Dean: "Where the Hell Is the Democratic Party?"

[kalm]

Can someone name the last fiscal conservative president we elected into office..?
This is a serious question please

I'll just wait right here...

Clinton post the midterms in 1994 when he handed the economy over to Rubin and Greenspan?

Must...not...bite...

[Chizzang]

Clinton post the midterms in 1994 when he handed the economy over to Rubin and Greenspan?

Must...not...bite...

kalm...



BTW: The first person to answer Ronald Reagan loses

[CAA Flagship]

I Like Ike.

[Grizalltheway]

I Like Ike.

He was more liberal than Obama.

[CAA Flagship]

I Like Ike.

He was more liberal than Obama.

Don't ever compare Ike to Obama. Ike made some of the toughest decisions any person has made in the world during the 20th Century. The toughest decision Obama ever made was whether to go for the green or lay up.

[Ivytalk]

Can someone name the last fiscal conservative president we elected into office..?
This is a serious question please

I'll just wait right here...

Calvin Coolidge.

Yo, Chizzang, here's your answer! I don't usually quote my own posts, but...

[Grizalltheway]

He was more liberal than Obama.

Don't ever compare Ike to Obama. Ike made some of the toughest decisions any person has made in the world during the 20th Century. The toughest decision Obama ever made was whether to go for the green or lay up.

Settle down, Captain America. I respect the hell out of Ike for his wartime leadership. He was also the last President really worth a damn.

[Chizzang]

Calvin Coolidge.

Yo, Chizzang, here's your answer! I don't usually quote my own posts, but...

I "heart" You...

[GannonFan]

Clinton post the midterms in 1994 when he handed the economy over to Rubin and Greenspan?

Must...not...bite...

Free trade baby!

[AZGrizFan]

Can someone name the last fiscal conservative president we elected into office..?
This is a serious question please

I'll just wait right here...

A fiscal conservative president is like Bigfoot. We THINK they exist, but we've never seen one to be certain.

[Cap'n Cat]

Says it all, kids -


"Republicans have no mandate because they offered no agenda. Republicans reaped the rewards of McConnell’s scorched-earth strategy, obstructing President Obama relentlessly, helping to create the failure that voters would pin on the party in power. But the collateral damage is that the ‘party of “no’” has no agreement on what is yes…. McConnell leads into a power a party truly unfit and unready to govern. The wingnuts at the Party base want power only to dismantle, not to govern."

Katrina vanden Heuvel in the Washington Post.

[Cap'n Cat]

Don't ever compare Ike to Obama. Ike made some of the toughest decisions any person has made in the world during the 20th Century. The toughest decision Obama ever made was whether to go for the green or lay up.

Settle down, Captain America. I respect the hell out of Ike for his wartime leadership. He was also the last President really worth a damn.

Better read a little deeper. That cocksucker was not even mediocre as a prez. Stupid fuck rode his own coattails. Dumped a recession and Vietnam on Kennedy……

Learning frees the mind, boy.

[AZGrizFan]

Says it all, kids -


"Republicans have no mandate because they offered no agenda. Republicans reaped the rewards of McConnell’s scorched-earth strategy, obstructing President Obama relentlessly, helping to create the failure that voters would pin on the party in power. But the collateral damage is that the ‘party of “no’” has no agreement on what is yes…. McConnell leads into a power a party truly unfit and unready to govern. The wingnuts at the Party base want power only to dismantle, not to govern."

Katrina vanden Heuvel in the Washington Post.

They learned from their predecessors.

[houndawg]

"The Republican message was, 'We're not Obama.' No substance whatsoever,"

There's plenty of substance to that. Obama wants to take the country in the wrong direction. If the message is "we want to obstruct Obama" that's a substantive message. You have a guy in power who has a completely wrong headed view of the world and the role of government. If your message is that you don't want him to succeed in changing things the way he wants to change things, you don't want him getting any Supreme Court nominees on the Court, etc., that's a substantive message.

[CAA Flagship]

Balanced Budget Talk:

http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-big-lie ... l-budgets/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.cato.org/publications/commen ... ced-budget" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Ivytalk]

Says it all, kids -


"Republicans have no mandate because they offered no agenda. Republicans reaped the rewards of McConnell’s scorched-earth strategy, obstructing President Obama relentlessly, helping to create the failure that voters would pin on the party in power. But the collateral damage is that the ‘party of “no’” has no agreement on what is yes…. McConnell leads into a power a party truly unfit and unready to govern. The wingnuts at the Party base want power only to dismantle, not to govern."

Katrina vanden Heuvel in the Washington Post.

Uberliberal Khundt.

[kalm]

Must...not...bite...

Free trade baby!

OK…now you've done it.

I'll just leave this here…

[Baldy]

Says it all, kids -


"Republicans have no mandate because they offered no agenda. Republicans reaped the rewards of McConnell’s scorched-earth strategy, obstructing President Obama relentlessly, helping to create the failure that voters would pin on the party in power. But the collateral damage is that the ‘party of “no’” has no agreement on what is yes…. McConnell leads into a power a party truly unfit and unready to govern. The wingnuts at the Party base want power only to dismantle, not to govern."

Katrina vanden Heuvel in the Washington Post.

Lotsa elitist 'progressive' butthurt on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.


...also Minnesota.

[GannonFan]

Free trade baby!

OK…now you've done it.

I'll just leave this here…

They ended up being correct. They knew that there were a bunch of stupid people in the world and that eventually those people would end up buying derivatives and other crap that they didn't understand and would underestimate the risks. Of course, they were also right on other things, like free trade.

[GannonFan]

Says it all, kids -


"Republicans have no mandate because they offered no agenda. Republicans reaped the rewards of McConnell’s scorched-earth strategy, obstructing President Obama relentlessly, helping to create the failure that voters would pin on the party in power. But the collateral damage is that the ‘party of “no’” has no agreement on what is yes…. McConnell leads into a power a party truly unfit and unready to govern. The wingnuts at the Party base want power only to dismantle, not to govern."

Katrina vanden Heuvel in the Washington Post.

And how is that any different than how the Democrats rode to landslide victories in 2008 (and then to suffer their own landslide losses two years later in 2010)?

[kalm]

OK…now you've done it.

I'll just leave this here…

They ended up being correct. They knew that there were a bunch of stupid people in the world and that eventually those people would end up buying derivatives and other crap that they didn't understand and would underestimate the risks. Of course, they were also right on other things, like free trade.

Huh? That doesn't make sense. Are you saying they knowingly created the Great Recession?

Regarding free trade, they were right as it pertains to multinationals. Woopity doo!

REP. HENRY WAXMAN (D), California: And my question for you is simple: Were you wrong?

ALAN GREENSPAN: Partially.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Democrats on the committee, led by the chairman, Henry Waxman of California, pressed Greenspan on whether his fundamental economic philosophy was mistaken.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: The question I have for you is, you had an ideology, you had a belief that free, competitive — and this is your statement — “I do have an ideology. My judgment is that free, competitive markets are by far the unrivaled way to organize economies. We’ve tried regulation. None meaningfully worked.” That was your quote.

You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis. You were advised to do so by many others. And now our whole economy is paying its price.

Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?

ALAN GREENSPAN: Well, remember that what an ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality. Everyone has one. You have to — to exist, you need an ideology. The question is whether it is accurate or not.

And what I’m saying to you is, yes, I found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is, but I’ve been very distressed by that fact.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: You found a flaw in the reality…

ALAN GREENSPAN: Flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working?

ALAN GREENSPAN: That is — precisely. No, that’s precisely the reason I was shocked, because I had been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.

JUDY WOODRUFF: When he was Fed chair, Greenspan made many appearances before congressional committees and was generally treated with deference. His opinion was widely sought and his words heeded.

But today, in the aftermath of the financial meltdown, Greenspan faced a much rougher reception from Democrats.

Ohio’s Dennis Kucinich.

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH (D), Ohio: ÂNow, Mr. Greenspan, before the collapse of the housing bubble, didn’t you also say that the U.S. has not experienced housing slumps to justify your policy that there would be no bubble? And can you tell this committee when it occurred to you that there was a housing bubble?

ALAN GREENSPAN: I knew — the housing bubble became clear to me sometime in early 2006, in retrospect. I did not forecast a significant decline because we had never had a significant decline in prices.

And it’s only as the process began to emerge that it became clear that we were about to have what essentially was a global decline in home prices

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business ... ing_10-23/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[YoUDeeMan]

Does the word "likely" mean anything to you? Based on your posts some could assume that you were pro Obama both times (but I at least get half credit for 2008 ) - that was my apparently incorrect interpretation of the substance of many of your posts.

I've never gotten that sense from GF's posts.

Good point.

The GFY post usually come from the tolerant Left once they get a majority.