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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I don't disagree, but does it have to lead to organized religion or a defined deity? This is why I'm not an atheist.
Organized religion plays no role. Nor does the "deity" require "definition".

The mere acceptance of a "force" greater than humanity's capacity to understand satisfies the element of "submission".

Re:Ivytalk's altruism observation...I would argue that altruism is as much a survival instinct as "bioligically driven self-protection" (akin to "pack protection").
What an asshole.

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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B

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D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Organized religion plays no role. Nor does the "deity" require "definition".

The mere acceptance of a "force" greater than humanity's capacity to understand satisfies the element of "submission".

Re:Ivytalk's altruism observation...I would argue that altruism is as much a survival instinct as "bioligically driven self-protection" (akin to "pack protection").
What an asshole.

Tbag in over his head again.
You do realize you're the posterchild for my argument?

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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B

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travelinman67 wrote:
D1B wrote:
What an asshole.

Tbag in over his head again.

You do realize you're the posterchild for my argument?

:coffee:
What an asshole.

Tbag out of his league again.

Watch yourself or I'll sic houndawg on you. I know you don't like that.
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D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:

You do realize you're the posterchild for my argument?

:coffee:
What an asshole.

Tbag out of his league again.

Watch yourself or I'll sic houndawg on you. I know you don't like that.
You just don't see it, D.

You no longer debate.

You've become an irrelevant troll...

...like your bud, Densedawg.

Go jack off and have a beer.
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travelinman67 wrote:
D1B wrote:
What an asshole.

Tbag out of his league again.

Watch yourself or I'll sic houndawg on you. I know you don't like that.
You just don't see it, D.

You no longer debate.

You've become an irrelevant troll...

...like your bud, Densedawg.

Go jack off and have a beer.
Your ex wife is jacking me off just fine.

You "debate"?!?! :rofl:

Nice thread too. You're the angriest and most unhappy motherfucker here. You're so demoralized you chose to drop out. :dunce:
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D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
You just don't see it, D.

You no longer debate.

You've become an irrelevant troll...

...like your bud, Densedawg.

Go jack off and have a beer.
Your ex wife is jacking me off just fine.

You "debate"?!?! :rofl:

Nice thread too. You're the angriest and most unhappy motherfucker here. You're so demoralized you chose to drop out. :dunce:
Blah, blah, blah...

...I'll keep your angst in mind next time I open an $800 bottle of Bevan/Boswell Cab.

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travelinman67 wrote:
D1B wrote:
Your ex wife is jacking me off just fine.

You "debate"?!?! :rofl:

Nice thread too. You're the angriest and most unhappy motherfucker here. You're so demoralized you chose to drop out. :dunce:
Blah, blah, blah...

...I'll keep your angst in mind next time I open an $800 bottle of Bevan/Boswell Cab.

:lol:
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Philos-o-Raptor wants to know:
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Why is it that every time D1B enters a thread that is both informative and entertaining within five posts of his arrival the thread is reverted to name calling and childish taunting..?
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I'm not religious by any means. I was raised Catholic. Catholicism taught me that you do not need to be religious to go to heaven. Catholicism taught me that being a good steward of the Earth, being a responsible and considerate human will do more than sitting and praying that I enter heaven. Sitting in a church 4 hours a month because it's routine and what you're supposed to do is cheating. I work with local and national pet rescues, a local food bank and a few other charities throughout the year that are more rewarding than sitting in a church. Doing the best I can for my family and community, treating people as equally as I can is more important to me then going to church, singing a few songs and listening to a priest. Doing my part to take care of my part of the world, being a good steward of the Earth, is more important than tithing 10% to an organization that, to me, doesn't follow it's own teachings.

I'll say this, if more priests were like the Pope, I may listen and participate.
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Chizzang wrote:Philos-o-Raptor wants to know:
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Why is it that every time D1B enters a thread that is both informative and entertaining within five posts of his arrival the thread is reverted to name calling and childish taunting..?
This thread started with childish taunting and name calling, you crop topped metrosexual hipster.
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This thread started with childish taunting and name calling, you crop topped metrosexual hipster.
Actually my hair is damn long right now...
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Chizzang wrote:
D1B wrote:
This thread started with childish taunting and name calling, you crop topped metrosexual hipster.
Actually my hair is damn long right now...
This picture is from last winter a year ago and its certainly NOT shorter than that now

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Chizzang wrote:
D1B wrote:
This thread started with childish taunting and name calling, you crop topped metrosexual hipster.
Actually my hair is damn long right now...
This picture is from last winter a year ago and its certainly NOT shorter than that now

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For the record (you assholes) :rofl: sure you're funny...

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Chizzang wrote:For the record (you assholes) :rofl: sure you're funny...

That woman is the most fun I've ever had

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Pastor spends a year without God, becomes an atheist. Don't know if he's happier though.
“You know, I think there are much more important issues to be focused on – things that are really threatening our society while we’re worried about what’s going to happen about after we die, when in reality, no one of us knows what’s going to happen to us after we die,” he explained. ” But what we do know is that if we don’t do something about the immediate challenges that we’re facing today, we’re going to die a lot sooner (laughter) than we might otherwise.”

Bell added, “My focus is I want to have a closer relationship to reality. I think before I wanted a closer relationship to God, and today, I just want a closer relationship with reality.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/past ... o-reality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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kalm wrote:Pastor spends a year without God, becomes an atheist. Don't know if he's happier though.
“You know, I think there are much more important issues to be focused on – things that are really threatening our society while we’re worried about what’s going to happen about after we die, when in reality, no one of us knows what’s going to happen to us after we die,” he explained. ” But what we do know is that if we don’t do something about the immediate challenges that we’re facing today, we’re going to die a lot sooner (laughter) than we might otherwise.”

Bell added, “My focus is I want to have a closer relationship to reality. I think before I wanted a closer relationship to God, and today, I just want a closer relationship with reality.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/past ... o-reality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At least he's more honest with himself. I'm sure kids who believe in Santa Claus are happier than those who don't. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:For the record (you assholes) :rofl: sure you're funny...

That woman is the most fun I've ever had

She's fiercely independent
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Grizalltheway wrote:
kalm wrote:Pastor spends a year without God, becomes an atheist. Don't know if he's happier though.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/past ... o-reality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At least he's more honest with himself. I'm sure kids who believe in Santa Claus are happier than those who don't. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
kalm wrote:Pastor spends a year without God, becomes an atheist. Don't know if he's happier though.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/past ... o-reality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At least he's more honest with himself. I'm sure kids who believe in Santa Claus are happier than those who don't. :coffee:
That's ^ the old:
Beautiful Lie vs. The Terrible Truth Syndrome

But ultimately the kid figures out that the gifts are the same - no matter who gave them...
And the gifts will still come next year
Understanding their is no Santa Clause does not "stop the gifts" from showing up

Once we get there as a society we'll have successfully broken the Iron Age Myth Creation
and be free to move forward

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Chizzang wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
At least he's more honest with himself. I'm sure kids who believe in Santa Claus are happier than those who don't. :coffee:
That's ^ the old:
Beautiful Lie vs. The Terrible Truth Syndrome

But ultimately the kid figures out that the gifts are the same - no matter who gave them...
And the gifts will still come next year
Understanding their is no Santa Clause does not "stop the gifts" from showing up

Once we get there as a society we'll have successfully broken the Iron Age Myth Creation
and be free to move forward

:nod:
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Chizzang wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
At least he's more honest with himself. I'm sure kids who believe in Santa Claus are happier than those who don't. :coffee:
That's ^ the old:
Beautiful Lie vs. The Terrible Truth Syndrome

But ultimately the kid figures out that the gifts are the same - no matter who gave them...
And the gifts will still come next year
Understanding their is no Santa Clause does not "stop the gifts" from showing up

Once we get there as a society we'll have successfully broken the Iron Age Myth Creation
and be free to move forward


:nod:
It's about time you finally came around to our side of the entitlement program issue. :thumb: :coffee:
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According to Harvard Business School's Clay Christensen, christian folks are more law abiding and better for democracy too. :dunce:
In the clip, Christensen — a well-known management guru and author of the book The Innovator’s Dilemma — spoke about an encounter with “a Marxist economist from China.”

The economist purportedly told Christensen that the biggest surprise he received in the U.S. was to learn how critically “important religion is to the functioning of democracy.”

The visiting economist, said Christensen, contended that the reasons American follow the law is because “most Americans attended a church or synagogue every week and they were taught there by people who they respected.”

Americans, Christensen said, follow the law “because they had come to believe that they weren’t just accountable to society, they were accountable to God.”

Christensen went on to say that he is beset by a “vague nagging feeling that as religion loses its influence in the lives of Americans, what will happen to our democracy? Where are the institutions that are going to teach the next generation of Americans that they, too, need to voluntarily choose to obey the laws?”
The facts, said Silverman, run directly counter to Christensen’s assertion that less religion means more chaos and the collapse of civil society.


“In fact, in the United States, in states with the highest percentages of atheists, the murder rate is lower than average. In the most-religious states, the murder rate is higher than average,” he said.

“Further, on average and generally speaking, atheists have fewer divorces, abortions, and STDs, and lower poverty rates, homicide rates, overall crime rates, and teen pregnancy rates. As a demographic, atheists have higher IQs, incomes, education rates, and literacy rates, and more Nobel Prizes and university professorships,” Silverman continued.
So perhaps chrisitians are happier but they also might not be quite as smart or ambitious as atheists…. :coffee:
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Just look at the crime rates in those heathen, godless Scandinavian countries. Absolutely out of control! :coffee:
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kalm wrote:According to Harvard Business School's Clay Christensen, christian folks are more law abiding and better for democracy too. :dunce:
In the clip, Christensen — a well-known management guru and author of the book The Innovator’s Dilemma — spoke about an encounter with “a Marxist economist from China.”

The economist purportedly told Christensen that the biggest surprise he received in the U.S. was to learn how critically “important religion is to the functioning of democracy.”

The visiting economist, said Christensen, contended that the reasons American follow the law is because “most Americans attended a church or synagogue every week and they were taught there by people who they respected.”

Americans, Christensen said, follow the law “because they had come to believe that they weren’t just accountable to society, they were accountable to God.”

Christensen went on to say that he is beset by a “vague nagging feeling that as religion loses its influence in the lives of Americans, what will happen to our democracy? Where are the institutions that are going to teach the next generation of Americans that they, too, need to voluntarily choose to obey the laws?”
The facts, said Silverman, run directly counter to Christensen’s assertion that less religion means more chaos and the collapse of civil society.


“In fact, in the United States, in states with the highest percentages of atheists, the murder rate is lower than average. In the most-religious states, the murder rate is higher than average,” he said.

“Further, on average and generally speaking, atheists have fewer divorces, abortions, and STDs, and lower poverty rates, homicide rates, overall crime rates, and teen pregnancy rates. As a demographic, atheists have higher IQs, incomes, education rates, and literacy rates, and more Nobel Prizes and university professorships,” Silverman continued.
So perhaps chrisitians are happier but they also might not be quite as smart or ambitious as atheists…. :coffee:
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