SCOTUS Allows Texas Voter I.D. Law

[CAA Flagship]

No, not Ghandi. That was from this scene:

No.

Si.

[CAA Flagship]

Wow. Ticklemybag gets an epic smackdown from BH about the NYT and he responds with an opinion piece from the Spados Daily.....

[AZGrizFan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10 ... is-county/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CHICAGO — Early voting in Illinois got off to a rocky start Monday, as votes being cast for Republican candidates were transformed into votes for Democrats.

Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to vote Monday at the Schaumburg Public Library.

“I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent,” Moynihan said. “You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat.”

The conservative website Illinois Review reported that “While using a touch screen voting machine in Schaumburg, Moynihan voted for several races on the ballot, only to find that whenever he voted for a Republican candidate, the machine registered the vote for a Democrat in the same race. He notified the election judge at his polling place and demonstrated that it continued to cast a vote for the opposing candidate’s party. Moynihan was eventually allowed to vote for Republican candidates, including his own race.

Moynihan offered this gracious lesson to his followers on Twitter: “Be careful when you vote in Illinois. Make sure you take the time to check your votes before submitting.”

Cook County Board of Elections Deputy Communications Director Jim Scalzitti, told Illinois Watchdog, the machine was taken out of service and tested.

“This was a calibration error of the touch-screen on the machine,” Scalzitti said. “When Mr. Moynihan used the touch-screen, it improperly assigned his votes due to improper calibration.”

Nothing to see. Never happens. Move along, people.

[ASUG8]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10 ... is-county/

CHICAGO — Early voting in Illinois got off to a rocky start Monday, as votes being cast for Republican candidates were transformed into votes for Democrats.

Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to vote Monday at the Schaumburg Public Library.

“I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent,” Moynihan said. “You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat.”

The conservative website Illinois Review reported that “While using a touch screen voting machine in Schaumburg, Moynihan voted for several races on the ballot, only to find that whenever he voted for a Republican candidate, the machine registered the vote for a Democrat in the same race. He notified the election judge at his polling place and demonstrated that it continued to cast a vote for the opposing candidate’s party. Moynihan was eventually allowed to vote for Republican candidates, including his own race.

Moynihan offered this gracious lesson to his followers on Twitter: “Be careful when you vote in Illinois. Make sure you take the time to check your votes before submitting.”

Cook County Board of Elections Deputy Communications Director Jim Scalzitti, told Illinois Watchdog, the machine was taken out of service and tested.

“This was a calibration error of the touch-screen on the machine,” Scalzitti said. “When Mr. Moynihan used the touch-screen, it improperly assigned his votes due to improper calibration.”

Nothing to see. Never happens. Move along, people.

Maybe we should go third world on this problem.

[Grizalltheway]

Nothing to see. Never happens.

Can you show me in this thread where anyone has claimed that?

[89Hen]

So... Obama won in 2008 and 2012.... because of voter fraud?

Neither election was remotely close.

You're a lunatic.

So... you're OK with voter fraud in elections that aren't that close?

[travelinman67]

The dyed finger works for multiple votes on election day, but doesn't resolve surrogate voting for disabled, dead nor prevents abuse of absentee/mail-in which is the principle method of voter fraud.

The solution is a national reform act inclusive of voter I.D. and computetized verification of absentee/mail-in with SSA (death), local registrar records, and Census records. And for the nay-sayers who don't believe an instantaneous records check could be created, those systems are developed DAILY by merchants, web developers, supply chain, financial market, you name it...in hours.

IF...voter ID and mail-in verification was instituted, the Democrat party would become politically insignificant.

Because...

Democrats win elections through voter fraud.

[houndawg]

The dyed finger works for multiple votes on election day, but doesn't resolve surrogate voting for disabled, dead nor prevents abuse of absentee/mail-in which is the principle method of voter fraud.

The solution is a national reform act inclusive of voter I.D. and computetized verification of absentee/mail-in with SSA (death), local registrar records, and Census records. And for the nay-sayers who don't believe an instantaneous records check could be created, those systems are developed DAILY by merchants, web developers, supply chain, financial market, you name it...in hours.

IF...voter ID and mail-in verification was instituted, the Democrat party would become politically insignificant.

Because...

Democrats win elections through voter fraud.

You gotta get the dosage adjusted. If you were serious about voter fraud you'd be verbally ejaculating down the front of your shirt about electronic voting machines, not fvcking a fly's ass with this ID card nonsense. Pathetic conk losers...

[BDKJMU]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10 ... is-county/

CHICAGO — Early voting in Illinois got off to a rocky start Monday, as votes being cast for Republican candidates were transformed into votes for Democrats.

Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to vote Monday at the Schaumburg Public Library.

“I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent,” Moynihan said. “You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat.”

The conservative website Illinois Review reported that “While using a touch screen voting machine in Schaumburg, Moynihan voted for several races on the ballot, only to find that whenever he voted for a Republican candidate, the machine registered the vote for a Democrat in the same race. He notified the election judge at his polling place and demonstrated that it continued to cast a vote for the opposing candidate’s party. Moynihan was eventually allowed to vote for Republican candidates, including his own race.

Moynihan offered this gracious lesson to his followers on Twitter: “Be careful when you vote in Illinois. Make sure you take the time to check your votes before submitting.”

Cook County Board of Elections Deputy Communications Director Jim Scalzitti, told Illinois Watchdog, the machine was taken out of service and tested.

“This was a calibration error of the touch-screen on the machine,” Scalzitti said. “When Mr. Moynihan used the touch-screen, it improperly assigned his votes due to improper calibration.”

Nothing to see. Never happens. Move along, people.

Yeah, right.....

[Chizzang]

The dyed finger works for multiple votes on election day, but doesn't resolve surrogate voting for disabled, dead nor prevents abuse of absentee/mail-in which is the principle method of voter fraud.

The solution is a national reform act inclusive of voter I.D. and computetized verification of absentee/mail-in with SSA (death), local registrar records, and Census records. And for the nay-sayers who don't believe an instantaneous records check could be created, those systems are developed DAILY by merchants, web developers, supply chain, financial market, you name it...in hours.

IF...voter ID and mail-in verification was instituted, the Democrat party would become politically insignificant.

Because...

Democrats win elections through voter fraud.

Meh...
Things change in a free society - if ID's become the requirement - then processes and people will adjust
The notion that somehow an ID is going to completely stifle the entire Democratic Party and flush the thing down the toilet is a little over the top there T-man

I like your enthusiasm
But the notion that the entire Democratic Party fails
and becomes irrelevant because of ID's really needs some further examination on your part

I can still go fishing (check)
They haven't come for my guns (check)
and an ID card isn't going to change the world

[JohnStOnge]

not fvcking a fly's ass

What is it with this obsession with fvcking flies even to the point of writing about it in French? Is that a Black Culture thing or something?

And, on the subject at hand, what is your problem with requiring that voters be able to show that they're who they say they are when they show up to vote? What on EARTH is wrong with that?

[JohnStOnge]

Here's what I think they ought to do:

When someone registers to vote, scan their fingerprints with one of those fingerprint machines. Don't do the thing where you roll the fingers though as that can have bugs. Just the straight fingerprints.

Then when people show up to vote have them place their fingers on a scanner. Simple.

Put the data in a national database so that when we have national elections it can be used to make sure nobody votes more than once and also votes in only one location.

There is absolutely NO reason why that kind of process should be more likely to "disenfranchise" one constituency over another. Fingerprint machines don't see race, class, or anything else. Absolutely no reason to object to something like that.

But you know what? The Democratic Party would object to it. The Democratic Party will object to ANY effort to tamp down voter fraud because it knows very well that it benefits from it.

[BlueHen86]

Here's what I think they ought to do:

When someone registers to vote, scan their fingerprints with one of those fingerprint machines. Don't do the thing where you roll the fingers though as that can have bugs. Just the straight fingerprints.

Then when people show up to vote have them place their fingers on a scanner. Simple.

Put the data in a national database so that when we have national elections it can be used to make sure nobody votes more than once and also votes in only one location.

There is absolutely NO reason why that kind of process should be more likely to "disenfranchise" one constituency over another. Fingerprint machines don't see race, class, or anything else. Absolutely no reason to object to something like that.

But you know what? The Democratic Party would object to it. The Democratic Party will object to ANY effort to tamp down voter fraud because it knows very well that it benefits from it.

The Dems would definitely object, but I'm not sure the GOP would go for it either. It also sounds expensive. Photo ID makes much more sense, most people already have one; it shouldn't be too hard to get them for those that don't.

I don't think photo ID will prevent all voting fraud, but it can help and it makes sense.

[Baldy]

And, yes. There has been one election in particular where a relatively small handful of cases of voter fraud could have swung the election.

But, I'm pretty sure Republicans and Conks were absolutely NOT on board with counting the votes in that election.

Yeah, but Kennedy stole that election fair and square.

[AZGrizFan]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uHDjk3fSc[/youtube]

Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe has gone undercover again. And this time he’s discovered that there’s one particular word Democratic operatives in Colorado love to use talking about voter fraud:

“Awesome.”

O’Keefe and his investigators approached three different Colorado organizations — Work for Progress, Greenpeace, and Representative Joe Salazar’s campaign — to get their takes on potential voter fraud while the organizations’ members had no idea cameras were rolling.

The statements the groups made, and which Project Veritas exposed, are nothing short of shocking.

Perhaps the most incredible comments came from Meredith Hicks– Director for the Denver-based progressive and social-change nonprofit Work for Progress. Work for Progress has a direct link on their website to apply for a position on Democratic Senator Mark Udall’s re-election campaign.

When O’Keefe, posing as a middle-aged college professor, suggests that using discarded ballots to cast fraudulent ballots is a good idea and acceptable because, the other side “cheats and lies and steals all the time,” Hicks replies:

“I mean, that’s not even lying and stealing. If someone throws out the ballot– if you want to fill it out, you should do it.”

When Project Veritas covertly engages a Greenpeace staffer in conversation about the “win at all costs” nature of the upcoming Senate races, she eagerly applauds the plan to use the mail-in votes of their non-existent frat brothers who are moving away. “Really, truly, that’s awesome,” she says.

She also points them in the direction of a “ghetto” neighborhood where discarded ballots can be found:

“This is going to sound weird, but ghetto Aurora, like north Aurora. Because south is like yuppieville.

But north Aurora is like a lot of people who — I hate to put in cliches — but people don’t care.”

Nicole Hanlen, a staffer for Colorado state Rep. Joe Salazar, didn’t flinch when Project Veritas investigators told her their story of friends looking to register in the state although they’d already voted. She simply directed them to the building where they could register.

Why is O’Keefe picking on Colorado? Well, as only one of three states with an all mail-in ballot this year, Colorado is ripe for voter-fraud abuses. Although some claim voter fraud is largely a myth, there have been troubling and recent instances of questionable voter registration behavior, such as one man offering to buy mail-in ballots for $5 a piece.

As Project Veritas has shown, there’s clearly something there to hide.

[Chizzang]

I'm starting to really enjoy this thread...
Who knew the entire America political system revolved around rampant voter fraud

[travelinman67]

I'm starting to really enjoy this thread...
Who knew the entire America political system revolved around rampant voter fraud

I knew.

I live in California.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm starting to really enjoy this thread...
Who knew the entire America political system revolved around rampant voter fraud

This is Chizzy:



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9zYRupnWw[/youtube]

[Col Hogan]

Voter fraud takes all forms...even the NAACP is getting involved...

. According to a letter from a lawyer for the State of North Carolina to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a speaker at a recent NAACP conference in North Carolina urged audience members to mislead the NAACP’s own members into believing they do not need to register to vote in advance, or that they do not need to vote at their assigned polling place. Why? The letter alleges: To create confusion and animosity during the upcoming mid-term elections in North Carolina, and to use the evidence of that confusion in the ongoing litigation between Eric Holder’s Justice Department and North Carolina and to show that North Carolina’s election integrity laws are discriminatory.

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/brea ... z3H0ynw94O" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kalm]

I'm starting to really enjoy this thread...
Who knew the entire America political system revolved around rampant voter fraud

This is Chizzy:



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9zYRupnWw[/youtube]

Sarcasm...you should look into it sometime.

[JohnStOnge]

Here's what I think they ought to do:

When someone registers to vote, scan their fingerprints with one of those fingerprint machines. Don't do the thing where you roll the fingers though as that can have bugs. Just the straight fingerprints.

Then when people show up to vote have them place their fingers on a scanner. Simple.

Put the data in a national database so that when we have national elections it can be used to make sure nobody votes more than once and also votes in only one location.

The Dems would definitely object, but I'm not sure the GOP would go for it either. It also sounds expensive. Photo ID makes much more sense, most people already have one; it shouldn't be too hard to get them for those that don't.

I don't think photo ID will prevent all voting fraud, but it can help and it makes sense.

I think it might be less expensive than issuing ID cards because the expense is pretty much limited to the scanning equipment. Once you have the equipment then you're just putting data in a database and it doesn't matter how many people you scan.You don't have to issue any cards or anything.

In today's world I'm guessing you've had it done. I've had it done. There are things I have to do where I put my thumb on a scanner and it verifies that it's me. NO reason at ALL that sort of thing couldn't be done with voting. Simple too. Just when you register to vote you stick your thumb on the scanner to record the print. Takes a couple of seconds. We have the technology to do it and we should do it.

I guess there would be rare instances where people don't have arms or something but something could be worked out for that.

[AZGrizFan]

This is Chizzy:



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9zYRupnWw[/youtube]

Sarcasm...you should look into it sometime.

Really? That entire post drips with sarcasm....

[travelinman67]

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2014/10/21 ... nsider_sfp

[BlueHen86]

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2014/10/21 ... nsider_sfp

Good for them. Mostly black Ferguson is run by whites because the blacks don't vote. This flyer is spot on.

Well done!

[Skjellyfetti]

Eric Kennie is a Texan. He is as Texan as the yucca plants growing outside his house. So Texan that he has never, in his 45 years, travelled outside the state. In fact, he has never even left his native city of Austin. “No sir, not one day. I was born and raised here, only place I know is Austin.”

You might think that more than qualifies Kennie as a citizen of the Lone Star state, entitling him to its most basic rights such as the ability to vote. Not so, according to the state of Texas and its Republican political leadership. On 4 November, when America goes to the polls in the midterm elections, for the first time in his adult life Eric Kennie will not be allowed to participate.

Ever since he turned 18 he has made a point of voting in general elections, having been brought up by his African American parents to think that it is important, part of what he calls “doing the right thing”. He remembers the excitement of voting for Barack Obama in 2008 to help elect the country’s first black president, his grandmother crying tears of joy on election night. “My grandfather and uncle, they used to tell me all the time there will be a black president. I never believed it, never in a million years.”

He voted again for Obama in 2012, and turned out for the 2010 midterm elections in between. But this year is different. Kennie is one of an estimated 600,000 Texans who, though registered to vote, will be unable to do so because they cannot meet photo-identification requirements set out in the state’s new voter-ID law, SB14 .

The law, which has been deemed by the courts to be the strictest of its kind in the US, forces any would-be voter to produce photographic proof of identity at polling stations. It was justified by Governor Rick Perry and the Republican chiefs in the state legislature as a means of combatting electoral fraud in a state where in the past 10 years some 20m votes have been cast, yet only two cases of voter impersonation have been prosecuted to conviction.

Before SB14 came into effect, Kennie was able to vote by simply showing a voter registration card posted to his home address. Under the vastly more stringent demands of the new law, he must take with him to the polling station one of six forms of identification bearing his photograph. The problem is, he doesn’t have any of the six and there’s no way he’s going to be able to acquire one any time soon.

The first of the six forms of ID accepted under SB14 is a US passport. No luck there. What would someone who has never even crossed the city boundary of Austin do with a passport?

The second is a US military ID card, but Kennie has never been in the military. The third is a driving licence, but he doesn’t have a car and has never possessed a driving licence.

The fourth is a license to carry a concealed handgun. “I did have my own gun when I was about 14 or 15,” he said, “but that was 30 years ago.” The fifth is a citizenship certificate, and no, he doesn’t have that either.

And then there’s the sixth method of identification allowed under the law. It’s a new form of photo-ID card created specifically for voting under SB14, known as an election identification certificate (EIC).

To get an EIC, Kennie needs to be able to show the Texas department of public safety (DPS) other forms of documentation that satisfy them as to his identity. He presented them with his old personal ID card – issued by the DPS itself and with his photo on it – but because it is more than 60 days expired (it ran out in 2000) they didn’t accept it. Next he showed them an electricity bill, and after that a cable TV bill, but on each occasion they said it didn’t cut muster and turned him away.

Each trip to the DPS office involved taking three buses, a journey that can stretch to a couple of hours. Then he had to stand in line, waiting for up to a further three hours to be seen, before finally making another two-hour schlep home.

In one of his trips to the DPS last year they told him he needed to get hold of a copy of his birth certificate as the only remaining way he could meet the requirements and get his EIC. That meant going on yet another three-bus trek to the official records office in a different part of town.

The cost of acquiring a birth certificate in Texas is $23, which may not sound much but it is to Kennie. He is poor, like many of the up to 600,000 Texans caught in the current voter ID trap.

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