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Now this is some serious Liberal crazy talk that gives me wood... :nod:

"They are not the hallowed arbiters of quality promised by their myths. Their traditions mask bloated government money-sucks that consistently underperform. They are centers of nepotism that turn below-average students into average officers. They are indulgences that taxpayers, who fund them, can no longer afford. They’ve outlived their use, and it’s time to shut them down."

"The most compelling and obvious argument is the financial one.
It officially costs about $205,000 to produce a West Point graduate, although a 2003 Government Accountability Office study put the price tag at more than $300,000; officers at the Air Force and Naval academies are minted for $322,000 and $275,000, respectively. According to at least one measurement, that’s about four times as much as it costs to produce an officer through the Reserve Officers’ Training Corps, which trains officers-to-be while they attend civilian colleges."

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Hey now....academy grads will convince you their shit doesn't stink.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Hey now....academy grads will convince you their shit doesn't stink.
This. Midshipmen Marine options were the knuckledraggers at TBS. And the more they tried to knock rings, the more we prior-enlisted, ROTC, and OCC Lt's would isolate and humiliate them.
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I've been familiar with Beauchamps for some time- he touches on some potentially valid points.

But let's don't call him an expert on the matter.... he's pretty much a proven bullshit artist with some minor axes to grind, most likely.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=519" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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CID1990 wrote:I've been familiar with Beauchamps for some time- he touches on some potentially valid points.

But let's don't call him an expert on the matter.... he's pretty much a proven bullshit artist with some minor axes to grind, most likely.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=519" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Actually it was the total douche-ocity of the article that attracted me the most
At no point was I looking for anything other than Left Wing hype (which is my favorite of the hypes)

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93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Hey now....academy grads will convince you their shit doesn't stink.
This. Midshipmen Marine options were the knuckledraggers at TBS. And the more they tried to knock rings, the more we prior-enlisted, ROTC, and OCC Lt's would isolate and humiliate them.
I distinctly remember standing in the wardroom of my ship one morning (I'd just arrived a couple weeks earlier and really didn't know many people) when a newly minted Ensign from the Naval Academy reported aboard as the Gunnery Officer. He came into with a "my shit doesn't stink" attitude and was just CERTAIN that, because he'd graduated from the Naval Academy he was DUE and would RECEIVE the utmost respect from the other officers and enlisted crew. A former Machinists Mate Chief nuke who'd recently gone through OCS and was now a LTJG proceeded to rip him a new one, pretty much in front of the whole wardroom.

The guy wilted like a flower, crawling away with his tail between his legs. In fairly short order he figured out just exactly how (not) important that Academy graduation certificate was to the rest of us, and in time became one of my best friends on the boat and still is to this day. On THAT particular day, however, I thought he was a total douche. And of course, he was ALWAYS jealous that he couldn't sit with us at the Mustangs table in the wardroom to eat with all the cool officers. 8-) 8-)
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AZGrizFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
This. Midshipmen Marine options were the knuckledraggers at TBS. And the more they tried to knock rings, the more we prior-enlisted, ROTC, and OCC Lt's would isolate and humiliate them.
I distinctly remember standing in the wardroom of my ship one morning (I'd just arrived a couple weeks earlier and really didn't know many people) when a newly minted Ensign from the Naval Academy reported aboard as the Gunnery Officer. He came into with a "my shit doesn't stink" attitude and was just CERTAIN that, because he'd graduated from the Naval Academy he was DUE and would RECEIVE the utmost respect from the other officers and enlisted crew. A former Machinists Mate Chief nuke who'd recently gone through OCS and was now a LTJG proceeded to rip him a new one, pretty much in front of the whole wardroom.

The guy wilted like a flower, crawling away with his tail between his legs. In fairly short order he figured out just exactly how (not) important that Academy graduation certificate was to the rest of us, and in time became one of my best friends on the boat and still is to this day. On THAT particular day, however, I thought he was a total douche. And of course, he was ALWAYS jealous that he couldn't sit with us at the Mustangs table in the wardroom to eat with all the cool officers. 8-) 8-)

Way back when you used to live in paradise
I remember having lunch with you - and you didn't actually seem that cool...
You weren't "uncool" if you know what I mean - but cool wouldn't be the first word I'd use to describe you

pretty cool maybe... :geek:
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This thread got gay quick!
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andy7171 wrote:This thread got gay quick!
Just wait til the Coast Guard gets here...
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Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I distinctly remember standing in the wardroom of my ship one morning (I'd just arrived a couple weeks earlier and really didn't know many people) when a newly minted Ensign from the Naval Academy reported aboard as the Gunnery Officer. He came into with a "my shit doesn't stink" attitude and was just CERTAIN that, because he'd graduated from the Naval Academy he was DUE and would RECEIVE the utmost respect from the other officers and enlisted crew. A former Machinists Mate Chief nuke who'd recently gone through OCS and was now a LTJG proceeded to rip him a new one, pretty much in front of the whole wardroom.

The guy wilted like a flower, crawling away with his tail between his legs. In fairly short order he figured out just exactly how (not) important that Academy graduation certificate was to the rest of us, and in time became one of my best friends on the boat and still is to this day. On THAT particular day, however, I thought he was a total douche. And of course, he was ALWAYS jealous that he couldn't sit with us at the Mustangs table in the wardroom to eat with all the cool officers. 8-) 8-)

Way back when you used to live in paradise
I remember having lunch with you - and you didn't actually seem that cool...
You weren't "uncool" if you know what I mean - but cool wouldn't be the first word I'd use to describe you

pretty cool maybe... :geek:
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bandl wrote:
andy7171 wrote:This thread got gay quick!
Just wait til the Coast Guard gets here...
I'm not saying where I work. :oops:
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93henfan wrote:
bandl wrote: Just wait til the Coast Guard gets here...
I'm not saying where I work. :oops:

Hey Sailor. Wanna a six pack of beer?
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93henfan wrote:
bandl wrote: Just wait til the Coast Guard gets here...
I'm not saying where I work. :oops:
Any men's bathroom.
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bandl wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I'm not saying where I work. :oops:
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93henfan wrote:
bandl wrote: Any men's bathroom.
I'm not your mom. OHHHHHH!!!!!!!
You're right, you have bigger tits.
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SHOTS FUCKING FIRED
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Grizalltheway wrote:SHOTS FUCKING FIRED
IN 93's MOUTH!

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bandl wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:SHOTS FUCKING FIRED
IN 93's MOUTH!

THIRST ON THAT, 93!!!
Twat!
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93henfan wrote:
bandl wrote: IN 93's MOUTH!

THIRST ON THAT, 93!!!
Twat!
GUNCH!

I like this thread now. It's going places.
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I say keep the military academies & abolish the faux ones like VMI & Citadel...
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bluehenbillk wrote:I say keep the military academies & abolish the faux ones like VMI & Citadel...
If you get rid of The Citadel where would Dback troll for bait..?
He's allowed to have a meat market too... (right?)
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bandl wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Twat!
GUNCH!

I like this thread now. It's going places.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I've been familiar with Beauchamps for some time- he touches on some potentially valid points.

But let's don't call him an expert on the matter.... he's pretty much a proven bullshit artist with some minor axes to grind, most likely.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=519" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Actually it was the total douche-ocity of the article that attracted me the most
At no point was I looking for anything other than Left Wing hype (which is my favorite of the hypes)

:mrgreen:
well you deftly avoided the "you selectively dislike one liar (muslin thread) and like another (Beauchamp)" trap I laid for you

well played, I guess
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Chizzang wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:I say keep the military academies & abolish the faux ones like VMI & Citadel...
If you get rid of The Citadel where would Dback troll for bait..?
He's allowed to have a meat market too... (right?)
Our gays tend to circulate in the bronzed hunky gay dude population, not the pimply dumpy flappy dumper set Dback lurks in
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
If you get rid of The Citadel where would Dback troll for bait..?
He's allowed to have a meat market too... (right?)
Our gays tend to circulate in the bronzed hunky gay dude population, not the pimply dumpy flappy dumper set Dback lurks in

There are chasers that like the dumpy set. And the pimples have cleared up, but thanks for reminding me of that incident, jackass

Oh - and Citdog definitely fits the dumpy category
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