I actually have a lot of respect for Hilary. She's an extremely intelligent and capable person. She's also a somewhat pragmatic neo-con chameleon who pursues power and influence with ruthless abandon. I think we would have likely been better off if she had won the nomination in 2008.CID1990 wrote:1. Not sure where your confidence in the American electorate comes from. smart money is on us getting it wrong over and over and over HEY LOOK ITS HONEY BOO BOO!UNI88 wrote:
It's not a matter of someone beating hear but her beating herself. One of two things will prevent her nomination much less election:
1) The brighter the lights the more pronounced Hilary's warts become. The reality that she's a vindictive neo-con will be exposed and undermine her within her own party.
2) Her time has come and passed. She's going to have major health issues that will cause her to withdraw.
I don't know who the Dem nominee will be but I'm predicting that it won't be Hilary.
2. how dare you declare War on Women TM like that! how dare you question a woman's health!
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I made this point shortly after the whole Benghazi thing broke, only to be told by jellybean that that is just "video game" nonsense. Apparently getting assets to any part of the globe within a matter of hours only exists in video games. For all the billions wasted on defense we better damn well be able to place bombs, missiles, special ops on damn near any corner of the globe within a matter of hours if need be.CitadelGrad wrote:8 hours. That is the length of time between the start of the first attack and the the compound being overrun.dbackjon wrote:
They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies
Of course the narrative is that the military could not do anything in that amount of time, and dumbass, never-served-in-the-military, Obamabot fucks like you buy it.
There is not one place on this planet where the United States cannot drop a bomb in 8 hours. There are very few places on the planet where the United States can't put a cruise missile in 8 hours. I'm wondering if you considered the tactical air assets and airborne brigade that we have stationed in Italy. I guarantee you that we had at least one cruise missile-equipped destroyer in the Mediterranean that night -- and probably had much more. Of course we had special op asset inside Libya that were told to stand down and not allowed to go to Benghazi.
You don't just buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. You want and need to buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. It's the only way a pathetic, insecure fuck like you can get some affirmation.
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2016 is hers to lose. The "blame the previous guy" precedent has been set and unanimously approved by the head in the sand public. She can pawn any of her past actions as Sec of State off as being "Obama's call, not mine" mantra and it will be perfectly acceptable to the vast majority of the public.UNI88 wrote:I actually have a lot of respect for Hilary. She's an extremely intelligent and capable person. She's also a somewhat pragmatic neo-con chameleon who pursues power and influence with ruthless abandon. I think we would have likely been better off if she had won the nomination in 2008.CID1990 wrote:
1. Not sure where your confidence in the American electorate comes from. smart money is on us getting it wrong over and over and over HEY LOOK ITS HONEY BOO BOO!
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Link? When the fuck did I ever say that?SDHornet wrote: I made this point shortly after the whole Benghazi thing broke, only to be told by jellybean that that is just "video game" nonsense. Apparently getting assets to any part of the globe within a matter of hours only exists in video games. For all the billions wasted on defense we better damn well be able to place bombs, missiles, special ops on damn near any corner of the globe within a matter of hours if need be.
I don't believe that now... and, I have a hard time believing I ever said that before.
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you shouldnt spill so much ink missing the point ChitzChizzang wrote:CID1990 wrote:
2. how dare you declare War on Women TM like that! how dare you question a woman's health!
Yeah whatever...
How dare we question a Ranchers rights to free graze
Blah blah blah
Regarding womens rights - if men carried the baby you could get an abortion in the Airport
And that my friend you can BANK on
This is where I become a CARD carrying Liberal
You think RUSH Limbaugh and Sean Hannity would go to term and carry their baby (Yeeeeaaahhh sure)
age and health have been a concern in most presidential elections in recent memory- I remember the Carter people making an issue of it with Reagan
in all of those elections it has been fair game
im simply making a prediction here that if anyone dares to question hillarys age or health in 2016 there will be a MASS TIZZY
similar to the one you just had
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As you can seeCID1990 wrote:you shouldnt spill so much ink missing the point ChitzChizzang wrote:
Yeah whatever...
How dare we question a Ranchers rights to free graze
Blah blah blah
Regarding womens rights - if men carried the baby you could get an abortion in the Airport
And that my friend you can BANK on
This is where I become a CARD carrying Liberal
You think RUSH Limbaugh and Sean Hannity would go to term and carry their baby (Yeeeeaaahhh sure)
age and health have been a concern in most presidential elections in recent memory- I remember the Carter people making an issue of it with Reagan
in all of those elections it has been fair game
im simply making a prediction here that if anyone dares to question hillarys age or health in 2016 there will be a MASS TIZZY
similar to the one you just had
This whole Right Wing desire to have the Gov't stand between women and their doctors gets me pretty hopped up
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well now that we cleared that up and avoided turning this into that 'whole nother thread'Chizzang wrote:As you can seeCID1990 wrote:
you shouldnt spill so much ink missing the point Chitz
age and health have been a concern in most presidential elections in recent memory- I remember the Carter people making an issue of it with Reagan
in all of those elections it has been fair game
im simply making a prediction here that if anyone dares to question hillarys age or health in 2016 there will be a MASS TIZZY
similar to the one you just had
This whole Right Wing desire to have the Gov't stand between women and their doctors gets me pretty hopped up
you know good and well that the minute somebody questions Hill's health or age it is going to be an indignant feminist sh!tstorm of epic proportions
there will even be a hashtag like #howdareyou
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I can't wait I'm so excited for that..!!!CID1990 wrote:
you know good and well that the minute somebody questions Hill's health or age it is going to be an indignant feminist sh!tstorm of epic proportions
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My bad, it was houndy not you. Birds of a feather, you two are interchangeable anyways.Skjellyfetti wrote:Link? When the fuck did I ever say that?SDHornet wrote: I made this point shortly after the whole Benghazi thing broke, only to be told by jellybean that that is just "video game" nonsense. Apparently getting assets to any part of the globe within a matter of hours only exists in video games. For all the billions wasted on defense we better damn well be able to place bombs, missiles, special ops on damn near any corner of the globe within a matter of hours if need be.![]()
I don't believe that now... and, I have a hard time believing I ever said that before.
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#howdareyouChizzang wrote:I can't wait I'm so excited for that..!!!CID1990 wrote:
you know good and well that the minute somebody questions Hill's health or age it is going to be an indignant feminist sh!tstorm of epic proportions
good times ahead
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Yeah, you didn't say any of this:Chizzang wrote:My Deepness?SeattleGriz wrote:
Classic Cleets. Nobody understands your deepness, because nobody can figure out what you are saying.
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I've told you before. Your sentence structure sucks. You write like you are sending an intra-office memo. Commas are not forbidden.
whatever
The last time you didn't understand something I posted you asked me three different times on three different threads the same question and I answered it (over and over and over again) and you still didn't seem to get it - weirdest damn thing I've ever seen on here
My deepness or your thickness..?
I wonder
Chizzang wrote:Well, by definition "The Military" is a reeducation camp
How else do you turn a bunch of slack jawed 18 yr. old video game playing high school drop outs into a a finely tuned killing machine..?
Answer: reeducation
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Chizzang wrote:Volunteer..!!!![]()
How about LAST RESORT
I would guess 75% conservatively have ZERO interest in joining the Military
It just happens to be all there is left for them
Volunteer... (you crack me up CID)
By the way, nice backtrack and then subsequent exit on these little gems once those who have actually been in the military set you straight.Chizzang wrote:Yeah well...
I think you might be confusing the enthusiastic Citadel (Save the world from itself) crowd and the bottom feeding unemployed last resort get your GED crowd...
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As for the question of whether you had read the Bible, I distinctly asked you if you had read the ENTIRE Bible, not just "books of the Bible" and your answers lacked clarity. Took me multiple attempts to get that answer out of you.
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No you were just drunk on here 4 or 5 times in a row (which is fine)SeattleGriz wrote:Yeah, you didn't say any of this:Chizzang wrote:
My Deepness?
whatever
The last time you didn't understand something I posted you asked me three different times on three different threads the same question and I answered it (over and over and over again) and you still didn't seem to get it - weirdest damn thing I've ever seen on here
My deepness or your thickness..?
I wonder
Chizzang wrote:Well, by definition "The Military" is a reeducation camp
How else do you turn a bunch of slack jawed 18 yr. old video game playing high school drop outs into a a finely tuned killing machine..?
Answer: reeducation
Chizzang wrote:Volunteer..!!!![]()
How about LAST RESORT
I would guess 75% conservatively have ZERO interest in joining the Military
It just happens to be all there is left for them
Volunteer... (you crack me up CID)
By the way, nice backtrack and then subsequent exit on these little gems once those who have actually been in the military set you straight.Chizzang wrote:Yeah well...
I think you might be confusing the enthusiastic Citadel (Save the world from itself) crowd and the bottom feeding unemployed last resort get your GED crowd...
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As for the question of whether you had read the Bible, I distinctly asked you if you had read the ENTIRE Bible, not just "books of the Bible" and your answers lacked clarity. Took me multiple attempts to get that answer out of you.
but you couldn't remember my answers over and over again...
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It only counts as once if I ask it in the same thread while drinking!Chizzang wrote:No you were just drunk on here 4 or 5 times in a row (which is fine)SeattleGriz wrote:As for the question of whether you had read the Bible, I distinctly asked you if you had read the ENTIRE Bible, not just "books of the Bible" and your answers lacked clarity. Took me multiple attempts to get that answer out of you.
but you couldn't remember my answers over and over again...
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By the way, you owe us a midnight drunk rant or two.SeattleGriz wrote:It only counts as once if I ask it in the same thread while drinking!Chizzang wrote:
No you were just drunk on here 4 or 5 times in a row (which is fine)
but you couldn't remember my answers over and over again...
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I am due! Been going to work at 330 am and working 10 - 12 hour shifts lately.CAA Flagship wrote:By the way, you owe us a midnight drunk rant or two.SeattleGriz wrote:
It only counts as once if I ask it in the same thread while drinking!
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /12616549/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has completed the final phase of his reintegration at an Army hospital in Texas and will return to "regular duty," the Army confirmed Monday.
Bergdahl was released from Taliban captivity May 31 in a controversial trade for five Taliban commanders held at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They were released to the government of Qatar, where they must stay for a year.
Bergdahl was held captive by the Taliban for nearly five years after he went missing from his post in Afghanistan in 2009. As part of the reintegration process Bergdahl, 28, received therapy and counseling at an Army hospital in San Antonio, and will be assigned to the same base, Fort Sam Houston.
"He will now return to regular duty within the command where he can contribute to the mission," an Army statement said. "The Army investigation into the facts and circumstances surrounding the disappearance and capture of Bergdahl is still ongoing."
Bergdahl's new assignment will be "commensurate" with his rank, said Don Manuszewski, a spokesman for the Army in San Antonio. Bergdahl was promoted while in captivity.
He will be assigned administrative duties at the headquarters of U.S. Army North at Fort Sam Houston, the Army said.
A couple of soldiers will be assigned to help him transition to his new unit, as is customary for soldiers adjusting to a new unit, and will be assigned to a regular army barracks, the Army said.
"He'll have members of his unit working with him on a daily basis," said Col.Scott Bleichwehl, a spokesman for U.S. Army North. "This is what we do for every new soldier that comes to the unit."
Maj. Gen. Kenneth Dahl has been assigned to investigate Bergdahl's disappearance from his outpost. The Army had said the investigation would have to wait until Bergdahl's health improved.
An Army fact-finding investigation conducted in the months after Bergdahl's disappearance concluded that he walked away from his post of his own free will, CNN reported, citing an official who was shown the report.
But the report said there was no definitive conclusion that Bergdahl was a deserter because that would require knowing his intent — something officials couldn't learn without talking to him.
Bergdahl's return to service comes after the Obama administration drew sharp rebukes from many Republicans — and even some Democrats — in Congress for making the swap. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has been among those who expressed concern that the Guantanamo Bay detainees could return to the battlefield in Afghanistan and even kill Americans.
Last week Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., who heads the Senate Armed Services Committee, released letters from the Joint Chiefs expressing support for Bergdahl's "repatriation."
"Each of these military leaders emphasized a simple principle — America does not leave its troops behind," Levin said in a statement. "The unanimous support of the Joint Chiefs for securing Sgt. Bergdahl's release is a powerful statement on the importance of that commitment. I give great weight to their views, and I believe it's important for the American people to hear them."
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Dang...since his crap now smells like lilacs...send him to the Pentagon as armed security.

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Pentagon got duped, made ransom payment for Bowe Bergdahl to con man
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -bergdahl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So not only did Obama authorize trading a deserting weasel for 5 high ranking Taliban, he also 1st tried a ransom payment which the US got conned on.
Way to go Obama. Apparently Obama never got the message that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -bergdahl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So not only did Obama authorize trading a deserting weasel for 5 high ranking Taliban, he also 1st tried a ransom payment which the US got conned on.
Way to go Obama. Apparently Obama never got the message that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists..
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BDKJMU wrote:Pentagon got duped, made ransom payment for Bowe Bergdahl to con man
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -bergdahl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So not only did Obama authorize trading a deserting weasel for 5 high ranking Taliban, he also 1st tried a ransom payment which the US got conned on.![]()
Way to go Obama. Apparently Obama never got the message that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists..![]()
He was just following Ronnie's playbook.
Re: Bad precedent
C'mon Jon. You wouldn't teach a child it's ok to be wrong because someone else did it.dbackjon wrote:BDKJMU wrote:Pentagon got duped, made ransom payment for Bowe Bergdahl to con man
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -bergdahl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So not only did Obama authorize trading a deserting weasel for 5 high ranking Taliban, he also 1st tried a ransom payment which the US got conned on.![]()
Way to go Obama. Apparently Obama never got the message that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists..![]()
He was just following Ronnie's playbook.
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Ibanez wrote:C'mon Jon. You wouldn't teach a child it's ok to be wrong because someone else did it.dbackjon wrote:
He was just following Ronnie's playbook.
Obama didn't do anything wrong - got an American soldier home.
Reagan, on the other hand, committed treason with Iran-Contra
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FIFYdbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:
C'mon Jon. You wouldn't teach a child it's ok to be wrong because someone else did it.
Obama gave away the store to get a deserting weasel home.
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