Proud Potheads Pushback: Public Perceives Problem "Stoners"

[Grizalltheway]

He died of a heart attack while scuba diving IIRC.

Scuba Diving?
No.

Last week, in the early morning hours of Wed., Aug. 9, Garcia's heart, 53 years old and ravaged by years of drug abuse and related health problems, gave out on him. The guitarist's comatose body was found before dawn during a routine bed check by a counselor at the Serenity Knolls drug treatment center in the San Francisco Bay Area town of Forest Knolls, where Garcia had checked in after an apparent relapse into a heroin addiction that had plagued him for years. Garcia was pronounced dead at 4:23 a.m. after a staff nurse and a Marin County paramedic each failed to revive him with CPR. "It was clearly a heart attack," says longtime Grateful Dead spokesman Dennis McNally, an opinion supported by the Marin County coroner's preliminary finding that the death "appears to be from natural causes."

"I will more than miss him," says old San Francisco pal Joe McDonald, whose band, Country Joe & the Fish, was a Dead contemporary. "It's just terrible. There's a lesson here. It's a failure to get him to change his lifestyle. He could easily be alive today. He killed himself, make no mistake."

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I'm not a doctor, but I'm going to guess the coke and smack had more to do with that than pot.

[CAA Flagship]

Scuba Diving?
No.



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I'm not a doctor, but I'm going to guess the coke and smack had more to do with that than pot.

True, you are not a doctor.

[Grizalltheway]

Hey, at least I can admit it, unlike your know-it-all ass.

[CAA Flagship]

Hey, at least I can admit it, unlike your know-it-all ass.

Yes, you admitted it, but gave your unprofessional opinion anyway.

[Grizalltheway]

Hey, at least I can admit it, unlike your know-it-all ass.

Yes, you admitted it, but gave your unprofessional opinion anyway.

You mean like you've been doing for this entire thread?

[CAA Flagship]

Here is an interesting story:
A friend of mine is tasked with determining if smoking pot at lunch time would violate a company policy forbidding intoxication in the workplace. The office is located where recreational pot use has been legalized.
Here is the dilemma: It's not unusual to have a beer at lunch, including with clients. But we all know what the effects of having one beer is. But what about pot? Is there a reason to smoke a small amount of pot without feeling the effects? The feeling is that one beer at lunch is not much more than a flavored drink that helps wash down the food. Can a small amount of pot have a similar purpose?

He is seeking legal advice on this as it pertains to any changes that may be necessary for the company policy.

Thoughts?

[89Hen]

one beer at lunch is not much more than a flavored drink that helps wash down the food.

You do drink Bud Light...

[Grizalltheway]

Here is an interesting story:
A friend of mine is tasked with determining if smoking pot at lunch time would violate a company policy forbidding intoxication in the workplace. The office is located where recreational pot use has been legalized.
Here is the dilemma: It's not unusual to have a beer at lunch, including with clients. But we all know what the effects of having one beer is. But what about pot? Is there a reason to smoke a small amount of pot without feeling the effects? The feeling is that one beer at lunch is not much more than a flavored drink that helps wash down the food. Can a small amount of pot have a similar purpose?

He is seeking legal advice on this as it pertains to any changes that may be necessary for the company policy.

Thoughts?

All depends on your tolerence, how frequently you smoke, potency of the weed you're smoking, etc. People who use frequently and are used to the effects would probably be okay, but with someone who's never smoked before, or hasn't done it for a really long time, a couple hits of the strong stuff would be enough to put them in a stupor for the rest of the afternoon.

That being said, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

[CAA Flagship]

one beer at lunch is not much more than a flavored drink that helps wash down the food.

You do drink Bud Light...

I was wondering how long that would take.
Still, even if you drink one 12% beer with lunch, you will hardly be "intoxicated".

[CAA Flagship]

Here is an interesting story:
A friend of mine is tasked with determining if smoking pot at lunch time would violate a company policy forbidding intoxication in the workplace. The office is located where recreational pot use has been legalized.
Here is the dilemma: It's not unusual to have a beer at lunch, including with clients. But we all know what the effects of having one beer is. But what about pot? Is there a reason to smoke a small amount of pot without feeling the effects? The feeling is that one beer at lunch is not much more than a flavored drink that helps wash down the food. Can a small amount of pot have a similar purpose?

He is seeking legal advice on this as it pertains to any changes that may be necessary for the company policy.

Thoughts?

All depends on your tolerence, how frequently you smoke, potency of the weed you're smoking, etc. People who use frequently and are used to the effects would probably be okay, but with someone who's never smoked before, or hasn't done it for a really long time, a couple hits of the strong stuff would be enough to put them in a stupor for the rest of the afternoon.

That being said, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

I don't disagree.
But they are trying to figure out if there is a need to say no to pot. Again, it's not unusual to have a drink with a meal. It helps to digest the food. And if that drink is a beer, it won't push you over the legal limit. But he is struggling to determine a similar reason to smoke pot in a small amount.

[Grizalltheway]

All depends on your tolerence, how frequently you smoke, potency of the weed you're smoking, etc. People who use frequently and are used to the effects would probably be okay, but with someone who's never smoked before, or hasn't done it for a really long time, a couple hits of the strong stuff would be enough to put them in a stupor for the rest of the afternoon.

That being said, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

I don't disagree.
But they are trying to figure out if there is a need to say no to pot. Again, it's not unusual to have a drink with a meal. It helps to digest the food. And if that drink is a beer, it won't push you over the legal limit. But he is struggling to determine a similar reason to smoke pot in a small amount.

Depending on what kind of work the company's employees are doing, I would lean towards a blanket 'no' on lunch time toking. Like I said, just too many variables at play.

[89Hen]

Again, it's not unusual to have a drink with a meal. It helps to digest the food. And if that drink is a beer, it won't push you over the legal limit. But he is struggling to determine a similar reason to smoke pot in a small amount.

It's not unusual, but it is unnecessary. A beer with lunch at a work function is a "social" drink. Same could be said for a toke or two. If it makes your client happy, it's a "social" toke and could help your company's position.

[andy7171]

3) I forget what 3 was for...

Making babies.

[travelinman67]

Pot Growers stealing water from lakes, waterways causing massive environmental damage...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigation ... 22141.html

[kalm]

Pot Growers stealing water from lakes, waterways causing massive environmental damage...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigation ... 22141.html

1.2 billion gallons is almost nothing.

[89Hen]

Pot Growers stealing water from lakes, waterways causing massive environmental damage...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigation ... 22141.html

1.2 billion gallons is almost nothing.

Yeah! Mrs Kalm needs her weed.

[houndawg]

Need to replace "stoners" in the title with "puffers"...

[travelinman67]

Pot Growers stealing water from lakes, waterways causing massive environmental damage...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigation ... 22141.html

1.2 billion gallons is almost nothing.

One of my favorite trout fishing streams is dried up and gone because of illegal water theft from pot growers. There needs to be greater enforcement of water rights.

[kalm]

1.2 billion gallons is almost nothing.

One of my favorite trout fishing streams is dried up and gone because of illegal water theft from pot growers. There needs to be greater enforcement of water rights.

That sucks, but surely you're not endorsing government regulation are you? One of my favorite trout streams dried up and is gone because of legal water theft from farmers and ranchers.

[travelinman67]

One of my favorite trout fishing streams is dried up and gone because of illegal water theft from pot growers. There needs to be greater enforcement of water rights.

That sucks, but surely you're not endorsing government regulation are you? One of my favorite trout streams dried up and is gone because of legal water theft from farmers and ranchers.

Like the Deputies killed two weeks back, the responsibles are illegal alien mexican Cartel members. End the illegal immigration and the problem disappears.
Vote out the Donks and the immigration problem vanishes.

It's that simple.

If you are serious about environmental protection, vote out the Donks.

[kalm]

That sucks, but surely you're not endorsing government regulation are you? One of my favorite trout streams dried up and is gone because of legal water theft from farmers and ranchers.

Like the Deputies killed two weeks back, the responsibles are illegal alien mexican Cartel members. End the illegal immigration and the problem disappears.
Vote out the Donks and the immigration problem vanishes.

It's that simple.

If you are serious about environmental protection, vote out the Donks.

[JohnStOnge]

Here is the dilemma: It's not unusual to have a beer at lunch, including with clients. But we all know what the effects of having one beer is. But what about pot? Is there a reason to smoke a small amount of pot without feeling the effects?

You do feel the effects of one beer provided it's a real beer. And you'll feel the effects of pot even if you just take one hit.

But I can tell you that I went through college smoking pot throughout. I'd get up in the morning, have my coffee, and take a couple of hits out of a bong. Then I'd carry some pot and a Dr. Grabow to school with me. I'd take single hits from my Dr. Grabow between classes and such.

One time I even rolled a joint and walked across campus smoking it as though it was a cigarette to see if anybody would notice. Finally somebody did but they were friends so it was OK.

I made it through a reasonably difficult curriculum (biology) and also worked a full time job at the same time and never had any problems with that.

I do think a person can function reasonably well while smoking small amounts of marijuana.

[houndawg]

You do drink Bud Light...

I was wondering how long that would take.
Still, even if you drink one 12% beer with lunch, you will hardly be "intoxicated".

12% is barley wine.

[travelinman67]

Yes, let's legalize, then tax pot. We can use the revenue for the public good...

....or piss it down the drain on inane, nanny statist "public education" projects that spin drug abuse into a public good.

http://m.gazette.com/weed-101-colorado- ... eed/192859

[Chizzang]

Yes, let's legalize, then tax pot. We can use the revenue for the public good...

....or piss it down the drain on inane, nanny statist "public education" projects that spin drug abuse into a public good.

http://m.gazette.com/weed-101-colorado- ... eed/192859

Seems like sage advice...