Worthwhile Commentators, Editorialists, and Pundits

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Re: Worthwhile Commentators, Editorialists, and Pundits

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote: Are he able to listen..?
He who? :?

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Re: Worthwhile Commentators, Editorialists, and Pundits

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I think that, most of the time, use of the word "ideologue" is basically an ad hominem technique applied to try to dismiss what somebody is saying without having to argue with the substance of it.

You know, you are an "ideologue" if you criticize people for being "ideologues." Why, because all an "ideologue" is is "a person who believes very strongly in particular principles and tries to follow them carefully" (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dict ... /ideologue" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

And you may be a person who believes a person should be "open minded" and willing to change their positions. That's a principle you believe in. You're being an "ideologue" even while you are trying to use the term "ideologue" to diminish the position of someone else. They're not following the principle you believe in.

It's quite possible to be an "ideologue" and be completely correct. "Ideologue" does not mean "wrong." It doesn't necessarily mean you are a "follower" or that you haven't intelligently analyzed the situation either. It just means you have established principles from which your positions proceed.
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Re: Worthwhile Commentators, Editorialists, and Pundits

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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:Oh...I almost forgot. Russell Brand does some fine editorializing. :nod: :mrgreen:
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Watch his shit. Like Stewart and Colbert it's entertaining and thought provoking even if you disagree. :nod:
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JohnStOnge wrote:I think that, most of the time, use of the word "ideologue" is basically an ad hominem technique applied to try to dismiss what somebody is saying without having to argue with the substance of it.

You know, you are an "ideologue" if you criticize people for being "ideologues." Why, because all an "ideologue" is is "a person who believes very strongly in particular principles and tries to follow them carefully" (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dict ... /ideologue" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

And you may be a person who believes a person should be "open minded" and willing to change their positions. That's a principle you believe in. You're being an "ideologue" even while you are trying to use the term "ideologue" to diminish the position of someone else. They're not following the principle you believe in.

It's quite possible to be an "ideologue" and be completely correct. "Ideologue" does not mean "wrong." It doesn't necessarily mean you are a "follower" or that you haven't intelligently analyzed the situation either. It just means you have established principles from which your positions proceed.
Your ability to completely miss a point is astounding... :rofl:



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