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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
You don't think the government has made a huge investment in oil production, infrastructure, and security?

Government picking winners and losers: Bad, except when it comes to oil. Commies... :ohno:
Hell, everyone receives those things from the government. I just didn't know they were now called subsidies. :?

However, I would like to know how much the government invests in oil production. All this time I thought the oil companies paid for the leases, the equipment, labor, land, R&D, compliance costs, shipping, supplies, etc.

Silly me...
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The American taxpayer pays for all that shit, Duncey, in the form of tax loopholes and corporate welfare!!!

And, if the field washes out with no oil, they get an R&D write off!

Baldy, I'm so PROUD of you - yer larnin'!!!!!!!



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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Baldy wrote: Hell, everyone receives those things from the government. I just didn't know they were now called subsidies. :?

However, I would like to know how much the government invests in oil production. All this time I thought the oil companies paid for the leases, the equipment, labor, land, R&D, compliance costs, shipping, supplies, etc.

Silly me...
:dunce:

The American taxpayer pays for all that shit, Duncey, in the form of tax loopholes and corporate welfare!!!

And, if the field washes out with no oil, they get an R&D write off!

Baldy, I'm so PROUD of you - yer larnin'!!!!!!!



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Really?

So what loopholes and corporate welfare do the oil companies get that say...Google and Apple don't? :o
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Baldy wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

The American taxpayer pays for all that shit, Duncey, in the form of tax loopholes and corporate welfare!!!

And, if the field washes out with no oil, they get an R&D write off!

Baldy, I'm so PROUD of you - yer larnin'!!!!!!!



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Really?

So what loopholes and corporate welfare do the oil companies get that say...Google and Apple don't? :o
They all get 'em, Baldy, and most of them suck, but don't be stoopid and suggest these fuckhead companies, ESPECIALLY oil companies don't get HUGE - perhaps even bigger - ones, too!!!!

And - your smug Conk ass uses Google and Apple everyday just as much as you use Exxon/Mobil, BP and Shell!!

Children of the Tman/Reagan Nanny State, weaned on the public tit.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Baldy wrote:
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Really?

So what loopholes and corporate welfare do the oil companies get that say...Google and Apple don't? :o
They all get 'em, Baldy, and most of them suck, but don't be stoopid and suggest these fuckhead companies, ESPECIALLY oil companies don't get HUGE - perhaps even bigger - ones, too!!!!

And - your smug Conk ass uses Google and Apple everyday just as much as you use Exxon/Mobil, BP and Shell!!

Children of the Tman/Reagan Nanny State, weaned on the public tit.

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Smug? Me? :ohno:

Not at all good buddy...

I'm waiting in pregnant anticipation for the day I see you blasting Googs and Apple for those obscene profits and tax breaks, loopholes and subsidies they receive. You know...the exact same ones those bastards at Big Oil receive. :kisswink:
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Baldy wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:
They all get 'em, Baldy, and most of them suck, but don't be stoopid and suggest these fuckhead companies, ESPECIALLY oil companies don't get HUGE - perhaps even bigger - ones, too!!!!

And - your smug Conk ass uses Google and Apple everyday just as much as you use Exxon/Mobil, BP and Shell!!

Children of the Tman/Reagan Nanny State, weaned on the public tit.

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Smug? Me? :ohno:

Not at all good buddy...

I'm waiting in pregnant anticipation for the day I see you blasting Googs and Apple for those obscene profits and tax breaks, loopholes and subsidies they receive. You know...the exact same ones those bastards at Big Oil receive. :kisswink:
And I'm happy as heck you choose Apple and Google products everyday! Those two companies have done more US and worldwide good than any of your carbon emissions concerns.
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Yep. Nothing ever goes wrong with pipelines. :coffee:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/ ... /21966343/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Grizalltheway wrote:Yep. Nothing ever goes wrong with pipelines. :coffee:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/ ... /21966343/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who made that statement? :?
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CitadelGrad wrote:Obama actually said that unemployment benefits would be more beneficial to the economy and create more jobs than the pipeline would. Either Obama is incredibly stupid (as I believe) or he thinks everyone else is incredibly stupid (also something that I believe).
He is and always has been a guy who has NO business being President. I wouldn't say he's "stupid." I'm sure he's got a higher than average IQ. But I don't think it's THAT high. I think it likely he'd never have gotten into Ivy League schools if he wasn't a member of an "under represented minority" and that thing about him being the "smartest person in the room" in most of the rooms he's in is a total joke.

I think the big problem, though, is that he's a liberal extremist and objective analysis has no place in his decision process. He decides what he wants to do. If objective analysis coincides with what he wants to do, that's great. But if it doesn't it doesn't matter. He'll just create another analysis to do or not do what he wanted to do or not do to begin with.

I realize that is not unique among politicians. But I think he is an extreme example.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:Obama actually said that unemployment benefits would be more beneficial to the economy and create more jobs than the pipeline would. Either Obama is incredibly stupid (as I believe) or he thinks everyone else is incredibly stupid (also something that I believe).
He is and always has been a guy who has NO business being President. I wouldn't say he's "stupid." I'm sure he's got a higher than average IQ. But I don't think it's THAT high. I think it likely he'd never have gotten into Ivy League schools if he wasn't a member of an "under represented minority" and that thing about him being the "smartest person in the room" in most of the rooms he's in is a total joke.

I think the big problem, though, is that he's a liberal extremist and objective analysis has no place in his decision process. He decides what he wants to do. If objective analysis coincides with what he wants to do, that's great. But if it doesn't it doesn't matter. He'll just create another analysis to do or not do what he wanted to do or not do to begin with.

I realize that is not unique among politicians. But I think he is an extreme example.
Liberal extremist! :rofl:
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This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people, the president wrote.
Now THAT is a crock. Is there ANYBODY here who believes that when they've been studying it since 2008? ANYBODY?
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Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Yep. Nothing ever goes wrong with pipelines. :coffee:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/ ... /21966343/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who made that statement? :?
Everyone who brushes aside the environmental concerns with the Keystone XL. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Baldy wrote: Who made that statement? :?
Everyone who brushes aside the environmental concerns with the Keystone XL. :coffee:
So, nobody then. :coffee:
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Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Everyone who brushes aside the environmental concerns with the Keystone XL. :coffee:
So, nobody then. :coffee:
Yep. Ordinary tax payers. Nobody. :coffee:
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I got gas for $1.91 a gallon today. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
Baldy wrote: So, nobody then. :coffee:
Yep. Ordinary tax payers. Nobody. :coffee:
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mrklean wrote:I got gas for $1.91 a gallon today. :thumb:
$1.67.

Third term. :thumb:
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Yep. Nothing ever goes wrong with pipelines. :coffee:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... /21966343/
And my opinion is that the general public perception of the damage done when such things happen greatly exceeds the reality. Like even something like the BP oil spill thing. I live in the impacted region and also worked on that a lot. For a while there my life was all BP oil spill all the time.

And you know what? If you had lived in South Louisiana and spent lots of time in the marshes all your life, gone into a coma in February 2010 before it happened, then woke up now and went into the marshes again you'd never even know it happened unless somebody told you.
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House sends Obama XL Pipeline authorization, to promised veto, Dems play blame game, Boehner goes BEASTMODE...

.[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rjWqT--phn4[/youtube]

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travelinman67 wrote:House sends Obama XL Pipeline authorization, to promised veto, Dems play blame game, Boehner goes BEASTMODE...

.[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rjWqT--phn4[/youtube]

:rofl:

:lol:

More like LEASTMODE.


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