Another White Cop/Black Teen Shooting

[CAA Flagship]

Near Ferguson, MO.

BERKELEY, Mo. — Surveillance video released by authorities show a confrontation that ended with an armed black man shot and killed by a white police officer Tuesday night, police said.

The shooting happened a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot Michael Brown in August, sparking months of civil unrest.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said video from the scene has been released to the media.

St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman said a police officer saw two males at the side of a gas station while conducting a routine business check at about 11:15 p.m. He approached them and one of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said in a statement.

"Fearing for his life, the Berkeley officer fired several shots, striking the subject, fatally wounding him. The second subject fled the scene," Schellman said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /20849045/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[89Hen]

Newsflash, this will continue to happen.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

In hundreds of police departments across the country, the percentage of whites on the force is more than 30 percentage points higher than in the communities they serve

[andy7171]

It's not a hard concept to grasp. Do what the police say. Don't point a gun at them. WTF

[Grizalltheway]

Yeah, turns out if you're white and you point a gun at them, they'll still shoot you.

http://helenair.com/news/local/powell-c ... 3006c.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[andy7171]

Yeah, turns out if you're white and you point a gun at them, they'll still shoot you.

http://helenair.com/news/local/powell-c ... 3006c.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm sure there were a few seconds of delay in taking him down that can be construed as racist.

[dbackjon]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

[travelinman67]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Why didn't the cop immediately drive to the victim's family and apologize? Why hasn't the cop resigned? Why hasn't the police department fired all the racist white cops? Why haven't they scheduled a series of Towhall meetings to discuss the emotiinal trauma inflicted on the black community? Why hasn't the crooked D.A. dismissed all pending criminal charges against black defendants? Why wasn't Al Sharpton consulted when this officer was hired? Why are there no black Peeps at Easter?
Why?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?

[CAA Flagship]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Not sure. There are a boatload of these little towns in the STL area. Each one has it's own police force, yet the County and State police cover these areas also. Each of these smaller departments operate differently than a large department would, meaning they have less resources. It's possible that this department does not have a dash cam or body cam yet.

I think it is a terrible waste of money to not transfer all responsibility to the County. To have a police department that patrols 1 square mile and 8,000 residents is stupid.

[andy7171]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Not sure. There are a boatload of these little towns in the STL area. Each one has it's own police force, yet the County and State police cover these areas also. Each of these smaller departments operate differently than a large department would, meaning they have less resources. It's possible that this department does not have a dash cam or body cam yet.

I think it is a terrible waste of money to not transfer all responsibility to the County. To have a police department that patrols 1 square mile and 8,000 residents is stupid.

PG County is the same way in Maryland. Any County in America that has incorporated townships too. WTF?

[Rob Iola]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Not sure. There are a boatload of these little towns in the STL area. Each one has it's own police force, yet the County and State police cover these areas also. Each of these smaller departments operate differently than a large department would, meaning they have less resources. It's possible that this department does not have a dash cam or body cam yet.

I think it is a terrible waste of money to not transfer all responsibility to the County. To have a police department that patrols 1 square mile and 8,000 residents is stupid.

Naked cash grab by the munis:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- ... m-poverty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[CAA Flagship]

Not sure. There are a boatload of these little towns in the STL area. Each one has it's own police force, yet the County and State police cover these areas also. Each of these smaller departments operate differently than a large department would, meaning they have less resources. It's possible that this department does not have a dash cam or body cam yet.

I think it is a terrible waste of money to not transfer all responsibility to the County. To have a police department that patrols 1 square mile and 8,000 residents is stupid.

Naked cash grab by the munis:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- ... m-poverty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice find.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Naked cash grab by the munis:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- ... m-poverty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice find.

My best friend when I lived in Missoula got a ticket because his dog was barking during the day and he didn't pay it or appear. About 6 months later he got pulled over for speeding or something like that and guess what the cops did? They took him to jail to either pay the fine or post bond. Oh, he is white so I guess he was expected to get a free pass? Or is that just the way people think it is? The cop didn't want to take him in and my friend basically teased the cop about arresting a vicious criminal but the cops hands were tied, he had to do it.

While I fee bad for the gal in this story and her plight, she still sped and has to pay the fines. If you don't want to pay the fine? Don' speed, easy solution. She knew she had to pay and didn't appear, you don't appear, you pay the price at some point. Doesn't matter what color you are.

[Rob Iola]

Nice find.

My best friend when I lived in Missoula got a ticket because his dog was barking during the day and he didn't pay it or appear. About 6 months later he got pulled over for speeding or something like that and guess what the cops did? They took him to jail to either pay the fine or post bond. Oh, he is white so I guess he was expected to get a free pass? Or is that just the way people think it is? The cop didn't want to take him in and my friend basically teased the cop about arresting a vicious criminal but the cops hands were tied, he had to do it.

While I fee bad for the gal in this story and her plight, she still sped and has to pay the fines. If you don't want to pay the fine? Don' speed, easy solution. She knew she had to pay and didn't appear, you don't appear, you pay the price at some point. Doesn't matter what color you are.

The initial fine needs to be paid. Skipping court because you can't pay or whatever reason is a separate offense.

The issue in St. Louis is that you have a maze of interconnected jurisdictions that each have their own police force and courts. They each have municipal budgets that have discrete revenue line items for fines. And they're extracting these fines from people who don't have have adequate resources to a) pay the initial fines, b) appear at multiple court hearings, and c) obtain adequate council to understand the law and protect themselves.

The system is set up to extract revenue from people who really aren't in any position to do anything about it, not to enforce the law.

[Grizalltheway]

My best friend when I lived in Missoula got a ticket because his dog was barking during the day and he didn't pay it or appear. About 6 months later he got pulled over for speeding or something like that and guess what the cops did? They took him to jail to either pay the fine or post bond. Oh, he is white so I guess he was expected to get a free pass? Or is that just the way people think it is? The cop didn't want to take him in and my friend basically teased the cop about arresting a vicious criminal but the cops hands were tied, he had to do it.

While I fee bad for the gal in this story and her plight, she still sped and has to pay the fines. If you don't want to pay the fine? Don' speed, easy solution. She knew she had to pay and didn't appear, you don't appear, you pay the price at some point. Doesn't matter what color you are.

The initial fine needs to be paid. Skipping court because you can't pay or whatever reason is a separate offense.

The issue in St. Louis is that you have a maze of interconnected jurisdictions that each have their own police force and courts. They each have municipal budgets that have discrete revenue line items for fines. And they're extracting these fines from people who don't have have adequate resources to a) pay the initial fines, b) appear at multiple court hearings, and c) obtain adequate council to understand the law and protect themselves.

The system is set up to extract revenue from people who really aren't in any position to do anything about it, not to enforce the law.

Look at this bleeding heart bleed! The whole Christmas thing must be getting to you.

[DSUrocks07]

Newsflash, this will continue to happen.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

In hundreds of police departments across the country, the percentage of whites on the force is more than 30 percentage points higher than in the communities they serve

Well when whites still make up the majority of the population (and three to four times the population of blacks), that's a given.

I always find it interesting that the biggest complaint is that "cops don't look like us", but every black person I know who is a cop are considered "sellouts" and "not keeping it real", "working for the MAN" and stupid shit like that.

[DSUrocks07]

Nice find.

My best friend when I lived in Missoula got a ticket because his dog was barking during the day and he didn't pay it or appear. About 6 months later he got pulled over for speeding or something like that and guess what the cops did? They took him to jail to either pay the fine or post bond. Oh, he is white so I guess he was expected to get a free pass? Or is that just the way people think it is? The cop didn't want to take him in and my friend basically teased the cop about arresting a vicious criminal but the cops hands were tied, he had to do it.

While I fee bad for the gal in this story and her plight, she still sped and has to pay the fines. If you don't want to pay the fine? Don' speed, easy solution. She knew she had to pay and didn't appear, you don't appear, you pay the price at some point. Doesn't matter what color you are.

But that would require



PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!?!?!?!?!?!!?!

[CAA Flagship]

The initial fine needs to be paid. Skipping court because you can't pay or whatever reason is a separate offense.

The issue in St. Louis is that you have a maze of interconnected jurisdictions that each have their own police force and courts. They each have municipal budgets that have discrete revenue line items for fines. And they're extracting these fines from people who don't have have adequate resources to a) pay the initial fines, b) appear at multiple court hearings, and c) obtain adequate council to understand the law and protect themselves.

The system is set up to extract revenue from people who really aren't in any position to do anything about it, not to enforce the law.

Look at this bleeding heart bleed! The whole Christmas thing must be getting to you.

This is a discussion about excessive government. Not people who can't do the time for their crime.
Go back to sleep pussyfaggot.

[Grizalltheway]

Look at this bleeding heart bleed! The whole Christmas thing must be getting to you.

This is a discussion about excessive government. Not people who can't do the time for their crime.
Go back to sleep pussyfaggot.

B-buh personal responsibility!! Not our fault these people get in trouble and don't have enough money to deal with it!! Shoulda gone to MIT and gotten an engineering degree!! Cops are just doing their jobs!!!!!

[JohnStOnge]

Proportionately, Blacks act up and put themselves in position to have this sort of thing happen than the rest of the general population does. That's the thing.

It's not racism. It's just people responding rationally to experience and reality.

[Ibanez]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Very good questions. There aren't any excuses for this.

[travelinman67]

This looks to be justified, but why was the dash cam off? Why did the cop not wear his assigned body cam??

Very good questions. There aren't any excuses for this.

Listen up. We're one camera short.
Tony, you'll go without tonight. We're all counting on you to bag
a darkie tonight. If you run into trouble, the Farruq kid usually
has a knife in his backpack and hangs around the side of Circle K.
Just make sure you're in the shadow until he goes down.
QUIET! Here comes Hernandez.

[DSUrocks07]

Wait...what?

[CAA Flagship]

Wait...what?

Damn, there are some really stupid people out there.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Wait...what?

Damn, there are some really stupid people out there.

[houndawg]

Near Ferguson, MO.

BERKELEY, Mo. — Surveillance video released by authorities show a confrontation that ended with an armed black man shot and killed by a white police officer Tuesday night, police said.

The shooting happened a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot Michael Brown in August, sparking months of civil unrest.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said video from the scene has been released to the media.

St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman said a police officer saw two males at the side of a gas station while conducting a routine business check at about 11:15 p.m. He approached them and one of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said in a statement.

"Fearing for his life, the Berkeley officer fired several shots, striking the subject, fatally wounding him. The second subject fled the scene," Schellman said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /20849045/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

....why would somebody pull a gun on a cop who already has his pointed at them?