"You don't protect my freedom."

[kalm]

Dumbshit christians taking their ball and going home.

That was on the cable last night.

[AZGrizFan]

Islam doesn't have the power or resources to take over the world. Thinking so betrays your paranoia and lack of understanding of basic geopolitics.

Goddamned uppity Muslins are growing more bold by the minute.

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd have told them "as soon as you people stop beheading folks for not believing, we'll give your "holy day" equal treatment. Until then, go suck it.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Goddamned uppity Muslins are growing more bold by the minute.

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd have told them "as soon as you people stop beheading folks for not believing, we'll give your "holy day" equal treatment. Until then, go suck it.

Can I also add "Use toilet paper" to the list?

[Chizzang]

Those guys ^ in that clip...
They are fighting for Rare Earth mining rights in Afghanistan
and an oil pipeline coming through



Senators and House Reps needs to watch this
Sometime before they snuggle up to our global corporations that ask them to "clear the way"

No, no they're not. They're fighting for the guy in the bunker next to them. Period. End of story. Ain't a single one of them fighting for anything else. They're fighting for their survival.

We're speaking of two different things...
You're responding to "What are they doing minute by minute"
I'm pointing out how they got there - why they were put there

Two different things...

[AZGrizFan]

I'd have told them "as soon as you people stop beheading folks for not believing, we'll give your "holy day" equal treatment. Until then, go suck it.

Can I also add "Use toilet paper" to the list?

Yes. Yes you may.

[houndawg]

Where were the riches in Vietnam?

On Michelin's rubber plantations.

At the time the South China Sea was considered to have possibly the world's largest unproven reserves of oil too. Standard Oil needed Cam Rahn Bay and a puppet government.

[houndawg]

I'm actually leaving for Arlington Cemetary in 30 minutes for the funeral of a two star army general. I'll make sure to tell all the people I see today that most of you guys think they are worthless.

Do you think everybody should kiss your ass because you're a vet, Hen?

[houndawg]

Said just about every world ruler south of Austria from 600 until around 1295 AD. The entire geopolitical landscape is as much shaped by the Islamic expansion as it is by the Roman or British Empires.

Nailed it. Anyone who thinks Islam doesn’t have the resources, or has never tried, or won’t try to take over the world has no grasp of world history.

[JohnStOnge]

Is that ^ our job..?
To decide which religions and which races to eradicate

No John... Its not

I don't think I said anything about races. But when it comes to religions: Why not?

Religion is a behavior. I realize that we have a tradition of freedom of religion. But it's as others have said: If you have a religion that calls for human sacrifice, are you going to say it's OK or are you going to say you need to get rid of it?

We need to get rid of Islam. We really do. And, frankly, I can't believe there are so many people who are not Muslims that don't recognize it. If you want to say Christianity is whacked, that's fine. But Christianity isn't the threat Islam is. Islam is totally insane. And it's insane in a way that threatens liberty in a way that no other religion does in the contemporary context.

We need to feel free to say it's dangerous nonsense and that the world would be a lot better place if it were eliminated.

[houndawg]

Watch this movie and you'll understand that concept 100%
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGhIr2G2POA[/youtube]

Those guys ^ in that clip...
They are fighting for Rare Earth mining rights in Afghanistan
and an oil pipeline coming through



Senators and House Reps needs to watch this
Sometime before they snuggle up to our global corporations that ask them to "clear the way"

Exactly. Now why don't they just tell us the truth?

They have a valid strategic argument they can wear as a veneer over their greed: Many of those rare earth elements are currently monopolized by China and our war machine won't work without them because we use them in places like the inside of jet engines. Makes a much stronger argument than these bald-faced lies about democracy and women and terrorists from Saudi Arabia and stuff...

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Those guys ^ in that clip...
They are fighting for Rare Earth mining rights in Afghanistan
and an oil pipeline coming through



Senators and House Reps needs to watch this
Sometime before they snuggle up to our global corporations that ask them to "clear the way"

Exactly. Now why don't they just tell us the truth?

They have a valid strategic argument they can wear as a veneer over their greed: Many of those rare earth elements are currently monopolized by China and our war machine won't work without them because we use them in places like the inside of jet engines. Makes a much stronger argument than these bald-faced lies about democracy and women and terrorists from Saudi Arabia and stuff...

I will tell you a true story about a woman that my unit came across in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. The woman had 2 broken arms and was beaten pretty badly. The Republican Guard had come into a little town just south of Safwan and killed her husband and son and driven off or killed anyone that resisted. They had been raping her and beating her for days when they heard the US was coming in and promptly ran their sorry asses north. I still don't' know why they didn't kill her but they didn't. This woman was an Iraqi. They were a really good bunch of guys weren't they? The kind you want living next to you? The kind that should be allowed to continue to suck air? . So tell me, one more time, why I was there because I guess I don't know.

[kalm]

Is that ^ our job..?
To decide which religions and which races to eradicate

No John... Its not

I don't think I said anything about races. But when it comes to religions: Why not?

Religion is a behavior. I realize that we have a tradition of freedom of religion. But it's as others have said: If you have a religion that calls for human sacrifice, are you going to say it's OK or are you going to say you need to get rid of it?

We need to get rid of Islam. We really do. And, frankly, I can't believe there are so many people who are not Muslims that don't recognize it. If you want to say Christianity is whacked, that's fine. But Christianity isn't the threat Islam is. Islam is totally insane. And it's insane in a way that threatens liberty in a way that no other religion does in the contemporary context.

We need to feel free to say it's dangerous nonsense and that the world would be a lot better place if it were eliminated.

It's dangerous nonsense. There I said it.

Now, where do we start and where do we stop? I've heard the sufi's are peaceful. Do they escape the attack? How about Turkey? Someone else mentioned Dearborn, I think.

Do we say fuck it and do it all at once, or do we give the planet a rest in between assaults?

[JohnStOnge]

It's dangerous nonsense. There I said it.

Now, where do we start and where do we stop? I've heard the sufi's are peaceful. Do they escape the attack? How about Turkey? Someone else mentioned Dearborn, I think.

Do we say **** it and do it all at once, or do we give the planet a rest in between assaults?

At the very least we openly say that Islam is crap and we think it should be discouraged. We go ahead and say that it is NOT a religion of peace but is rather clearly one of violence. Since we have the first Amendment we don't say it's illegal to be Muslim but we go ahead and say that if you're a Muslim you're an idiot and you need to re consider your position. We need to go ahead and call a spade a spade. That's a start, at least.

[BDKJMU]

Islam doesn't have the power or resources to take over the world. Thinking so betrays your paranoia and lack of understanding of basic geopolitics.

Goddamned uppity Muslins are growing more bold by the minute.

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a bunch of BS. Christmas is a federal holiday. The school should be acknowledging all federal holidays and no others.

[kalm]

Goddamned uppity Muslins are growing more bold by the minute.

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a bunch of BS. Christmas is a federal holiday. The school should be acknowledging all federal holidays and no others.

Christmas is a secular holiday, stolen from the pagans and allowed to wallow in commercialism by the christians.

And I agree this is totally silly, but schools are afraid of litigation and it's an easier path to take rather than having to acknowledge all religions.

[YoUDeeMan]

I will tell you a true story about a woman that my unit came across in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. The woman had 2 broken arms and was beaten pretty badly. The Republican Guard had come into a little town just south of Safwan and killed her husband and son and driven off or killed anyone that resisted. They had been raping her and beating her for days when they heard the US was coming in and promptly ran their sorry asses north. I still don't' know why they didn't kill her but they didn't. This woman was an Iraqi. They were a really good bunch of guys weren't they? The kind you want living next to you? The kind that should be allowed to continue to suck air? . So tell me, one more time, why I was there because I guess I don't know.

No offense, but your story means squat in relation to why we are in really Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or anyplace else.

Otherwise, mount up and go into Detroit this weekend and protect the innocent people there.

[∞∞∞]

Is that ^ our job..?
To decide which religions and which races to eradicate

No John... Its not

I don't think I said anything about races. But when it comes to religions: Why not?

Religion is a behavior. I realize that we have a tradition of freedom of religion. But it's as others have said: If you have a religion that calls for human sacrifice, are you going to say it's OK or are you going to say you need to get rid of it?

We need to get rid of Islam. We really do. And, frankly, I can't believe there are so many people who are not Muslims that don't recognize it. If you want to say Christianity is whacked, that's fine. But Christianity isn't the threat Islam is. Islam is totally insane. And it's insane in a way that threatens liberty in a way that no other religion does in the contemporary context.

We need to feel free to say it's dangerous nonsense and that the world would be a lot better place if it were eliminated.

Seriously, how do you get rid of an idea? How do you destroy thoughts? You can kill every Christian and the concept of Christianity would still exist. You can kill every Muslim and the concept of Islam would still exist.

You can argue that religions have been completely snuffed out before, but it's been during eras where religions were isolated. Our world is completely interconnected today; religions (and ideas in general) don't just die anymore. Hell, even concepts such as Paganism which were completely suppressed for centuries have re-emerged in the last few decades.

For someone who advocates a small gov't, you sound like Big Brother.

[AZGrizFan]

What a bunch of BS. Christmas is a federal holiday. The school should be acknowledging all federal holidays and no others.

Christmas is a secular holiday, stolen from the pagans and allowed to wallow in commercialism by the christians.

I bet it's a joy around your house in late December.

[kalm]

Christmas is a secular holiday, stolen from the pagans and allowed to wallow in commercialism by the christians.

I bet it's a joy around your house in late December.

If by joy you mean tons of gifts, food, booze, and sledding...then yes.

I've been assimilated...

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I will tell you a true story about a woman that my unit came across in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. The woman had 2 broken arms and was beaten pretty badly. The Republican Guard had come into a little town just south of Safwan and killed her husband and son and driven off or killed anyone that resisted. They had been raping her and beating her for days when they heard the US was coming in and promptly ran their sorry asses north. I still don't' know why they didn't kill her but they didn't. This woman was an Iraqi. They were a really good bunch of guys weren't they? The kind you want living next to you? The kind that should be allowed to continue to suck air? . So tell me, one more time, why I was there because I guess I don't know.

No offense, but your story means squat in relation to why we are in really Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or anyplace else.

Otherwise, mount up and go into Detroit this weekend and protect the innocent people there.

I don't take offense to what anyone says on a forum. But if you don't think we did good there you are delusional and my story is exactly what Dog said doesn't happen so it is a valid point. There are always lots of reason we go, national interest, resources, people etc. I know the reason I went and anyone that doesn't like my own reasons can kindly go fuck themselves. No thanks needed.

If our wonderful leaders made the decision to go into Detroit and take it back, I would gladly go and I don't think you would have a shortage of people that would go too. Elect better leadership.

[YoUDeeMan]

No offense, but your story means squat in relation to why we are in really Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or anyplace else.

Otherwise, mount up and go into Detroit this weekend and protect the innocent people there.

I don't take offense to what anyone says on a forum. But if you don't think we did good there you are delusional and my story is exactly what Dog said doesn't happen so it is a valid point. There are always lots of reason we go, national interest, resources, people etc. I know the reason I went and anyone that doesn't like my own reasons can kindly go fuck themselves. No thanks needed.

If our wonderful leaders made the decision to go into Detroit and take it back, I would gladly go and I don't think you would have a shortage of people that would go too. Elect better leadership.

Sorry, but you aren't making any sense.

If people like you went to Iraq to save innocent people from bad guys, then people like you should continue to do that same job today wherever you are. And you should do it without regard to what the government says.

Instead, you chose to save people only when ordered to save people...and would do it again only when ordered to again.

When our government is sending in our guys to support an oppressive regime such as Saudi Arabia, while eliminating a much more secular regime such as Assad's, then we are NOT protect the interests of innocent people, despite a few individual stories. I'm quite sure some soldiers in Nazi Germany did a kid, or an innocent woman a favor...that doesn't mean they should have been invading Poland or the Soviet Union to do it.

And no, I didn't compare you directly to a Nazi. The problem is that individual soldiers continue to say that they are only obeying orders, while keeping their own personal reasons for killing people separate from the government's intent.

Hogwash. As a soldier, you are simply an expendable tool used for the purpose of someone else's profit.

It is time we call our government out for what it really does. If you want to say you fight to keep the American way, then fine...but realize that the American way includes destroying the lives, and taking the lives, of large numbers of people so that we can live our lives of relative comfort.

It is comical on a global scale that most Democrats and liberals are actually supporting the annihilation of others less fortunate than themselves, while at the same time, screaming that Republicans don't care about people less fortunate than themselves.

[AZGrizFan]

I bet it's a joy around your house in late December.

If by joy you mean tons of gifts, food, booze, and sledding...then yes.

I've been assimilated...

Nothing I like better than a massive hypocrite.

[houndawg]

Is that ^ our job..?
To decide which religions and which races to eradicate

No John... Its not

I don't think I said anything about races. But when it comes to religions: Why not?

Religion is a behavior. I realize that we have a tradition of freedom of religion. But it's as others have said: If you have a religion that calls for human sacrifice, are you going to say it's OK or are you going to say you need to get rid of it?

We need to get rid of Islam. We really do. And, frankly, I can't believe there are so many people who are not Muslims that don't recognize it. If you want to say Christianity is whacked, that's fine. But Christianity isn't the threat Islam is. Islam is totally insane. And it's insane in a way that threatens liberty in a way that no other religion does in the contemporary context.

We need to feel free to say it's dangerous nonsense and that the world would be a lot better place if it were eliminated.

Islam doesn't kill people. People kill people.


Love to hear you expand on how you'd accomplish this a bit more, John. How exactly does your "final solution" work?

[BDKJMU]

What a bunch of BS. Christmas is a federal holiday. The school should be acknowledging all federal holidays and no others.

Christmas is a secular holiday, stolen from the pagans and allowed to wallow in commercialism by the christians.

And I agree this is totally silly, but schools are afraid of litigation and it's an easier path to take rather than having to acknowledge all religions.

Schools can easily defend only celebrating/acknowledging federal holidays.

[kalm]

If by joy you mean tons of gifts, food, booze, and sledding...then yes.

I've been assimilated...

Nothing I like better than a massive hypocrite.

Hey! I just referenced the Necronomicon and it said gifts, food, booze, and sledding we're cool!

PM me your addy and I'll send down some pinecone/wax fire starters and a bottle of mead!