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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Touché. Well said, Tom.
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that during the Billy Crystal/Joe Piscapo/Norm MacDonald years there wasn't much to write home about (although I think that was the same basic timeframe as Dana Carvey/Mike Myers who were funny as fuck), and I didn't watch much.....but Will Ferrell/Tina Fey/Jimmy Fallon/Bill Hader/Amy Poehler/Jason Sudakeis are some of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet.
Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
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travelinman67 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:I'm curious: How can one, on one hand, claim to "have stopped watching SNL 20 years ago", while on the OTHER hand make a blanket statement like "the current writers are humorless". How would you KNOW if you don't watch it?

Is every skit a home run? No...but if you watch some of the guys/ladies who came out of that show in the mid-late 2000's and don't find them funny then you truly do NOT have a sense of humor any more.
I stop in every once in a while...watch a few sketches. I'm not knocking the cast...I'm critical of the writing. I "get" the jokes...they're just not that humorous. Occasionally they have talented prople on WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WRITING...AND IT SHOWS! Justin Timberlake has contributed several of the better recent ideas.

Look back at the original characters...Chase, Belushi, Radner, Curtain. One of my faves was Emily Litella's editorial rants...
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Busting schoolchildren
Eagle rights
Making Puerto Rico a steak

Shit was pure.

And BTW Commienez...my name calling was in response to YOUR personal attack...which was absent of any comment or criticism of SNL. Just like now. Other than saying, "They're funny...you just don't have a sense of humor." What is your position on the status of the show's production/development in particular as it pertains to political bias; the original topic of this thread.

And see if you're able to comment absent a personal attack.
Why do you continue with personal attacks? I didn't attack you (unless you are thin-skinned and can't take a joke.) This is CS and the Internet. If you can't take a joke, then you don't belong. :twocents: :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
I stop in every once in a while...watch a few sketches. I'm not knocking the cast...I'm critical of the writing. I "get" the jokes...they're just not that humorous. Occasionally they have talented prople on WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WRITING...AND IT SHOWS! Justin Timberlake has contributed several of the better recent ideas.

Look back at the original characters...Chase, Belushi, Radner, Curtain. One of my faves was Emily Litella's editorial rants...
Violins on TV
Busting schoolchildren
Eagle rights
Making Puerto Rico a steak

Shit was pure.

And BTW Commienez...my name calling was in response to YOUR personal attack...which was absent of any comment or criticism of SNL. Just like now. Other than saying, "They're funny...you just don't have a sense of humor." What is your position on the status of the show's production/development in particular as it pertains to political bias; the original topic of this thread.

And see if you're able to comment absent a personal attack.
Ibanez took a light hearted and fair shot at you. If you had ANY sense of self deprecation you would have owned it or even enjoyed it.
Exactly. :thumb:
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Pwns wrote:I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this, but you could argue that this has to do with the fact that comedy is about one-liners and not nuance. Conservative viewpoints often make less sense with a cursory, superficial look at an issue and trying to put opinion in the form of satire is generally harder for conservatives.

In my opinion the easiest targets on the left for satire are feminists and racial justice types. I think we all know you are just begging for a s***storm if you go down that road, though.

Ultimately, the agenda of any media is to get eyes and ears so they can make money. That's the important thing to keep in mind.
I thought liberals were suppose to own nuance. :?
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that during the Billy Crystal/Joe Piscapo/Norm MacDonald years there wasn't much to write home about (although I think that was the same basic timeframe as Dana Carvey/Mike Myers who were funny as ****), and I didn't watch much.....but Will Ferrell/Tina Fey/Jimmy Fallon/Bill Hader/Amy Poehler/Jason Sudakeis are some of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet.
Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
Jimmy's not as straight up funny as Will and Tina, but he's found his niche on the Tonight Show, it's perfect for him. He's a nice guy, or at least comes across as a nice everyguy, and his musical comedy is where he's really funny. He's perfect for that show. Will Ferrell is far funnier than Fallon, but he wouldn't work out on a show like the Tonight Show - that wouldn't be a fit.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
Jimmy's not as straight up funny as Will and Tina, but he's found his niche on the Tonight Show, it's perfect for him. He's a nice guy, or at least comes across as a nice everyguy, and his musical comedy is where he's really funny. He's perfect for that show. Will Ferrell is far funnier than Fallon, but he wouldn't work out on a show like the Tonight Show - that wouldn't be a fit.
Ferrell on SNL was good. I feel he's becoming a bit of a joke. Anyone see Anchorman 2? It was atrocious. It was weird.
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Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Jimmy's not as straight up funny as Will and Tina, but he's found his niche on the Tonight Show, it's perfect for him. He's a nice guy, or at least comes across as a nice everyguy, and his musical comedy is where he's really funny. He's perfect for that show. Will Ferrell is far funnier than Fallon, but he wouldn't work out on a show like the Tonight Show - that wouldn't be a fit.
Ferrell on SNL was good. I feel he's becoming a bit of a joke. Anyone see Anchorman 2? It was atrocious. It was weird.
Oh, for fucks sake. It was VINTAGE Will Ferrell....he hasn't changed a bit.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Ferrell on SNL was good. I feel he's becoming a bit of a joke. Anyone see Anchorman 2? It was atrocious. It was weird.
Oh, for fucks sake. It was VINTAGE Will Ferrell....he hasn't changed a bit.
What was? He role as Trebek on Sunday? I thought that was great. I always enjoyed the Jeopardy parody's. I was talking more about him now, in his movies.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Ferrell on SNL was good. I feel he's becoming a bit of a joke. Anyone see Anchorman 2? It was atrocious. It was weird.
Oh, for **** sake. It was VINTAGE Will Ferrell....he hasn't changed a bit.
Agreed, Ferrell is still Ferrell, either you like him or you don't, and let's be honest, if you don't like Ferrell it's really more of a problem for you. Just saying.
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GannonFan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh, for **** sake. It was VINTAGE Will Ferrell....he hasn't changed a bit.
Agreed, Ferrell is still Ferrell, either you like him or you don't, and let's be honest, if you don't like Ferrell it's really more of a problem for you. Just saying.
:lol: Oh, so it's my fault I don't like his recent movies? :lol: :lol: Maybe. But you have to look at his body of work, it's gone downhill. He was good, I really enjoyed Anchorman, Talladega Nights, The Campaign, The Other Guys, etc..

Maybe I was just disappointed with Semi-Pro, Step Brothers, AM2, and Casa de mi Padre. Did you see Everything Must Go? It was very dramatic and a good film, I thought.
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:Negative. Lorne Michaels is a narrow-minded progressive and hires only narrow-minded uber lib hateful writers under a misperception that being "hip" is synonymous with liberalism.

Look at the other projects he produces...they're ALL THE SAME. Poor writing, hateful political underpinnings, anchored by Mametish rapid-fire dialogue. No thought, no value.

I stopped watching SNL 20 years ago when the writing ceased being humorous.
So you liked it when Franken was writing?
Writing was good, his participation in the skits was not funny.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that during the Billy Crystal/Joe Piscapo/Norm MacDonald years there wasn't much to write home about (although I think that was the same basic timeframe as Dana Carvey/Mike Myers who were funny as fuck), and I didn't watch much.....but Will Ferrell/Tina Fey/Jimmy Fallon/Bill Hader/Amy Poehler/Jason Sudakeis are some of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet.
Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
Z, Billy Crystal was only on for one year. Joe Piscapo was during the early 80s and Norm MacDonald was in the 90s.

There was literally no overlap with any of them. Or did you mean that each of the seasons they were on individually was bad? :?
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Vidav wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
Z, Billy Crystal was only on for one year. Joe Piscapo was during the early 80s and Norm MacDonald was in the 90s.

There was literally no overlap with any of them. Or did you mean that each of the seasons they were on individually was bad? :?
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Vidav wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Will and Tina were good. So was Jason. But I never liked Jimmy Fallon. I didn't see the appeal. :twocents:
Z, Billy Crystal was only on for one year. Joe Piscapo was during the early 80s and Norm MacDonald was in the 90s.

There was literally no overlap with any of them. Or did you mean that each of the seasons they were on individually was bad? :?
Honestly, I didn't check. There was about a 15 year period where I didn't watch--except maybe sporadically. I went and looked later and saw some people that I had NO idea had ever been on that show....and many that I'd never heard of. I'll stipulate to the fact that it has been humorless at times, but honestly, the past 6-10 years have been some of the funniest EVER. :nod: :nod:
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Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, Ferrell is still Ferrell, either you like him or you don't, and let's be honest, if you don't like Ferrell it's really more of a problem for you. Just saying.
:lol: Oh, so it's my fault I don't like his recent movies? :lol: :lol: Maybe. But you have to look at his body of work, it's gone downhill. He was good, I really enjoyed Anchorman, Talladega Nights, The Campaign, The Other Guys, etc..

Maybe I was just disappointed with Semi-Pro, Step Brothers, AM2, and Casa de mi Padre. Did you see Everything Must Go? It was very dramatic and a good film, I thought.
The Campaign and The Other Guys are two of his newer ones. Both newer than Step brothers OR Semi Pro.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :lol: Oh, so it's my fault I don't like his recent movies? :lol: :lol: Maybe. But you have to look at his body of work, it's gone downhill. He was good, I really enjoyed Anchorman, Talladega Nights, The Campaign, The Other Guys, etc..

Maybe I was just disappointed with Semi-Pro, Step Brothers, AM2, and Casa de mi Padre. Did you see Everything Must Go? It was very dramatic and a good film, I thought.
The Campaign and The Other Guys are two of his newer ones. Both newer than Step brothers OR Semi Pro.
yeah, I went back and looked at the dates.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Z, Billy Crystal was only on for one year. Joe Piscapo was during the early 80s and Norm MacDonald was in the 90s.

There was literally no overlap with any of them. Or did you mean that each of the seasons they were on individually was bad? :?
Honestly, I didn't check. There was about a 15 year period where I didn't watch--except maybe sporadically. I went and looked later and saw some people that I had NO idea had ever been on that show....and many that I'd never heard of. I'll stipulate to the fact that it has been humorless at times, but honestly, the past 6-10 years have been some of the funniest EVER. :nod: :nod:
True. I catch a clip every now and then but I can't tell you the last time I saw a full episode. Comedy Central used to air them in the mid 90s.
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I thought the episode that was Justin Timberlake's 5th time hosting was good, especially the opening part with the "5 timers club".

This last episode's Jeopardy skit was classic.

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CID1990 wrote:I thought the episode that was Justin Timberlake's 5th time hosting was good, especially the opening part with the "5 timers club".

This last episode's Jeopardy skit was classic.

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I literally haven't watched Saturday Night Live for decades until the recent spate of specials around Valentine's Day and the 40th Anniversary. Some good, some bad. I heartily enjoyed many of the old clips they showed, from early on when I used to watch.

My guess as to why writers lampoon conservatives more than liberals/progressives is that is what the writers find funniest. Liberalism generally plays better in sound bites than conservatism imo, so it is more natural to lampoon that which requires more thought than less thought.

I agree with CID & Ibanez on the Jeopardy skit. Really funny.
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LeadBolt wrote:I literally haven't watched Saturday Night Live for decades until the recent spate of specials around Valentine's Day and the 40th Anniversary. Some good, some bad. I heartily enjoyed many of the old clips they showed, from early on when I used to watch.

My guess as to why writers lampoon conservatives more than liberals/progressives is that is what the writers find funniest. Liberalism generally plays better in sound bites than conservatism imo, so it is more natural to lampoon that which requires more thought than less thought.

I agree with CID & Ibanez on the Jeopardy skit. Really funny.
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Found this one...

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travelinman67 wrote:Negative. Lorne Michaels is a narrow-minded progressive and hires only narrow-minded uber lib hateful writers under a misperception that being "hip" is synonymous with liberalism.

Look at the other projects he produces...they're ALL THE SAME. Poor writing, hateful political underpinnings, anchored by Mametish rapid-fire dialogue. No thought, no value.

I stopped watching SNL 20 years ago when the writing ceased being humorous.
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SNL Conservative cast member not allowed to sit with other show alum during reunion. Placed in "overflow" room alone...

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travelinman67 wrote:SNL Conservative cast member not allowed to sit with other show alum during reunion. Placed in "overflow" room alone...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/s ... cal-775080

Fucking bigot shouldn't have been invited back. :thumbdown:
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