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Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
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Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
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Tbag, can I come live with you?
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"...a new study by the Austin Institute for the Study of Family and Culture."
Please look up the history of this "institute" and some of the other "research" it's posted.
Please look up the history of this "institute" and some of the other "research" it's posted.
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No shit. It's like the Family Research Council.∞∞∞ wrote:"...a new study by the Austin Institute for the Study of Family and Culture."
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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
Please download a tenancy application from:D1B wrote:Tbag, can I come live with you?
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I'll require a reference letter from Father Hurtz and proof of current rabies vaccination.
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That's child abuse.kalm wrote:No ****. It's like the Family Research Council.∞∞∞ wrote:"...a new study by the Austin Institute for the Study of Family and Culture."
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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
regardless of the predetermined outcome of the research group...
Faith - Accepting of the unknown - belief in a power greater than ones self - open to the possibilities
These things ^ are the center point from which one can launch genuine happiness
I'm not talking about the blatant stupidity of the Bible - but it'll work in a pinch - if you're the kind that needs to be told what to think...
No, what I'm talking about is admitting "we don't know sh!t" and letting go
and rejoicing in the miraculousness of this whole thing - it is a miracle
I could go on and on but suffice to say: I believe that study is on the right track
Faith - Accepting of the unknown - belief in a power greater than ones self - open to the possibilities
These things ^ are the center point from which one can launch genuine happiness
I'm not talking about the blatant stupidity of the Bible - but it'll work in a pinch - if you're the kind that needs to be told what to think...
No, what I'm talking about is admitting "we don't know sh!t" and letting go
and rejoicing in the miraculousness of this whole thing - it is a miracle
I could go on and on but suffice to say: I believe that study is on the right track
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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
Yeah. Why don't the idiots just leave her with a priest, instead.Ivytalk wrote:That's child abuse.kalm wrote:
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So it's better to believe than to be kind, charitable, and good.Ivytalk wrote:That's child abuse.kalm wrote:
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That is for each person to decide for themselves..kalm wrote:
So it's better to believe than to be kind, charitable, and good.
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays
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So it's not necessarily child abuse? Thank God!Chizzang wrote:That is for each person to decide for themselves..kalm wrote:
So it's better to believe than to be kind, charitable, and good.
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays
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Be both.kalm wrote:So it's better to believe than to be kind, charitable, and good.Ivytalk wrote: That's child abuse.
Be happy.
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Re: Study: Religious People Happier Than D1B
What if you just wonder instead of believe?travelinman67 wrote:Be both.kalm wrote:
So it's better to believe than to be kind, charitable, and good.
Be happy.
Can you still be happy and good?
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Re-read Hippie's remarks:kalm wrote:What if you just wonder instead of believe?travelinman67 wrote:
Be both.
Be happy.
Can you still be happy and good?![]()
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 59#p945138
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Wrong, Dipshit.travelinman67 wrote:Re-read Hippie's remarks:kalm wrote:
What if you just wonder instead of believe?
Can you still be happy and good?![]()
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 59#p945138
Understanding you are not master of your dominion is key. Egoism is a dealbreaker.
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I liked Hippie's remarks and I agree with yours here. But I think you might be just as inclined towards happiness and good being filled with wonderment at the nature that surrounds you here on earth and the immensity of the universe beyond without "religion".travelinman67 wrote:Re-read Hippie's remarks:kalm wrote:
What if you just wonder instead of believe?
Can you still be happy and good?![]()
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 59#p945138
Understanding you are not master of your dominion is key. Egoism is a dealbreaker.
I think Hippie might suggest this can still lead to a belief in God but I'm not sure the authors of your study would. I see egoism and the desire to master over your domaine just as present if not more so in the "religious" as I do in the non-religious. Or, as Gil suggests, spiritual people are happier than religious people.
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The issue is scope. What does "spirituality" encompass?kalm wrote:I liked Hippie's remarks and I agree with yours here. But I think you might be just as inclined towards happiness and good being filled with wonderment at the nature that surrounds you here on earth and the immensity of the universe beyond without "religion".travelinman67 wrote:
Re-read Hippie's remarks:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 59#p945138
Understanding you are not master of your dominion is key. Egoism is a dealbreaker.
I think Hippie might suggest this can still lead to a belief in God but I'm not sure the authors of your study would. I see egoism and the desire to master over your domaine just as present if not more so in the "religious" as I do in the non-religious. Or, as Gil suggests, spiritual people are happier than religious people.
Does the "wonderment" retain breadth inclusive of submission to a greater power? Complete open-mindedness?
...Or is it limited by ego?
My opinion, but most atheists are incapable of a "spirituality" that envisions a God other than themself.
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I've met a number of professed atheists who are capable of altruistic behavior, some of whom actually help the needy without expecting a reward, but I can't say any of them are spiritual.travelinman67 wrote:The issue is scope. What does "spirituality" encompass?kalm wrote:
I liked Hippie's remarks and I agree with yours here. But I think you might be just as inclined towards happiness and good being filled with wonderment at the nature that surrounds you here on earth and the immensity of the universe beyond without "religion".
I think Hippie might suggest this can still lead to a belief in God but I'm not sure the authors of your study
would. I see egoism and the desire to master over your domaine just as present if not more so in the "religious" as I do in the non-religious. Or, as Gil suggests, spiritual people are happier than religious people.
Does the "wonderment" retain breadth inclusive of submission to a greater power? Complete open-mindedness?
...Or is it limited by ego?
My opinion, but most atheists are incapable of a "spirituality" that envisions a God other than themself.
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I think that describes many of them.Ivytalk wrote:I've met a number of professed atheists who are capable of altruistic behavior, some of whom actually help the needy without expecting a reward, but I can't say any of them are spiritual.travelinman67 wrote:
The issue is scope. What does "spirituality" encompass?
Does the "wonderment" retain breadth inclusive of submission to a greater power? Complete open-mindedness?
...Or is it limited by ego?
My opinion, but most atheists are incapable of a "spirituality" that envisions a God other than themself.
The question, then, is why does altruistic behavior make people happy? That drive seems to contradict the idea that we act in a biologically-driven need to protect ourselves, and the exploration of that question, and efforts to answer it, might lead many to a surprising place.
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I agree. The "Golden Rule" has been a cornerstone of moral philosophy for thousands of years, and it has strong religious roots (by no means exclusively Christian, either). Spirituality requires some innate sense of the concept of "the divine," whatever form that takes.JoltinJoe wrote:I think that describes many of them.Ivytalk wrote:
I've met a number of professed atheists who are capable of altruistic behavior, some of whom actually help the needy without expecting a reward, but I can't say any of them are spiritual.
The question, then, is why does altruistic behavior make people happy? That drive seems to contradict the idea that we act in a biologically-driven need to protect ourselves, and the exploration of that question, and efforts to answer it, might lead many to a surprising place.
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I don't disagree, but does it have to lead to organized religion or a defined deity? This is why I'm not an atheist.JoltinJoe wrote:I think that describes many of them.Ivytalk wrote:
I've met a number of professed atheists who are capable of altruistic behavior, some of whom actually help the needy without expecting a reward, but I can't say any of them are spiritual.
The question, then, is why does altruistic behavior make people happy? That drive seems to contradict the idea that we act in a biologically-driven need to protect ourselves, and the exploration of that question, and efforts to answer it, might lead many to a surprising place.
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No, what I'm talking about is admitting "we don't know sh!t" and letting go
and rejoicing in the miraculousness of this whole thing - it is a miracle
I could go on and on but suffice to say: I believe that study is on the right track
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Organized religion plays no role. Nor does the "deity" require "definition".kalm wrote:I don't disagree, but does it have to lead to organized religion or a defined deity? This is why I'm not an atheist.JoltinJoe wrote:
I think that describes many of them.
The question, then, is why does altruistic behavior make people happy? That drive seems to contradict the idea that we act in a biologically-driven need to protect ourselves, and the exploration of that question, and efforts to answer it, might lead many to a surprising place.
The mere acceptance of a "force" greater than humanity's capacity to understand satisfies the element of "submission".
Re:Ivytalk's altruism observation...I would argue that altruism is as much a survival instinct as "bioligically driven self-protection" (akin to "pack protection").
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Pwns wrote:Chizzang wrote:
No, what I'm talking about is admitting "we don't know sh!t" and letting go
and rejoicing in the miraculousness of this whole thing - it is a miracle
I could go on and on but suffice to say: I believe that study is on the right track
Science-hating Creationist.
Admitting we don't know anything is my way of saying:
We need more science and more actual knowledge more actual discovery
Each generation of humans can stand on the shoulders of the previous and learn more
Instead of the end of learning like the Bible commands - all the answers within here lie - blah blah blah
Each generation can establish new goals and knowledge replacing the old gibberish and nonsense
In short:
we don't know sh!t
Everything I see looks like a damn miracle
Fear not that inner feeling we are all built with that yearns for a higher power - accept it - Love it
Its the greatest feeling of all that I experience on a daily basis
and it has ZERO to do with a Bible or an Iron Age Myth
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