Program Managers have already stated:
Bill O'reilly is an "entertainer" and his show is not a News Show

He is free to make up any story he wants - and he pretty much does every segment...

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
Meh. It was Buchenwald instead of Auschwitz.

Not quite the same as claiming you yourself liberated a camp while you were back in California. :coffee:
Reagan was a Democrat in those days, no wonder. :lol:

In 1962 he switched to lying as a Republican.
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Oops... :lol:

Ex-NBC Bureau Chief Backs Up O’Reilly’s Account of Falklands War Riot
Two former CBS reporters have strongly disputed Bill O’Reilly‘s accounts of what happened one night when they covered a riot in Buenos Aires, but on The Factor tonight, O’Reilly brought on a former NBC News bureau chief who backed up his story.

Don Browne was the NBC News Miami bureau chief at the time, and he oversaw the network’s Falklands coverage. And Browne told O’Reilly his account was accurate. As opposed to some of the other accounts, which have to some extent downplayed the danger, Browne said the situation “got progressively more intense” and there were demonstrations in Buenos Aires every day.

RELATED: Dan Rather in 1982 CBS Report: TV Crew Members ‘Knocked to the Ground’ in Riots Where O’Reilly Was

Both O’Reilly and Browne recalled a “very intense situation where people got hurt” and how “this was an extremely violent and volatile situation” where reporters were in danger.

O’Reilly also spoke with Mediaite’s own Joe Concha, who wrote a column this week questioning the motivations of O’Reilly’s attackers. Concha told O’Reilly that Mother Jones is in the business of throwing red meat to progressives, and beyond that, the story isn’t making much headway anyway.
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Baldy wrote:Oops... :lol:

Ex-NBC Bureau Chief Backs Up O’Reilly’s Account of Falklands War Riot
Two former CBS reporters have strongly disputed Bill O’Reilly‘s accounts of what happened one night when they covered a riot in Buenos Aires, but on The Factor tonight, O’Reilly brought on a former NBC News bureau chief who backed up his story.

Don Browne was the NBC News Miami bureau chief at the time, and he oversaw the network’s Falklands coverage. And Browne told O’Reilly his account was accurate. As opposed to some of the other accounts, which have to some extent downplayed the danger, Browne said the situation “got progressively more intense” and there were demonstrations in Buenos Aires every day.

RELATED: Dan Rather in 1982 CBS Report: TV Crew Members ‘Knocked to the Ground’ in Riots Where O’Reilly Was

Both O’Reilly and Browne recalled a “very intense situation where people got hurt” and how “this was an extremely violent and volatile situation” where reporters were in danger.

O’Reilly also spoke with Mediaite’s own Joe Concha, who wrote a column this week questioning the motivations of O’Reilly’s attackers. Concha told O’Reilly that Mother Jones is in the business of throwing red meat to progressives, and beyond that, the story isn’t making much headway anyway.
:oops:
O'reilly claimed he was in a "combat situation" a "war zone" :lol:

At least Williams had the grace to apologize. :lol:

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Who is Brian Williams :?
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kalm wrote:
O'reilly claimed he was in a "combat situation" a "war zone" :lol:

At least Williams had the grace to apologize. :lol:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ll-oreilly" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hmmm...whom to believe. :?

A left of center website headed by an actual journalist or a story written by a hitman from a radical far left-wing progtard repository....

Decisions, decisions. :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
O'reilly claimed he was in a "combat situation" a "war zone" :lol:

At least Williams had the grace to apologize. :lol:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ll-oreilly" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hmmm...whom to believe. :?

A left of center website headed by an actual journalist or a story written by a hitman from a radical far left-wing progtard repository....

Decisions, decisions. :lol:
Or the other 6 journalists and cameramen that were there and refute O'Reiily's claim. :nod:

You may not like Corn, but he's a bonafide journalist. Laura Ingraham used to have him on her show all the time.

Oh, and Mediaite is left of center... :lol:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
And Obama lied about his uncle liberating Auschwitz..
Obama lies about a lot of things. I don't think there has ever been any "smoking gun" evidence that George W. Bush actually lied about anything as opposed to being mistaken. We have that with Obama. The latest is David Axelrod reporting in his book that Obama lied about his position on homosexual marriage during the 2008 campaign. And we know he lied about more important things too. Like the "if you like your health insurance you can keep it" thing with the Affordable Care Act.

The guy is a lying sack of ****. He will lie reflexively any time he sees it as being to his advantage to lie. Won't hesitate at all.
So full of racist hate under the thin veneer of rationality..... it must be tough every day to be you.... poor bastard... :ohno:
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
O'reilly claimed he was in a "combat situation" a "war zone" :lol:

At least Williams had the grace to apologize. :lol:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ll-oreilly" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hmmm...whom to believe. :?

A left of center website headed by an actual journalist or a story written by a hitman from a radical far left-wing progtard repository....

Decisions, decisions. :lol:
:lol: Look over there!

Unfortunately, Balsac, all the deflect and divert in the world can't change the two lies that Billy boy told right in front of god and everybody on tape:

a) He was in a war zone in Argentina

b) He was in the Falklands



The unfortunate facts are that:

a) there was no war zone in Argentina so he couldn't have been in a war zone in Argentina, and

b) there were no American reporters in the Falklands....

so sad... :cry:

O'reilly is such a pussy that even Super Honet could whup his azz... :ohno:
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