The Deafness Before The Storm

[houndawg]

I don't disagree. This is simply new information that the CIA was aware of the threat and the administration should have been well before Aug 6th. What actions did the administration take once it was on their horizon? Why was Iraq considered more of worthy endeavor?

Maybe because we'd been bombing them for a decade and he was paying $25k to suicide bombers families? Did we know who Osama bin Laden was before 9-11? On the scale that we knew Saddam? Clinton had him but passed on him

Of course we did, the bin Ladens and the Bushes have been bidniz partners for decades.

[DSUrocks07]

False statements. I have not propped up the Bush Admin...ever.

You, are a liar.

You're passive aggressively propping them up in this very thread.

Similar to how you and every other Donk leaning poster passive aggressively prop up the Obama Administration with posts like these?

[kalm]

You're passive aggressively propping them up in this very thread.

Similar to how you and every other Donk leaning poster passive aggressively prop up the Obama Administration with posts like these?

Huh? Bush received more warnings than first reported. What does that have to do with Obama?

Thanks for making my point.

[AZGrizFan]

Similar to how you and every other Donk leaning poster passive aggressively prop up the Obama Administration with posts like these?

Huh? Bush received more warnings than first reported. What does that have to do with Obama?

Thanks for making my point.

Up to that point all we'd really had was threats and warnings. Then 9/11 happened. Why is that so difficult to understand?

[D1B]

Huh? Bush received more warnings than first reported. What does that have to do with Obama?

Thanks for making my point.

Up to that point all we'd really had was threats and warnings. Then 9/11 happened. Why is that so difficult to understand?

"Palin was a genius pick...."

[AZGrizFan]

Up to that point all we'd really had was threats and warnings. Then 9/11 happened. Why is that so difficult to understand?

"Palin was a genius pick...."

And every day she proves herself to be smarter than Obama.

Then again, that bar is set pretty fucking low, isn't it, D?

[kalm]

Huh? Bush received more warnings than first reported. What does that have to do with Obama?

Thanks for making my point.

Up to that point all we'd really had was threats and warnings. Then 9/11 happened. Why is that so difficult to understand?

All I said was Bush received more warnings than first reported, and asked what that has to do with Obama.

[JohnStOnge]

How come it wasn't Clinton's fault?

[kalm]

How come it wasn't Clinton's fault?

If you took a poll of Republicans, I'm guessing 85% of them would say it was.

[andy7171]

How come it wasn't Clinton's fault?

If you took a poll of Republicans, I'm guessing 85% of them would say it was.

If Clinton had taken him from Sudan, would 9/11 had occured?

[kalm]

If you took a poll of Republicans, I'm guessing 85% of them would say it was.

If Clinton had taken him from Sudan, would 9/11 had occured?

I don't know. And if Reagan and Rummy hadn't allowed the Taliban to rise to power?

[andy7171]

If Clinton had taken him from Sudan, would 9/11 had occured?

I don't know. And if Reagan and Rummy hadn't allowed the Taliban to rise to power?

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

[AZGrizFan]

If Clinton had taken him from Sudan, would 9/11 had occured?

I don't know. And if Reagan and Rummy hadn't allowed the Taliban to rise to power?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


For now.

[kalm]

I don't know. And if Reagan and Rummy hadn't allowed the Taliban to rise to power?

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

Or if Ike hadn't allowed the CIA to depose Mossadegh.

[GannonFan]

I don't know. And if Reagan and Rummy hadn't allowed the Taliban to rise to power?

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

[kalm]

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

[andy7171]

Would any of this occured had we never declared independance from England?

[Chizzang]

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

you kid
but its fucking true 1914 or 1915 can't remember
Was a HUGE interventionist F****k up
Sykes–Picot Agreement was the beginning of the never ending Middle Eastern drama

[AZGrizFan]

I blame the potato famine.

[Ibanez]

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

you kid
but its fucking true 1914 or 1915 can't remember
Was a HUGE interventionist F****k up
Sykes–Picot Agreement was the beginning of the never ending Middle Eastern drama

Close. 1916.

[Ibanez]

Or if Carter hadn't allowed the Shah to be overthrown?

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

So, Democrats are to blame?

[GannonFan]

Obviously a lot of this traces back to Wilson's inability to keep the Ottoman Empire together during the conferences held after World War 1. That Versailles Conference just keeps coming back to kick us in our rear.

So, Democrats are to blame?

Well, specifically, Progressive Democrats. That and the French, of course, god damned Clemenceau!!!

[kalm]

So, Democrats are to blame?

Well, specifically, Progressive Democrats. That and the French, of course, god damned Clemenceau!!!

Wilson wasn't a true progressive. He was to the right of Reagan!

[GannonFan]

Well, specifically, Progressive Democrats. That and the French, of course, god damned Clemenceau!!!

Wilson wasn't a true progressive. He was to the right of Reagan!

I know it must be difficult for you, but there was a time when being Progressive actually stood for something tangible and actionable and not just a way to complain about something with no solution in mind.

[Baldy]

Well, specifically, Progressive Democrats. That and the French, of course, god damned Clemenceau!!!

Wilson wasn't a true progressive. He was to the right of Reagan!

Wilson was the model 'progressive'.