MEAC votes to give up AUTO-BID, PLAYOFFS

[JohnStOnge]

They are wrong.

I don't know why you would assume one source is wrong just because another source reports a different conclusion.

But one thing you would need to do with any source is make sure you take into account the fact that what the school kicks in to subsidize the athletic department is counted as revenue. That's not really revenue generated by the athletic program. It gets counted as revenue for the athletic program. But it's expense to the institution.

You can see what I'm talking about by going to http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... /finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and looking at various schools. Let's take Tennessee as an example.

If you click on "Tennessee" you will see a breakdown of "revenues." Note that $11,434,056 of "School Funds" is counted as "revenues." If you delete that from the "revenues" total, the revenues minus expenses net for the school is NEGATIVE $10 million.

You mess around doing that for a while at that web site and you will quickly see that the overwhelming majority of athletic programs are net costs to their schools. They don't "make money." The schools are subsidizing them.

You can also do it kind of quickly at that web site by looking at the "total subsidy" column. What you see in the "subsidy" column is counted as "revenue" by the athletic departments.

[dal4018]

They are wrong.

I don't know why you would assume one source is wrong just because another source reports a different conclusion.

But one thing you would need to do with any source is make sure you take into account the fact that what the school kicks in to subsidize the athletic department is counted as revenue. That's not really revenue generated by the athletic program. It gets counted as revenue for the athletic program. But it's expense to the institution.

You can see what I'm talking about by going to http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... /finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and looking at various schools. Let's take Tennessee as an example.

If you click on "Tennessee" you will see a breakdown of "revenues." Note that $11,434,056 of "School Funds" is counted as "revenues." If you delete that from the "revenues" total, the revenues minus expenses net for the school is NEGATIVE $10 million.

You mess around doing that for a while at that web site and you will quickly see that the overwhelming majority of athletic programs are net costs to their schools. They don't "make money." The schools are subsidizing them.

You can also do it kind of quickly at that web site by looking at the "total subsidy" column. What you see in the "subsidy" column is counted as "revenue" by the athletic departments.

Thanks John.Look at these two videos give me your thoughts on them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Doi_U0f8OA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8z-qqxP8E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JohnStOnge]

[quote}Thanks John.Look at these two videos give me your thoughts on them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Doi_U0f8OA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8z-qqxP8E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;[/quote]

I think the Martin Luther King thing is kind of irrelevant. With respect to the other one, obviously, once "mainstream" major schools started coveting top Black athletes HBCUs weren't going to get top Black athletes. I think HBCUs need to start looking at themselves as just "schools." To me they need to stop thinking of themselves as HBCUs. I know that's hard. But I think that's what the situation is.

The reason they started is because Blacks generally weren't allowed to go to "white" institutions. That situation no longer exists. If they are going to continue to exist at all they need to quit thinking of them as "Black" first.

[dal4018]

[quote}Thanks John.Look at these two videos give me your thoughts on them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Doi_U0f8OA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8z-qqxP8E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think the Martin Luther King thing is kind of irrelevant. With respect to the other one, obviously, once "mainstream" major schools started coveting top Black athletes HBCUs weren't going to get top Black athletes. I think HBCUs need to start looking at themselves as just "schools." To me they need to stop thinking of themselves as HBCUs. I know that's hard. But I think that's what the situation is.

The reason they started is because Blacks generally weren't allowed to go to "white" institutions. That situation no longer exists. If they are going to continue to exist at all they need to quit thinking of them as "Black" first.[/quote]Yes but if you ask the general public they wouldn't know about these schools nor their location.And about the MLK statement he is simply saying that the government did not live up to its promise to the black ppl that were captured those white ppl that settled down in the midwest were given a economic head start over us what could black ppl have done with that money when it comes to the area of education our HBCUs would be on equal footing with PWIs right now and this thread would not exist.