Progressives War Against Christians

[kalm]

SD football team ordered to stop praying before game...

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/10/1 ... d-prayers/

No they weren't, and neither were the coaches. Quit lying.

[Chizzang]

Vilified? I must have missed that. How so?

It's not so much Christians being vilified as it's conservative Christians losing the culture war. The pope is a progressive, Jesus was a progressive. If this keeps up, religious progressives will soon outnumber the conservatives.

Kalm ^ makes the Million Dollar Point of the entire debate here...

[houndawg]

Nothing breaks my heart more than seeing all these American Christians suffering so much as they do here...
To be Christian in America is to be so "Misunderstood"

I wouldn't say they are suffering, but they are frequently and increasingly ridiculed and vilified in popular culture and the mainstream media.

.....keeps em from getting the big head. Most of them don't really believe their own superstitious nonsense anyway, they just pretend like they do for appearances sake.

[travelinman67]

City of Houston subpoenas anti-transgender/gay Church Pastors sermons, notes to determine if they have been proselytizing against gays/transgenders...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/ ... hristians/

The LGBT Inquisition, Texas style!

[Ibanez]

City of Houston subpoenas anti-transgender/gay Church Pastors sermons, notes to determine if they have been proselytizing against gays/transgenders...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/ ... hristians/

The LGBT Inquisition, Texas style!

I thought Texas was the last bastion of our Democracy? I didn't read the article, but this is such BS. organized religions, for the most part, are anti-gay.

[hitchinaride]

Vilified? I must have missed that. How so?

It's not so much Christians being vilified as it's conservative Christians losing the culture war. The pope is a progressive, Jesus was a progressive. If this keeps up, religious progressives will soon outnumber the conservatives.



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Kalm, an excellent point as usual. You nailed it.

A friend of mine, an Episcopal priest summed it up in one of op-eds at his parish website as it related to the Supreme Court's May decision of public prayer:

- "The Supreme Court said today that city councils and other public boards are free to open their meetings with an explicitly Christian prayer. Judges may not act as "censors of religious speech" simply because the prayers reflect the views of the dominant faith, they said.

That means, of course, that if there comes a day when Islam or Hinduism or any religion other than Christianity happens to become the dominant faith in our country, or if an adherent of a religion other than Christianity offers the opening prayer at a city council meeting tomorrow, prayers to Allah or Vishnu or perhaps an Earth Goddess are fully protected. I’m ok with that. But how will the Christians who were the defendants in today’s case respond when that happens? Will they rejoice, as they have today? Or will they fiercely object, claiming their first amendment right not to be subjected to another’s faith in a government context has been violated?" (I withheld name of priest)

[dbackjon]

Nothing breaks my heart more than seeing all these American Christians suffering so much as they do here...
To be Christian in America is to be so "Misunderstood"

I wouldn't say they are suffering, but they are frequently and increasingly ridiculed and vilified in popular culture and the mainstream media.

LOL - like they have been doing (and still do) to anyone that doesn't believe in the exact same things they do?

[dbackjon]

City of Houston subpoenas anti-transgender/gay Church Pastors sermons, notes to determine if they have been proselytizing against gays/transgenders...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/ ... hristians/

The LGBT Inquisition, Texas style!

Leave it to you to not understand what is going on.

These churches are SUING the city to overturn the LGBT equality ordinance. They tried to bring it to a petition drive, and failed to get the correct number of signatures. Now they are still mad, and suign the city to get on the ballot anyways. This is part of normal legal discovery - you ask for all documents from the people that are suing you.


T-man fail again.

[Chizzang]

Holy bat-sh!t T-man...
Between this and the WMD thread



Reading comprehension issues..?

[travelinman67]

City of Houston subpoenas anti-transgender/gay Church Pastors sermons, notes to determine if they have been proselytizing against gays/transgenders...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/ ... hristians/

The LGBT Inquisition, Texas style!

Leave it to you to not understand what is going on.

These churches are SUING the city to overturn the LGBT equality ordinance. They tried to bring it to a petition drive, and failed to get the correct number of signatures. Now they are still mad, and suign the city to get on the ballot anyways. This is part of normal legal discovery - you ask for all documents from the people that are suing you.


T-man fail again.

Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman were aware the subpoenas had been issued until yesterday.  Both agree the original documents were overly broad.  The city will move to narrow the scope during an upcoming court hearing.  Feldman says the focus should be only on communications related to the HERO petition process. However, as of the writing of this column, the subpoenas have not been rescinded.
Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Christina Holcomb said there is no evidence to suggest the city is “backing off” or “narrowing” its subpoena request.“The shame that the city of Houston has brought upon itself is real, but the claim that it has changed course is not,” she said. “The city has so far taken no concrete action to withdraw the subpoenas. Furthermore, the subpoenas themselves are the problem – not just their request for pastors’ sermons. The city is not off the hook from its illegitimate request for e-mails, text messages, and other communications in which these pastors, who are not even party to this lawsuit, may have disagreed with the mayor. The way to fix this is to withdraw the subpoenas entirely.

D1Back, caught lying again.

[travelinman67]

Holy bat-sh!t T-man...
Between this and the WMD thread



Reading comprehension issues..?

JFC!

Read, you stupid fucking idiot!

I'm not the one with the problem.

And your Ivy League trolling just confirms my assertion that liberalism is a mental illness.

[Chizzang]

Holy bat-sh!t T-man...
Between this and the WMD thread



Reading comprehension issues..?

JFC!

Read, you stupid fucking idiot!

I'm not the one with the problem.

And your Ivy League trolling just confirms my assertion that liberalism is a mental illness.

Wow...
Um I've been reading just fine (thanks for asking)
Check your medication Bro you are a little off kilter lately

[hitchinaride]

liberalism is a disease but Reagan was an American hero. JFC!!!!

Good one tman, good one. Your boy raised the debt ceiling 18 times, yet Obama raises it and all "hell breaks loose".

[travelinman67]

JFC!

Read, you stupid fucking idiot!

I'm not the one with the problem.

And your Ivy League trolling just confirms my assertion that liberalism is a mental illness.

Wow...
Um I've been reading just fine (thanks for asking)
Check your medication Bro you are a little off kilter lately

I'm growing weary of ignorance.

Just to be fair, specifically, please provide one example of my alleged incomprehension.

[Cap'n Cat]

Bitter, irrational Tbag. Cornered by Progressivism at every turn and lashing out like a crackhead.

[travelinman67]

Bitter, irrational Tbag. Cornered by Progressivism at every turn and lashing out like a crackhead.

Adds nothing. Incapable of logical debate. Resorts solely to personal attacks attempting to demean superior intelligence.

Troll.

[hitchinaride]

Reagan practiced séances on how to run the country. Pathetic!

[Cap'n Cat]

Bitter, irrational Tbag. Cornered by Progressivism at every turn and lashing out like a crackhead.

Adds nothing. Incapable of logical debate. Resorts solely to personal attacks attempting to demean superior intelligence.

Troll.

Feels the need to post the above because it was a shot to his ConkHeartGut. Inferior views beget inferior threads. In pain, lashes out at those who school him daily. Bitter, angry, but, ultimately, sad…..

[travelinman67]

City of Coeur d'Alene threatens to arrest minister for refusing to perform same sex marriages...

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... dings.html

...claim wedding chapel is a business, not involved with religion BECAUSE they accept money.

Earth to Coeur d'Alene!

Many, if not most, religious facilities charge a facility fee/gratuity/donation for wedding use.

Are they all "businesses"?

Want to test that in court?

[Chizzang]

City of Coeur d'Alene threatens to arrest minister for refusing to perform same sex marriages...

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... dings.html

...claim wedding chapel is a business, not involved with religion BECAUSE they accept money.

Earth to Coeur d'Alene!

Many, if not most, religious facilities charge a facility fee/gratuity/donation for wedding use.

Are they all "businesses"?

Want to test that in court?

Isn't Religion the largest most profitable business on Earth..?


Just asking...

[houndawg]

Holy bat-sh!t T-man...
Between this and the WMD thread



Reading comprehension issues..?

JFC!

Read, you stupid **** idiot!

I'm not the one with the problem.

And your Ivy League trolling just confirms my assertion that liberalism is a mental illness.

For god's sake get the dosage adjusted....

[kalm]

City of Coeur d'Alene threatens to arrest minister for refusing to perform same sex marriages...

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... dings.html

...claim wedding chapel is a business, not involved with religion BECAUSE they accept money.

Earth to Coeur d'Alene!

Many, if not most, religious facilities charge a facility fee/gratuity/donation for wedding use.

Are they all "businesses"?

Want to test that in court?

Isn't Religion the largest most profitable business on Earth..?


Just asking...

Their right to make a profit is constitutionally guaranteed by the first amendment.

Atheist hitching posts receive no such protection.

[CAA Flagship]

Isn't Religion the largest most profitable business on Earth..?


Just asking...

Their right to make a profit is constitutionally guaranteed by the first amendment.

Atheist hitching posts receive no such protection.

Do these hitching posts provide millions of dollars to the needy?

kalmy and Chizzy, you don't really want to escalate this argument, do you?

[kalm]

Their right to make a profit is constitutionally guaranteed by the first amendment.

Atheist hitching posts receive no such protection.

Do these hitching posts provide millions of dollars to the needy?

kalmy and Chizzy, you don't really want to escalate this argument, do you?

I doubt the CDA hitching post does either, but many non - religious groups do too.

Come at me, bro!

[Chizzang]

Their right to make a profit is constitutionally guaranteed by the first amendment.

Atheist hitching posts receive no such protection.

Do these hitching posts provide millions of dollars to the needy?

kalmy and Chizzy, you don't really want to escalate this argument, do you?

I'm just making a legitimate observation
I don't care if churches don't pay taxes or whatever

but we need to stop pretending that Religion isn't business