Playoff Teams?

[89Hen]

Where did I rant or rave about Coastal? If they win out, they have an automatic bid.

Not saying that you did but it seems that people do (#2 in the nation). I'm just scratching my head to why we wouldn't make it after going 8-4 and having the #3 Toughest Schedule in FCS according to the NCAA.

You'd have the 3rd toughest schedule because of the teams to which you LOST.

[dbackjon]

You all and the committee just keep sleeping on my Flames. But that's ok we enjoy being underdogs .

Maybe you'll get that chance, but there's also a great chance that you will end up at 8-4 with wins over Norfolk, Brevard, Bryant... and 0-3 vs playoff caliber teams. AppSt will be your lone good win.

I wouldn't call App a good win

[JohnStOnge]

McNeese

I am hoping and pulling for it but I wouldn't bet on it. At this point injuries have taken:

1) All three running backs who appeared on the depth chart for the season opener at Nebraska.

2) The three best wide receivers.

3) At least two of the starting offensive linemen who opened the season at Nebraska.

4) The defensive back who got the long interception return against Nebraska.

5) I think they probably lost the freshman running back they took the redshirt off of after the three who were on the depth chart to open the season got hurt. He was looking pretty good and got 91 yards on 11 carries through the first possession of the second half against Northwestern State this past weekend. Then all of a sudden he disappeared from the lineup and the coach tried playing the guy who started season #1 but said after the game that he's still limping but they had to play him because they were running out of players. The freshman got two more carries for one years each later on one series but that was it.

This paragraph on comments by the head coach after the Northwestern State game says it all:

"We were running out of players," said Viator. "We had a couple of offensive linemen come out the game and Bennett was still limping. We were just running out of guys to be honest with you."

Oh...and the Kansas State transfer QB Daniel Sams has a hip pointer. He played but he was obviously way below 100% when trying to run the ball. And his running ability is what makes him really dangerous when he's healthy.

Nothing's impossible and they're in good position mathematically but it's going to be awfully tough with them being as depleted as they are.

[BDKJMU]

Don't get me wrong, I was completely befuddled as to what do to with the MEAC, but do you see the issue? Bethune and NCAT are both ranked ahead of SCSt and very well could be 10-2 (if either aren't this is moot) so who do you put in?

BTW, I know I will have several teams not make it from my list.

Well, the MEAC will get two max - how the committee sorts that out will be up to them, but there's no way they put the 3rd in.

Yep. All 3 of those MEAC played a Div II, and NC A&T also dnp a I-A.

[BDKJMU]

JMU will be favored in 2 of their next 3 (@ SBU, @ UR, and Elon). If win 2 of 3 to finish 8-4/5-3 will get in as 4th CAA.

[Ibanez]

Maybe you'll get that chance, but there's also a great chance that you will end up at 8-4 with wins over Norfolk, Brevard, Bryant... and 0-3 vs playoff caliber teams. AppSt will be your lone good win.

In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.

Coastal no longer schedules FBS teams. We don't need the money.

[TribePride]

Where is the 4th CAA bid going to come from? There are 13 at large bids. MVFC is going to take at least 3, possibly 4. Big Sky will get 3, possibly 4.

Make your argument for 4 teams by eliminating someone else.
At Large Slots
MVFC 3
Big Sky 3
CAA 2
Big South 1
Ohio 1
Southland 2
MEAC 1

The MEAC could get 3 teams, I don't think they should, but they could. The Big Sky getting 4 leaves out someone that is 8-4 or 9-3. Same for the MVFC. Perhaps you could argue Liberty will miss at 8-4, but if they beat Coastal, they are both going. If you give all 3 of the BS, MVFC, and CAA 4 bids(there are only 4 other at large bids left. I don't think the committee is going to do that. However, if they win out to go 9-3, I think they are in(no CAA team has ever gone 6-2(9-3 overall) and been left out. Stony Brook could go 6-2 and get left out because of their poor nonconference record.

[TribePride]

In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.

Coastal no longer schedules FBS teams. We don't need the money.

Coastal is going even if they lose to Liberty. All the bubble teams need to hope Liberty doesn't win the conference(and they easily could).

[TribePride]

The Tribe won't be on the list even at 8-4, 5-3 due to our inability to finish off Villanova or JMU in the 4th quarter. Our only sliver of hope is 2013 NH, which got in by winning the last 3 games at 7-4 and took a run to the semis. We would have to destroy our last 3 opponents including Richmond and hope for JMU to lose to both Stony Brook and UR or have Richmond lose all 3 of their final games. Neither is going to happen. We helped NH get in last year by losing to both Towson and Richmond in our final two games. Delaware also collapsed leaving NH as the 3rd CAA team.

All the leagues have scheduling benefits(ie not playing all the strong teams). We missed on Rhode Island and Albany while New Hampshire avoided JMU and Villanova. Not exactly equal this year and particularly painful since the Wildcats crushed us this year.

[Dizzy_King]

In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.

Coastal no longer schedules FBS teams. We don't need the money.

Oh wow didn't know that. I actually see Coastal moving to FBS conference in the near future. Maybe CUSA

[Ibanez]

Coastal no longer schedules FBS teams. We don't need the money.

Coastal is going even if they lose to Liberty. All the bubble teams need to hope Liberty doesn't win the conference(and they easily could).[/quote
Yeah. Coastal doesn't play FBS schools because we are focusing on playing and beating the best FCS teams that we can schedule. This is our first season, we had Clemson lined up but got out of it in January. The only way you all will take Coastal seriously is if we compete with high caliper FCS programs. A win against an FBS team is great, but highly unlikely. Liberty beating AppState is nice, but AppState isn't who they used to be. Hell, CSU almost beat Vanderbilt. Look at them now.

[Ibanez]

Coastal no longer schedules FBS teams. We don't need the money.

Oh wow didn't know that. I actually see Coastal moving to FBS conference in the near future. Maybe CUSA

eh. Coastal isn't moving out of the Big South anytime soon. Unless something major happens, we are staying put.

[BDKJMU]

Where is the 4th CAA bid going to come from? There are 13 at large bids. MVFC is going to take at least 3, possibly 4. Big Sky will get 3, possibly 4.

Make your argument for 4 teams by eliminating someone else.
At Large Slots
MVFC 3
Big Sky 3
CAA 2
Big South 1
Ohio 1
Southland 2
MEAC 1

The MEAC could get 3 teams, I don't think they should, but they could. The Big Sky getting 4 leaves out someone that is 8-4 or 9-3. Same for the MVFC. Perhaps you could argue Liberty will miss at 8-4, but if they beat Coastal, they are both going. If you give all 3 of the BS, MVFC, and CAA 4 bids(there are only 4 other at large bids left. I don't think the committee is going to do that. However, if they win out to go 9-3, I think they are in(no CAA team has ever gone 6-2(9-3 overall) and been left out. Stony Brook could go 6-2 and get left out because of their poor nonconference record.

-MVFC, while clearly the top conference isn't going to get 5 of their 10 teams in. Maybe not 4. Could very well end up with 3 in and 4 teams at 7-5/6-6.
-Big Sky isn't going to get 5 teams in. Not a lock for 4. Of those 6 Big Sky teams with 6+ wins, 5 of them played a Div II, and ID St played 2. Plus a lot of them have to still play each other over the next 3 weeks. They're not going to have 5 teams with 8 Div 1 wins, and maybe not 4.
-Southland might not get 3 teams in. I see 3 with 8 Div I wins: SELA, MCNeese and SHSU. SHSU has to win out to get to 8-4 and they have that Div II loss.
-MEAC isn't going to get 3.

WAG:
MVFC: 4
Big Sky 4
CAA 4
Southland 2
Big South: 2
OVC 2
MEAC 2
Southern 1
NEC 1
Patriot 1
Pioneer 1

[kalm]

Coastal is going even if they lose to Liberty. All the bubble teams need to hope Liberty doesn't win the conference(and they easily could).[/quote
Yeah. Coastal doesn't play FBS schools because we are focusing on playing and beating the best FCS teams that we can schedule. This is our first season, we had Clemson lined up but got out of it in January. The only way you all will take Coastal seriously is if we compete with high caliper FCS programs. A win against an FBS team is great, but highly unlikely. Liberty beating AppState is nice, but AppState isn't who they used to be. Hell, CSU almost beat Vanderbilt. Look at them now.

Good plan but you're gonna need to do better than a couple of MEAC's and middle of the road Southern teams.

[Ibanez]

Coastal is going even if they lose to Liberty. All the bubble teams need to hope Liberty doesn't win the conference(and they easily could).[/quote
Yeah. Coastal doesn't play FBS schools because we are focusing on playing and beating the best FCS teams that we can schedule. This is our first season, we had Clemson lined up but got out of it in January. The only way you all will take Coastal seriously is if we compete with high caliper FCS programs. A win against an FBS team is great, but highly unlikely. Liberty beating AppState is nice, but AppState isn't who they used to be. Hell, CSU almost beat Vanderbilt. Look at them now.

Good plan but you're gonna need to do better than a couple of MEAC's and middle of the road Southern teams.

You don't need to tell me that. I wish we'd stop scheduling the MEAC.

[Beachdude]

Good plan but you're gonna need to do better than a couple of MEAC's and middle of the road Southern teams.

You don't need to tell me that. I wish we'd stop scheduling the MEAC.

I'm hoping that's part of Moglia's plan. I thought that ending the FBS games was the first step in starting to schedule stronger FCS opponents to make up for it. In order for CCU to continue its rise in the FCS ranks, it has to face tougher teams regularly.

[Ibanez]

You don't need to tell me that. I wish we'd stop scheduling the MEAC.

I'm hoping that's part of Moglia's plan. I thought that ending the FBS games was the first step in starting to schedule stronger FCS opponents to make up for it. In order for CCU to continue its rise in the FCS ranks, it has to face tougher teams regularly.

It is.

[Beachdude]

I'm hoping that's part of Moglia's plan. I thought that ending the FBS games was the first step in starting to schedule stronger FCS opponents to make up for it. In order for CCU to continue its rise in the FCS ranks, it has to face tougher teams regularly.

It is.

In the conference, yes. Outside, no. Of course no one planned on the fall of El Cid, and Furman before this years schedule, so not CCU's fault. And Charlotte hasn't progressed as fast as everyone thought they would. But I'd like to see us schedule some of the regular FCS powerhouses.

[Ibanez]

It is.

In the conference, yes. Outside, no. Of course no one planned on the fall of El Cid, and Furman before this years schedule, so not CCU's fault. And Charlotte hasn't progressed as fast as everyone thought they would. But I'd like to see us schedule some of the regular FCS powerhouses.

Exactly. Who saw Furman's demise coming?

[slulionsfan]

McNeese

I am hoping and pulling for it but I wouldn't bet on it. At this point injuries have taken:

1) All three running backs who appeared on the depth chart for the season opener at Nebraska.

2) The three best wide receivers.

3) At least two of the starting offensive linemen who opened the season at Nebraska.

4) The defensive back who got the long interception return against Nebraska.

5) I think they probably lost the freshman running back they took the redshirt off of after the three who were on the depth chart to open the season got hurt. He was looking pretty good and got 91 yards on 11 carries through the first possession of the second half against Northwestern State this past weekend. Then all of a sudden he disappeared from the lineup and the coach tried playing the guy who started season #1 but said after the game that he's still limping but they had to play him because they were running out of players. The freshman got two more carries for one years each later on one series but that was it.

This paragraph on comments by the head coach after the Northwestern State game says it all:

"We were running out of players," said Viator. "We had a couple of offensive linemen come out the game and Bennett was still limping. We were just running out of guys to be honest with you."

Oh...and the Kansas State transfer QB Daniel Sams has a hip pointer. He played but he was obviously way below 100% when trying to run the ball. And his running ability is what makes him really dangerous when he's healthy.

Nothing's impossible and they're in good position mathematically but it's going to be awfully tough with them being as depleted as they are.

Join the club. Everybody has injuries this time of year. We had a ton last year and are battling them again ... it's part of it.

[89Hen]

Where is the 4th CAA bid going to come from? There are 13 at large bids. MVFC is going to take at least 3, possibly 4. Big Sky will get 3, possibly 4.

Make your argument for 4 teams by eliminating someone else.
At Large Slots
MVFC 3
Big Sky 3
CAA 2
Big South 1
Ohio 1
Southland 2
MEAC 1

The MEAC could get 3 teams, I don't think they should, but they could. The Big Sky getting 4 leaves out someone that is 8-4 or 9-3. Same for the MVFC. Perhaps you could argue Liberty will miss at 8-4, but if they beat Coastal, they are both going. If you give all 3 of the BS, MVFC, and CAA 4 bids(there are only 4 other at large bids left. I don't think the committee is going to do that. However, if they win out to go 9-3, I think they are in(no CAA team has ever gone 6-2(9-3 overall) and been left out. Stony Brook could go 6-2 and get left out because of their poor nonconference record.

-MVFC, while clearly the top conference isn't going to get 5 of their 10 teams in. Maybe not 4. Could very well end up with 3 in and 4 teams at 7-5/6-6.
-Big Sky isn't going to get 5 teams in. Not a lock for 4. Of those 6 Big Sky teams with 6+ wins, 5 of them played a Div II, and ID St played 2. Plus a lot of them have to still play each other over the next 3 weeks. They're not going to have 5 teams with 8 Div 1 wins, and maybe not 4.
-Southland might not get 3 teams in. I see 3 with 8 Div I wins: SELA, MCNeese and SHSU. SHSU has to win out to get to 8-4 and they have that Div II loss.
-MEAC isn't going to get 3.

WAG:
MVFC: 4
Big Sky 4
CAA 4
Southland 2
Big South: 2
OVC 2
MEAC 2
Southern 1
NEC 1
Patriot 1
Pioneer 1

I think trying to pick a field on how many any conference "should" get is folly and you need to look at the actual situations. Several of the conferences will help themselves with "upsets" and several will hurt themselves. Obviously a lot still has to play out, but IMO there will be at-large teams in this year with pretty bad resumes.

[dal4018]

Starting to shape up, but still lots of question marks. Let's see what you have. I posted this after week 5...

EWU
Montana State
Montana
Coastal
Chuck So
Villanova
UNH
Richmond
W&M
Bethune
NCAT
NDSU
Illinois St
SIU
SDSU
Sacred Heart
EKU
JSU
Fordham
Jacksonville
Chattanooga (did everyone realize Samford and WCU both had 2 D2's on their schedule?)
SELA
Sam Houston

and I still have room for one more like an 8-4 NAU or somebody like that

I hope my eagles from NC Central meet up with Bethune again with a playoff berth on the line.We proved we could move the ball on them via the deep ball a 50 yd bomb!!!!!!
Some have already been blow away, but many are still in. What you got?

[dal4018]

Starting to shape up, but still lots of question marks. Let's see what you have. I posted this after week 5...

EWU
Montana State
Montana
Coastal
Chuck So
Villanova
UNH
Richmond
W&M
Bethune
NCAT
NDSU
Illinois St
SIU
SDSU
Sacred Heart
EKU
JSU
Fordham
Jacksonville
Chattanooga (did everyone realize Samford and WCU both had 2 D2's on their schedule?)
SELA
Sam Houston

and I still have room for one more like an 8-4 NAU or somebody like that

I hope my eagles from NC Central meet up with Bethune again with a playoff berth on the line.We proved we could move the ball on them via the deep ball a 50 yd bomb!!!!!!
[\quote]

[dal4018]

Where is the 4th CAA bid going to come from? There are 13 at large bids. MVFC is going to take at least 3, possibly 4. Big Sky will get 3, possibly 4.

Make your argument for 4 teams by eliminating someone else.
At Large Slots
MVFC 3
Big Sky 3
CAA 2
Big South 1
Ohio 1
Southland 2
MEAC 1

The MEAC could get 3 teams, I don't think they should, but they could. The Big Sky getting 4 leaves out someone that is 8-4 or 9-3. Same for the MVFC. Perhaps you could argue Liberty will miss at 8-4, but if they beat Coastal, they are both going. If you give all 3 of the BS, MVFC, and CAA 4 bids(there are only 4 other at large bids left. I don't think the committee is going to do that. However, if they win out to go 9-3, I think they are in(no CAA team has ever gone 6-2(9-3 overall) and been left out. Stony Brook could go 6-2 and get left out because of their poor nonconference record.

You think the MEAC could get three teams into the playoffs which would be the third team NC Central possibly along with Bethune Cookman and North Carolina A&T.

[89Hen]

You think the MEAC could get three teams into the playoffs which would be the third team NC Central possibly along with Bethune Cookman and North Carolina A&T.

How do you figure NCCU has any chance?? At 4-5, the ONLY way they can make is if they get the auto and they already have two losses and there are five teams with 1 loss. There is no way all five finish with 2 losses. C'mon Dal, this is crazy even for you. BTW, sorry for all the punctuation.