What a Dope

[travelinman67]

Ibanez, you owe me 1.5 hours at $380

Cash only

[Ibanez]

Ibanez, you owe me 1.5 hours at $380

Cash only

Says the guy that thinks drug use is necessary for public office. You're off your rocker, bud. Keep digging a hole. Nobody is going to back you up on some crazy theory like that.

C'mon, internet tough guy. Let's hear what mature, witty retort you have.

[HI54UNI]

Tman -

have you ever been elected to public office?

[Ibanez]

Tman -

have you ever been elected to public office?

I think he's said he's been approached in the past but never have.

I might be thinking of someone else, though.

[travelinman67]

Tman -

have you ever been elected to public office?

I think he's said he's been approached in the past but never have.

I might be thinking of someone else, though.

Twice, seriously. Took a pass. I'm a kingmaker. Persuaded three to run for office, set up, managed the campaigns for one DA, two city councilmen, worked on campaigns (organizer) for one sheriff, one state assemblyman....have only lost one race.

Don't forget...I was a labor leader in my youth. Politics was a matter of survival.


I'll try to be gentle, Ib...

...you know nothing.



You're up to 1.75 hours

[93henfan]

I didn't read the whole thread, but Hillary will wipe her big, fat, hairy taint with Jeb Bush in 2016 if he wins the GOP nomination. Regardless of his hypocrasy, he's doomed by his last name. America won't gamble on another Bush mistake.

[kalm]

I think he's said he's been approached in the past but never have.

I might be thinking of someone else, though.

Twice, seriously. Took a pass. I'm a kingmaker. Persuaded three to run for office, set up, managed the campaigns for one DA, two city councilmen, w

orked on campaigns (organizer) for one sheriff, one state assemblyman....have only lost one race.

Don't forget...I was a labor leader in my youth. Politics was a matter of survival.


I'll try to be gentle, Ib...

...you know nothing.



You're up to 1.75 hours

You have got to be the dumbest motherfucker on this board.

[kalm]

Another dumbass "limited government" Republican.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ted-cruz-smoked-marijuana-teen-wants-jail-others-doing-same

[DSUrocks07]

Funny, you never mentioned anything about being POTUS.

You said


I shouldn't be entrusted to make decisions? Might need to make quite a few people in my life aware of that.


Yeah, the people that are able the follow laws and not do illegal drugs, have no police record, never been in handcuffs, etc... those are the people that shouldn't be trusted.


Do you believe you have the wisdom and temperament to be president?

Yes. Because I know that I don't know. I'd surround myself with great minds (not political operatives), have a system to identify problems, and a method for expeditiously resolving the problem which included bringing ALL players to the table with one caveat: The problem gets resolved. Obstructionists would lose their seat at the table.

Ironic. I remember Herman Cain being ridiculously criticized by the right for suggesting that under his presidency he would do the same thing.

[travelinman67]

Sad that Kalm, Ib have resorted back to full time trolls.

No discussion, no debate, no substance...dropping in solely to take pot shots and disrupt threads.

SMFH

[travelinman67]

Twice, seriously. Took a pass. I'm a kingmaker. Persuaded three to run for office, set up, managed the campaigns for one DA, two city councilmen, w

orked on campaigns (organizer) for one sheriff, one state assemblyman....have only lost one race.

Don't forget...I was a labor leader in my youth. Politics was a matter of survival.


I'll try to be gentle, Ib...

...you know nothing.



You're up to 1.75 hours

You have got to be the dumbest motherfucker on this board.

Why? Because I succeeded?

I guess being an internet troll in a backwater town, while living off your parents wealth is the new definition of wisdom?

[kalm]

You have got to be the dumbest motherfucker on this board.

Why? Because I succeeded?

I guess being an internet troll in a backwater town, while living off your parents wealth is the new definition of wisdom?

Why? Why? Because I've been reading your posts.

And FTR, I live off of my wife's wealth!

[HI54UNI]

I think he's said he's been approached in the past but never have.

I might be thinking of someone else, though.

Twice, seriously. Took a pass. I'm a kingmaker. Persuaded three to run for office, set up, managed the campaigns for one DA, two city councilmen, worked on campaigns (organizer) for one sheriff, one state assemblyman....have only lost one race.

Don't forget...I was a labor leader in my youth. Politics was a matter of survival.


I'll try to be gentle, Ib...

...you know nothing.



You're up to 1.75 hours

So you've never had the balls to put your name on the ballot. You've never had the balls to serve and have to answer to your constituents. I'm 2-0 in elections with my name on the ballot. Let me know when you reach that level and we can talk about qualifications for public office.

[clenz]

Tman some of us younger folks had it drilled in our heads in school that recreational drugs (including pot) were dangerous and bad for your health. A lot of us avoided it out of fear, whether that fear was justified or not.

That doesn't mean we obey orders uquestioningly or are a bunch of namby pamby goody tooshoes. Most of us took our first drink well before 21, I can tell you that.

I simply never gave two fucks about trying weed - or any drug. I didn't drink my first beer until I got to college.

High school I simply wasn't about to put my athletic career in jeopardy, in anyway. I watched way too many kids get busted for booze and get suspended or booted from their teams. I wasn't about that. I played 4 sports all 4 years in high school. I picked up 14 school letters in those 4 years (4 T&F, 4 baseball, 3 football, 3 basketball). Was recruited to play football, baseball and throw the shot put in college. I wasn't about to give any coach any reason to think twice about reasons to not offer/want me. I went to a school of 110...small school kid in the state of Iowa...that's reason enough to not get offers regardless what kind of numbers/stats you put up.

Does that fall under "fear"? Sure. I guess. It had nothing to do with thinking I'd become a burnout, die from some crazy disease, etc... though.

In my anecdotal experience, most post heads I've come across are the stereotypical burn out fuck bags that I wouldn't trust to watch my lawn grow.....since anecdotal evidence is 100% accurate.

I'm glad the company I work for doesn't hold the fact I don't break federal laws against me. I wouldn't be a manager and be in charge of my branch.

Alas, it doesn't matter. tman has his mind made up that only pot smokers are upstanding, smart and productive members of society....

[travelinman67]

Alas, it doesn't matter. tman has his mind made up that only pot smokers are upstanding, smart and productive members of society....

Never said that.

Did say avoidance of normal youthful experimentation was indicative of an underlying psychological problem.

I would not trust a lifelong abstainer with the power to make decisions effecting millions.

Sorry Clenz, you lost my vote.

BTW, how's your anger management coming along?

[travelinman67]

Twice, seriously. Took a pass. I'm a kingmaker. Persuaded three to run for office, set up, managed the campaigns for one DA, two city councilmen, worked on campaigns (organizer) for one sheriff, one state assemblyman....have only lost one race.

Don't forget...I was a labor leader in my youth. Politics was a matter of survival.


I'll try to be gentle, Ib...

...you know nothing.



You're up to 1.75 hours

So you've never had the balls to put your name on the ballot. You've never had the balls to serve and have to answer to your constituents. I'm 2-0 in elections with my name on the ballot. Let me know when you reach that level and we can talk about qualifications for public office.

Wow!!

This really brought them out of the woodwork....

HI5...

...Kingmakers accomplish (exponentially) more than elected officials.


My decision did not arise from fear, rather from common sense.

I don't need to stroke an ego with a title.

[HI54UNI]

So you've never had the balls to put your name on the ballot. You've never had the balls to serve and have to answer to your constituents. I'm 2-0 in elections with my name on the ballot. Let me know when you reach that level and we can talk about qualifications for public office.

Wow!!

This really brought them out of the woodwork....

HI5...

...Kingmakers accomplish (exponentially) more than elected officials.


My decision did not arise from fear, rather from common sense.

I don't need to stroke an ego with a title.

Right.

i didn't need a kingmaker to make me. I did it myself. And please do tell how a kingmaker can accomplish more than the elected official.

And if you knew me you would know that ego had nothing to do with it. If anything I am too modest about my involvement in issues and the accomplishments I've been involved in.

Let me know when you grow a pair and put your name on the ballot.

[D1B]

Wow!!

This really brought them out of the woodwork....

HI5...

...Kingmakers accomplish (exponentially) more than elected officials.


My decision did not arise from fear, rather from common sense.

I don't need to stroke an ego with a title.

Right.

i didn't need a kingmaker to make me. I did it myself. And please do tell how a kingmaker can accomplish more than the elected official.

And if you knew me you would know that ego had nothing to do with it. If anything I am too modest about my involvement in issues and the accomplishments I've been involved in.

Let me know when you grow a pair and put your name on the ballot.

Nice work, Fiver.

You nailed it - Tman is a paper tiger.

BTW, here's a 2013 pic of Tman shortly after his "king" lost his Sacramento School Board seat to a Hispanic woman.



He flipped out and started taking hostages at the Stockton Dairy Queen. Said he would release em only if a recount proved beneficial to his king. It didn't - still lost 213-52.

Tman's "King"



Stuart White

[D1B]

Tman's war room:



Left to Right: BDCUNT, Baldy, Tman

[travelinman67]

Wow!!

This really brought them out of the woodwork....

HI5...

...Kingmakers accomplish (exponentially) more than elected officials.


My decision did not arise from fear, rather from common sense.

I don't need to stroke an ego with a title.

Right.

i didn't need a kingmaker to make me. I did it myself. And please do tell how a kingmaker can accomplish more than the elected official.

And if you knew me you would know that ego had nothing to do with it. If anything I am too modest about my involvement in issues and the accomplishments I've been involved in.

Let me know when you grow a pair and put your name on the ballot.

What is it with you and balls?

Did getting elected prove you had balls?



Re:kingmaking

By age 30, I had open door 24/7 access to councilmen, district attorneys, county sheriffs, judges, state assemblymembers...who welcomed me into their homes, listened to me and acted on my concern/advice. I directly affected policy, development, and labor decisions in a metropolitan community of two million.

Or...I could have sat on a board voting on contracts and listening to citizens bitch about their rates.

Figure it out.

[D1B]

Right.

i didn't need a kingmaker to make me. I did it myself. And please do tell how a kingmaker can accomplish more than the elected official.

And if you knew me you would know that ego had nothing to do with it. If anything I am too modest about my involvement in issues and the accomplishments I've been involved in.

Let me know when you grow a pair and put your name on the ballot.

What is it with you and balls?

Did getting elected prove you had balls?



Re:kingmaking

By age 30, I had open door 24/7 access to councilmen, district attorneys, county sheriffs, judges, state assemblymembers...who welcomed me into their homes, listened to me and acted on my concern/advice. I directly affected policy, development, and labor decisions in a metropolitan community of two million.

Or...I could have sat on a board voting on contracts and listening to citizens bitch about their rates.

Figure it out.

He did. Here it is again:

"You are too much of a pussy to get on stage. Or people don't like you and you know it."



"Say, we could save $37 a year if we remove the drinking fountain from the DMV!"

[HI54UNI]

Right.

i didn't need a kingmaker to make me. I did it myself. And please do tell how a kingmaker can accomplish more than the elected official.

And if you knew me you would know that ego had nothing to do with it. If anything I am too modest about my involvement in issues and the accomplishments I've been involved in.

Let me know when you grow a pair and put your name on the ballot.

What is it with you and balls?

Did getting elected prove you had balls?



Re:kingmaking

By age 30, I had open door 24/7 access to councilmen, district attorneys, county sheriffs, judges, state assemblymembers...who welcomed me into their homes, listened to me and acted on my concern/advice. I directly affected policy, development, and labor decisions in a metropolitan community of two million.

Or...I could have sat on a board voting on contracts and listening to citizens bitch about their rates.

Figure it out.

Getting elected didn't prove I had balls. Putting my name on the ballot did.

You hide behind the scenes and talk about access to the elected officials. Big deal. You and how many other people had the same access. Let me know when you want to step up and say "I'm Tman and I'm so fucking smart and awesome you should elect me". Publicly put your name on the positions that you are advocating instead of hiding behind the scenes. Face the reality that people might not agree with you and vote for your opponent and that if you lose it is in a very public and possibly humiliating manner.


Tman's councilmen/judges/sheriff/etc.:

[kalm]

He who attempts to justify, often does not convince.

[D1B]

He who attempts to justify, often does not convince.

Tman.

[travelinman67]

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