Hofstra explores parting ways with the CAA

[jstclmet]

This could be interesting.

First Fordham, now Hofstra.....Something's a stirring in the NY area.....

http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/n ... 9758.story

[dbackjon]

Hofstra will explore moving its intercollegiate athletic program out of the southern-based Colonial Athletic Association, persons familiar with the athletic program said Thursday.

Hofstra did not say what has prompted its exploration, but it appears the university would prefer to have more of a northeast profile. The Atlantic-10 is Hofstra's first choice, those close to the situation said, but no openings currently exist in that New England-based group.

Under the former administration of president James Shuart, Hofstra joined the CAA for the 2001-2002 season, leaving the America East right after the university's basketball teams had won two straight conference titles and bids to the NCAA Tournament.

Hofstra joined the CAA so its football program could elevate from independent status to membership in the Atlantic-10 conference, which later blended football into the CAA.

Hofstra apparently has no interest in returning to the America East.

So where would they go?

[Col Hogan]

Where would they go isn't the biggest question...if they are interested in the A-10, are they planning on giving up football, because all the full-time members of the A-10 with football abandoned that conference for the CAA...

[SUUTbird]

I could very possibly see the A10 bringing back football especially if the CAA setup gets anymore crazy and more complicated then it already is and messing up the playoff system (no conference should get more then 3 teams in) or is going to be, this is what i think could very well happen in the future:

With this setup the Atlantic Ten Conference would already be pretty strong and be able for an automatic berth into the playoffs. Duquesne would leave the North Eastern Conference but with alot of teams moving up to 1-AA in the near future i dont see their absence being missed to much for to long.

Atlantic 10 Conference:
-UMASS
-Rhode Island
-Richmond
-Fordham
-Duquesne
-New Hampshire
-Maine
-Villanova

This would then leave the CAA conference with 8 teams and allow them to actually have to play one another each year for the conference title and allow more chances to play teams OOC.

CAA Conference
-Delaware
-Hofstra
-Georgia State
-JMU
-Northeastern
-Old Dominion
-Towson
-W&M

[andy7171]

Why would Villanova leave Delaware and the CAA?

[andy7171]

Hold on a second, upon second reading, this is the tool who hates Hofsta isn't it?

[bluehenbillk]

There are multiple articles, one by the Marcus guy in Newsday, but it's also in the NY Post with a quote from their hoops coach so it looks legit.

Hopefully I'll never have to make the road trip to hell again, Hempstead is a frustrating place to travel to.

[BlueHen86]

I could very possibly see the A10 bringing back football especially if the CAA setup gets anymore crazy and more complicated then it already is and messing up the playoff system (no conference should get more then 3 teams in) or is going to be, this is what i think could very well happen in the future:

With this setup the Atlantic Ten Conference would already be pretty strong and be able for an automatic berth into the playoffs. Duquesne would leave the North Eastern Conference but with alot of teams moving up to 1-AA in the near future i dont see their absence being missed to much for to long.

So you think the A10 will bring back football because the CAA gets too many teams in the playoffs?

[DukeJack]

I could very possibly see the A10 bringing back football especially if the CAA setup gets anymore crazy and more complicated then it already is and messing up the playoff system (no conference should get more then 3 teams in) or is going to be, this is what i think could very well happen in the future:

With this setup the Atlantic Ten Conference would already be pretty strong and be able for an automatic berth into the playoffs. Duquesne would leave the North Eastern Conference but with alot of teams moving up to 1-AA in the near future i dont see their absence being missed to much for to long.

So you think the A10 will bring back football because the CAA gets too many teams in the playoffs?

Sure sounds like it. But with his proposed conference set-up, there would actually be more opportunities for (current and former) CAA teams to make the playoffs. I also don't see why Villanova would be willing to leave Delaware, especially for just one affiliate sport.

I dunno, it always seems like the people most bothered by how we settle our champions are never CAA folks

[BlueHen86]

So you think the A10 will bring back football because the CAA gets too many teams in the playoffs?

Sure sounds like it. But with his proposed conference set-up, there would actually be more opportunities for (current and former) CAA teams to make the playoffs. I also don't see why Villanova would be willing to leave Delaware, especially for just one affiliate sport.

I dunno, it always seems like the people most bothered by how we settle our champions are never CAA folks

You nailed it.

[danefan]

Apparently this thing has legs. The NY Post has now picked it up as well.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05072009/sport...c_10_168088.htm

The Post picked it up and changed it to include the following language:

Hofstra University is seriously investigating the possibility of leaving the Colonial Athletic Association and its first choice is to join the Atlantic 10.

I for one would love to see the A10

[danefan]

I could very possibly see the A10 bringing back football especially if the CAA setup gets anymore crazy and more complicated then it already is and messing up the playoff system (no conference should get more then 3 teams in) or is going to be, this is what i think could very well happen in the future:

With this setup the Atlantic Ten Conference would already be pretty strong and be able for an automatic berth into the playoffs. Duquesne would leave the North Eastern Conference but with alot of teams moving up to 1-AA in the near future i dont see their absence being missed to much for to long.

Atlantic 10 Conference:
-UMASS
-Rhode Island
-Richmond
-Fordham
-Duquesne
-New Hampshire
-Maine
-Villanova

This would then leave the CAA conference with 8 teams and allow them to actually have to play one another each year for the conference title and allow more chances to play teams OOC.

CAA Conference
-Delaware
-Hofstra
-Georgia State
-JMU
-Northeastern
-Old Dominion
-Towson
-W&M

Nova isn't every going to leave the CAA. They have ties with Delaware and absolutely no ties with the A10.

That's not a dealbreaker for the A10 though as Stony Brook and Albany would both be willing to fill that void. However, the real dealbreak, IMO is UMass and UNH. UMass has no reason to leave UD, Nova, etc. And UMass has absolutely no incentive to part ways with UMass.

[jstclmet]

A friend of mine who's an A-10 Official just told me this all comes from the HU Basketball Coach. The A-10 does not have any info of interest from HU in joining them.

[Col Hogan]

I could very possibly see the A10 bringing back football especially if the CAA setup gets anymore crazy and more complicated then it already is and messing up the playoff system (no conference should get more then 3 teams in) or is going to be, this is what i think could very well happen in the future:

With this setup the Atlantic Ten Conference would already be pretty strong and be able for an automatic berth into the playoffs. Duquesne would leave the North Eastern Conference but with alot of teams moving up to 1-AA in the near future i dont see their absence being missed to much for to long.

Atlantic 10 Conference:
-UMASS
-Rhode Island
-Richmond
-Fordham
-Duquesne
-New Hampshire
-Maine
-Villanova

This would then leave the CAA conference with 8 teams and allow them to actually have to play one another each year for the conference title and allow more chances to play teams OOC.

CAA Conference
-Delaware
-Hofstra
-Georgia State
-JMU
-Northeastern
-Old Dominion
-Towson
-W&M

This isn't a slam, but you obviously have no understanding of the history that drove the A-10 teams to the CAA...the same reason (IMHO) that will prevent us from going back...

It's this...the A-10 is a basketball centric conference...everything revolves around hoops...and the A-10 leadership makes no bones about that...

They put little to no effort into promoting football...or helping football...and made it pretty plain they would not...

The CAA made it clear they would promote and support football...and have kept their word...

Until the A-10 changes it's approach, I doubt you will see UMass or the other "full membership" schools bringing football back to the A-10...

[SUUTbird]

Okay first of all i am by no means just writing this thread because i think to many teams get into the playoffs from the CAA. Second of all im not a hater of hofstra. i do understand that the A10 is a basketball first conference but the reason i wrote the conferences up the way i did is just one way i could see things being easier for both conferences in terms of scheduling, travel and all sport members and how they coud possibly work out. And yes i do kinda have a problem with to many teams getting in but thats just because i believe a team should have to play every team in the conference to earn the title, not just targetting the CAA here.

[Col Hogan]

Okay first of all i am by no means just writing this thread because i think to many teams get into the playoffs from the CAA. Second of all im not a hater of hofstra. i do understand that the A10 is a basketball first conference but the reason i wrote the conferences up the way i did is just one way i could see things being easier for both conferences in terms of scheduling, travel and all sport members and how they coud possibly work out. And yes i do kinda have a problem with to many teams getting in but thats just because i believe a team should have to play every team in the conference to earn the title, not just targetting the CAA here.

Idealistically, you are correct...

Realistically, until the A-10 changes it's attitude about football...it ain't gonna happen...