18,000 & 5% GDP

[ASUG8]

....and who's I'm office has WHAT to do with oil speculation?

[Ivytalk]

Obama would never be a Republican president.

And capitalize the R, you democrat punk.

He would have been a Republican 30 years ago and most the conks on this board including you would have voted for him.

Name one Republican politician who worships at the altar of Alinsky. And develop a sense of history while you can: 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan was in office. Are you comparing the Rt. Hon. Hussein Obama to Reagan?

[Baldy]

He would have been a Republican 30 years ago and most the conks on this board including you would have voted for him.

Name one Republican politician who worships at the altar of Alinsky. And develop a sense of history while you can: 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan was in office. Are you comparing the Rt. Hon. Hussein Obama to Reagan?

Because 0bama and Reagan agreed on a minute fraction of policy though they are nowhere near each other in regards to fundamental philosophy, it's what Greenwald and Taibbi tell people like him what to say.

[kalm]

Name one Republican politician who worships at the altar of Alinsky. And develop a sense of history while you can: 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan was in office. Are you comparing the Rt. Hon. Hussein Obama to Reagan?

Because 0bama and Reagan agreed on a minute fraction of policy though they are nowhere near each other in regards to fundamental philosophy, it's what Greenwald and Taibbi tell people like him what to say.

Alinksy!!! Greenwald!!! Taibbi!!!

You guys forgot Bill Ayers, Noam Chomsky, and Chris Hedges...

There's two votes Republican Obama. Any more?

[Ivytalk]

Because 0bama and Reagan agreed on a minute fraction of policy though they are nowhere near each other in regards to fundamental philosophy, it's what Greenwald and Taibbi tell people like him what to say.

Alinksy!!! Greenwald!!! Taibbi!!!

You guys forgot Bill Ayers, Noam Chomsky, and Chris Hedges...

There's two votes Republican Obama. Any more?

That reminds me...should've had Chomsky in my Death Pool this year.

[CAA Flagship]

Obama would never be a Republican president.

And capitalize the R, you democrat punk.

He would have been a Republican 30 years ago and most the conks on this board including you would have voted for him.

Don't be ridiculous.
30 years ago we were in the middle of the Reagan era.

[kalm]

He would have been a Republican 30 years ago and most the conks on this board including you would have voted for him.

Don't be ridiculous.
30 years ago we were in the middle of the Reagan era.

And if Obama had been the Republican President, you would have loved him just the same.

[AZGrizFan]

Don't be ridiculous.
30 years ago we were in the middle of the Reagan era.

And if Obama had been the Republican President, you would have loved him just the same.

He's black. Like THAT would have ever happened.

[CID1990]

Don't be ridiculous.
30 years ago we were in the middle of the Reagan era.

And if Obama had been the Republican President, you would have loved him just the same.

The GOP doesnt nominate doctrinaire ideological liberals so your hypothetical is just that.

I do like how your liberal mea culpa has evolved from "The One" to "Held Back by Congress" to the new hotness, "Hes Actually Just a Republican".

Funny Ive been hearing that vibe from a lot of liberals. There must have been a memo.

[kalm]

And if Obama had been the Republican President, you would have loved him just the same.

He's black. Like THAT would have ever happened.

[kalm]

And if Obama had been the Republican President, you would have loved him just the same.

The GOP doesnt nominate doctrinaire ideological liberals so your hypothetical is just that.

I do like how your liberal mea culpa has evolved from "The One" to "Held Back by Congress" to the new hotness, "Hes Actually Just a Republican".

Funny Ive been hearing that vibe from a lot of liberals. There must have been a memo.

Man, you are so confused here.

I'm not sure you knew me back in 2008, but my attitude then was "we shall see" as any reasonable person would have. I had already started to sour on the Democrats by that time and when Geithner was appointed, I started losing "hope" rather quickly.

I haven't made the "held back by congress" argument because that would lend credence to Obama being more progressive but having his hands tied. That would be an excuse better used by Obamabots and you.

I've been calling Obama a moderate Republican for a number of years now, so evidently I was ahead of the meme.

But you continue and write whatever narrative you'd like about me, Cochise. It's fun watching the nerves be struck.

[AZGrizFan]

The GOP doesnt nominate doctrinaire ideological liberals so your hypothetical is just that.

I do like how your liberal mea culpa has evolved from "The One" to "Held Back by Congress" to the new hotness, "Hes Actually Just a Republican".

Funny Ive been hearing that vibe from a lot of liberals. There must have been a memo.

Man, you are so confused here.

I'm not sure you knew me back in 2008, but my attitude then was "we shall see" as any reasonable person would have. I had already started to sour on the Democrats by that time and when Geithner was appointed, I started losing "hope" rather quickly.

I haven't made the "held back by congress" meme because that would lend credence to Obama being more progressive but having his hands tied. That would be an excuse better used by Obamabots and you.

I've been calling Obama a moderate Republican for a number of years now, so evidently I was ahead of the meme.

But you continue and write whatever narrative you'd like about me, Cochise. It's fun watching the nerves be struck.

Me thinketh thou doth protesteth too much.

[CID1990]

Man, you are so confused here.

I'm not sure you knew me back in 2008, but my attitude then was "we shall see" as any reasonable person would have. I had already started to sour on the Democrats by that time and when Geithner was appointed, I started losing "hope" rather quickly.

I haven't made the "held back by congress" meme because that would lend credence to Obama being more progressive but having his hands tied. That would be an excuse better used by Obamabots and you.

I've been calling Obama a moderate Republican for a number of years now, so evidently I was ahead of the meme.

But you continue and write whatever narrative you'd like about me, Cochise. It's fun watching the nerves be struck.

Me thinketh thou doth protesteth too much.

Yeah that was a little War and Peace-ish, wasnt it?

Looks like the only nerve that was struck was Klam's

[Baldy]

Because 0bama and Reagan agreed on a minute fraction of policy though they are nowhere near each other in regards to fundamental philosophy, it's what Greenwald and Taibbi tell people like him what to say.

Alinksy!!! Greenwald!!! Taibbi!!!

You guys forgot Bill Ayers, Noam Chomsky, and Chris Hedges...

There's two votes Republican Obama. Any more?

Well, you didn't refute it.

If you would have used large fonts, bold type, and an excessive smileys, that post would have sounded just like one of Cappy's vapid posts.

[JohnStOnge]

If John F. Kennedy wasn't a Republican 53 years ago there's no way somebody like Obama would've been a Republican 30 years ago.

You'd have never caught Obama publicly and enthusiastically saying something like this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sGN6J9Tgs[/youtube]

Now, the extent to which Reagan followed through on those statements was a disappointment. But I have no doubt that he meant what he said at the time. And Obama just doesn't believe like that. Obama is a person who looks at the Federal government as a positive force for good. He believes strongly in a very proactive and dominant Federal government that manages things down to the nth degree. It's obvious.

[kalm]

Me thinketh thou doth protesteth too much.

Yeah that was a little War and Peace-ish, wasnt it?

Looks like the only nerve that was struck was Klam's

Guilty! I should have used Z's line instead.

[kalm]

If John F. Kennedy wasn't a Republican 53 years ago there's no way somebody like Obama would've been a Republican 30 years ago.

You'd have never caught Obama publicly and enthusiastically saying something like this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sGN6J9Tgs[/youtube]

Now, the extent to which Reagan followed through on those statements was a disappointment. But I have no doubt that he meant what he said at the time. And Obama just doesn't believe like that. Obama is a person who looks at the Federal government as a positive force for good. He believes strongly in a very proactive and dominant Federal government that manages things down to the nth degree. It's obvious.

So neither followed through on their rhetoric or they were held back by opposition congresses.

Of course they had many differences but actions speak louder than words and on the surface they experienced some similar successes...



"Muthafuckin Morning in America II, bitches!"

[BDKJMU]

So we're in a deep recession. Thanks Obama.

5% GDP growth is a recession?

There hasn't been 5% GDP growth. The last yr its grown about 2.3%.

[ASUG8]

If John F. Kennedy wasn't a Republican 53 years ago there's no way somebody like Obama would've been a Republican 30 years ago.

You'd have never caught Obama publicly and enthusiastically saying something like this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sGN6J9Tgs[/youtube]

Now, the extent to which Reagan followed through on those statements was a disappointment. But I have no doubt that he meant what he said at the time. And Obama just doesn't believe like that. Obama is a person who looks at the Federal government as a positive force for good. He believes strongly in a very proactive and dominant Federal government that manages things down to the nth degree. It's obvious.

So neither followed through on their rhetoric or they were held back by opposition congresses.

Of course they had many differences but actions speak louder than words and on the surface they experienced some similar successes...



"Muthafuckin Morning in America II, bitches!"

I think I just peed a little bit.

[BDKJMU]

The national avg is still about $2.37 a gallon. That isn't cheap. It was $1.89 when Obama got into office. More like $1.50 is cheap...

Under $2.00 in Arizona. Under $1.79 in Texas.

Were talking national avg here. There are always states that are way under and over the national avg.

[BDKJMU]

"Muthafuckin Morning in America II, bitches!"

Well if that ain't a load of BS..

[JohnStOnge]

Reagan de-regulated. I'll link this page since it's people who didn't agree with him doing that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 103x384561" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't agree with a lot of what's on that page. But the point is Reagan was VERY different from the friggin slime under a rock worm we have in the White House right now.

[kalm]

Reagan de-regulated. I'll link this page since it's people who didn't agree with him doing that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 103x384561" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't agree with a lot of what's on that page. But the point is Reagan was VERY different from the friggin slime under a rock worm we have in the White House right now.

You speak as though de-regulating is always a good thing.

[Ivytalk]

Reagan de-regulated. I'll link this page since it's people who didn't agree with him doing that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 103x384561" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't agree with a lot of what's on that page. But the point is Reagan was VERY different from the friggin slime under a rock worm we have in the White House right now.

You speak as though de-regulating is always a good thing.

Glass, meet Steagall.

[kalm]

You speak as though de-regulating is always a good thing.

Glass, meet Steagall.