SCOTUS Allows Texas Voter I.D. Law

[CAA Flagship]

Something tells me this fella doesn't work.

He cashes in scrap metal. He makes about $20 a day - the cost of the birth certificate.

Yes, he's very poor.

And, a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all. There was another story of a 93 year old veteran being turned away because of a lack of photo ID. His drivers license expired years ago.

It really is a crock of shit.

Can you ask him if he receives any taxpayer funded entitlements?

[Grizalltheway]

He cashes in scrap metal. He makes about $20 a day - the cost of the birth certificate.

Yes, he's very poor.

And, a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all. There was another story of a 93 year old veteran being turned away because of a lack of photo ID. His drivers license expired years ago.

It really is a crock of shit.

Can you ask him if he receives any taxpayer funded entitlements?

The 93 year old veteran or the black dude?

[DSUrocks07]

The first of the six forms of ID accepted under SB14 is a US passport. No luck there. What would someone who has never even crossed the city boundary of Austin do with a passport?

The second is a US military ID card, but Kennie has never been in the military. The third is a driving licence, but he doesn’t have a car and has never possessed a driving licence.

The fourth is a license to carry a concealed handgun. “I did have my own gun when I was about 14 or 15,” he said, “but that was 30 years ago.” The fifth is a citizenship certificate, and no, he doesn’t have that either.

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

What happened to number 3 and number 5?

Or did that not meet the direction that the journalist was pushing this story as?

[89Hen]

a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all.

Harper Lee, is that you?

[Skjellyfetti]

What happened to number 3 and number 5?

Or did that not meet the direction that the journalist was pushing this story as?

The first of the six forms of ID accepted under SB14 is a US passport. No luck there. What would someone who has never even crossed the city boundary of Austin do with a passport?

The second is a US military ID card, but Kennie has never been in the military. The third is a driving licence, but he doesn’t have a car and has never possessed a driving licence.

The fourth is a license to carry a concealed handgun. “I did have my own gun when I was about 14 or 15,” he said, “but that was 30 years ago.” The fifth is a citizenship certificate, and no, he doesn’t have that either.

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

[DSUrocks07]

What happened to number 3 and number 5?

Or did that not meet the direction that the journalist was pushing this story as?

The first of the six forms of ID accepted under SB14 is a US passport. No luck there. What would someone who has never even crossed the city boundary of Austin do with a passport?

The second is a US military ID card, but Kennie has never been in the military. The third is a driving licence, but he doesn’t have a car and has never possessed a driving licence.

The fourth is a license to carry a concealed handgun. “I did have my own gun when I was about 14 or 15,” he said, “but that was 30 years ago.” The fifth is a citizenship certificate, and no, he doesn’t have that either.

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

Ah yes, just a standard paragraph structure issue because doing this:

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Is too much work for the author to get his point across in a clearer fashion.

Carry on.

Plus this little tidbit from the law itself.

Sec.A63.0101.AADOCUMENTATION OF PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION.
The following documentation is an acceptable form [as proof] of
photo identification under this chapter:

(1)AAa driver ’s license, election identification
certificate, or personal identification card issued to the person
by the Department of Public Safety

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (page 9)

EDIT: So this man lived in Texas for 45 years and didn't keep a state ID card active? "Because it was too difficult"?

[Skjellyfetti]

Plus this little tidbit from the law itself.

Sec.A63.0101.AADOCUMENTATION OF PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION.
The following documentation is an acceptable form [as proof] of
photo identification under this chapter:

(1)AAa driver ’s license, election identification
certificate, or personal identification card issued to the person
by the Department of Public Safety

So this man lived in Texas for 45 years and NEVER gotten a state ID card?

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

To get an EIC, Kennie needs to be able to show the Texas department of public safety (DPS) other forms of documentation that satisfy them as to his identity. He presented them with his old personal ID card – issued by the DPS itself and with his photo on it – but because it is more than 60 days expired (it ran out in 2000) they didn’t accept it.

[DSUrocks07]

Plus this little tidbit from the law itself.



So this man lived in Texas for 45 years and NEVER gotten a state ID card?

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

To get an EIC, Kennie needs to be able to show the Texas department of public safety (DPS) other forms of documentation that satisfy them as to his identity. He presented them with his old personal ID card – issued by the DPS itself and with his photo on it – but because it is more than 60 days expired (it ran out in 2000) they didn’t accept it.

I caught that



This is what I get for trying to be more active on the site while at work and coming off a double shift

[Grizalltheway]

Ah yes, just a standard paragraph structure issue because doing this:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)

Is too much work for the author to get his point across in a clearer fashion.

Carry on.

Plus this little tidbit from the law itself.

Sec.A63.0101.AADOCUMENTATION OF PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION.
The following documentation is an acceptable form [as proof] of
photo identification under this chapter:

(1)AAa driver ’s license, election identification
certificate, or personal identification card issued to the person
by the Department of Public Safety

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (page 9)

EDIT: So this man lived in Texas for 45 years and didn't keep a state ID card active? "Because it was too difficult"?

It's a news article, not a Powerpoint presentation.

[CAA Flagship]

Can you ask him if he receives any taxpayer funded entitlements?

The 93 year old veteran or the black dude?

What the hell. Let's let our hair down and get answers for both.

[Skjellyfetti]

[Ibanez]

Something tells me this fella doesn't work.

He cashes in scrap metal. He makes about $20 a day - the cost of the birth certificate.

Yes, he's very poor.

And, a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all. There was another story of a 93 year old veteran being turned away because of a lack of photo ID. His drivers license expired years ago.

It really is a crock of shit.

So I'm right, he doesn't work.

[Ibanez]

Plus this little tidbit from the law itself.



So this man lived in Texas for 45 years and NEVER gotten a state ID card?

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

To get an EIC, Kennie needs to be able to show the Texas department of public safety (DPS) other forms of documentation that satisfy them as to his identity. He presented them with his old personal ID card – issued by the DPS itself and with his photo on it – but because it is more than 60 days expired (it ran out in 2000) they didn’t accept it.

So, in 14 years he hasn't earned enough money to renew his ID?

I'm sympathetic to people that struggle, but let's be serious. In 14 years, this guy (who thinks a cable bill is proof of citizenship) hasn't earned enough money OR cared enough to have a valid form of ID? Somethings are good to have.

[Grizalltheway]

He cashes in scrap metal. He makes about $20 a day - the cost of the birth certificate.

Yes, he's very poor.

And, a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all. There was another story of a 93 year old veteran being turned away because of a lack of photo ID. His drivers license expired years ago.

It really is a crock of shit.

So I'm right, he doesn't work.

He's an entrepreneur.

[Ibanez]

He works as a “scrapper”, foraging in people’s garbage to collect cans, bottles and metal for recycling. Sometimes he comes across trinkets that he can restore. There are several chime bells dangling in the porch of his house, and a cordon of wooden Nutcracker dolls standing guard by the front door. A porcelain model of a laughing pig is staked quizzically on a poll by the drive.

On a usual day he makes about $15 to $20 from recycling the cans and other scrap. On a good day – after a holiday like Valentine’s Day or Easter when people consume more – his earnings can rise to as much as $40 a day. He has no bank account or credit cards, and no savings – he only deals with cans and cash.

I wonder what's preventing him from getting a real job.

[travelinman67]

So, in 14 years he hasn't earned enough money to renew his ID?

I'm sympathetic to people that struggle, but let's be serious. In 14 years, this guy (who thinks a cable bill is proof of citizenship) hasn't earned enough money OR cared enough to have a valid form of ID? Somethings are good to have.

No and no.

The oppressive white males have cunningly crafted this seemingly logical, practical, constitutional law with the intent of preventing weak-minded fuckups (who we all know vote Democrat), from exercising their voting rights.

Roger that.

[Skjellyfetti]

So, in 14 years he hasn't earned enough money to renew his ID?

I'm sympathetic to people that struggle, but let's be serious. In 14 years, this guy (who thinks a cable bill is proof of citizenship) hasn't earned enough money OR cared enough to have a valid form of ID? Somethings are good to have.

I think he just hasn't needed an ID until now.

He doesn't drive. In a poor neighborhood he probably knows every clerk around to buy alcohol or cigarettes.

And, the cable bill isn't proof of citizenship - but, it can be used as proof of residency and they could verify his information and identity using their own methods. Hell, he also brought an ID they issues themselves. Clearly it's the dude whether the ID is expired or not.

[Ibanez]

So, in 14 years he hasn't earned enough money to renew his ID?

I'm sympathetic to people that struggle, but let's be serious. In 14 years, this guy (who thinks a cable bill is proof of citizenship) hasn't earned enough money OR cared enough to have a valid form of ID? Somethings are good to have.

I think he just hasn't needed an ID until now.

He doesn't drive. In a poor neighborhood he probably knows every clerk around to buy alcohol or cigarettes.

And, the cable bill isn't proof of citizenship - but, it can be used as proof of residency and they could verify his information and identity using their own methods. Hell, he also brought an ID they issues themselves. Clearly it's the dude whether the ID is expired or not.

I get all that, and I understand that proof of residency (which illegal immigrants probably have) but how difficult is it to maintain an ID? I paid for my DL in 2005. I haven't had to do anything with it and wont until I renew it next year.

Also, this guy has two legal names? That part confused me.

[Skjellyfetti]

I get all that, and I understand that proof of residency (which illegal immigrants probably have) but how difficult is it to maintain an ID? I paid for my DL in 2005. I haven't had to do anything with it and wont until I renew it next year.

Yeah, illegal immigrants will have proof of residency - but, they won't be able to register to vote. So, that really doesn't matter.



I would be fine with voter IDs if they were both easily obtained for everyone and free. Maybe roll them out slowly - don't pass a bill right before a midterm election. Maybe along with the census every eligible voter is issued a voting ID. Conks would hate it because it would cost governments $$... but, they seem fired up enough about voter IDs that maybe they would get over it. Seems like the only compromise that would work.

[Ibanez]

From that same article, how voter-friendly is your state?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i ... e#state=AK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Texas and SC aren't that friendly.

[Ibanez]

I get all that, and I understand that proof of residency (which illegal immigrants probably have) but how difficult is it to maintain an ID? I paid for my DL in 2005. I haven't had to do anything with it and wont until I renew it next year.

Yeah, illegal immigrants will have proof of residency - but, they won't be able to register to vote. So, that really doesn't matter.



I would be fine with voter IDs if they were both easily obtained for everyone and free. Maybe roll them out slowly - don't pass a bill right before a midterm election. Maybe along with the census every eligible voter is issued a voting ID. Conks would hate it because it would cost governments $$... but, they seem fired up enough about voter IDs that maybe they would get over it. Seems like the only compromise that would work.

Like I said earlier, if your state requires it, the state should foot the bill for the ID. Vital Records and the DMV ( or DPS in Texas) should work in tandem. I can't believe that in 2014, with the all the data we have, the DPS can't put this fella's name into a computer, see that he's who he says he is, see the old ID and accept that. But, I guess that opens up a can of worms.

[AZGrizFan]

He works as a “scrapper”, foraging in people’s garbage to collect cans, bottles and metal for recycling. Sometimes he comes across trinkets that he can restore. There are several chime bells dangling in the porch of his house, and a cordon of wooden Nutcracker dolls standing guard by the front door. A porcelain model of a laughing pig is staked quizzically on a poll by the drive.

On a usual day he makes about $15 to $20 from recycling the cans and other scrap. On a good day – after a holiday like Valentine’s Day or Easter when people consume more – his earnings can rise to as much as $40 a day. He has no bank account or credit cards, and no savings – he only deals with cans and cash.

I wonder what's preventing him from getting a real job.

His job pays him enough to afford cable TV.

[AZGrizFan]

I get all that, and I understand that proof of residency (which illegal immigrants probably have) but how difficult is it to maintain an ID? I paid for my DL in 2005. I haven't had to do anything with it and wont until I renew it next year.

Yeah, illegal immigrants will have proof of residency - but, they won't be able to register to vote. So, that really doesn't matter.

That's cute. You actually believe that!

[kalm]

I wonder what's preventing him from getting a real job.

His job pays him enough to afford cable TV.

Thanks, Obama!

[AZGrizFan]

His job pays him enough to afford cable TV.

Thanks, Obama!