Proud Potheads Pushback: Public Perceives Problem "Stoners"

[CAA Flagship]

The health concerns are long-term, not short-term. For most Medicaid/Medicare patients, they won't live to see the effects.

Horseshit. Willie Nelson is 81 goddamn years old.

Good for Willie. How is Jerry Garcia doing?

[Grizalltheway]

Horseshit. Willie Nelson is 81 goddamn years old.

Good for Willie. How is Jerry Garcia doing?

Yeah, cause he died of a pot overdose.

[kalm]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

It's just more made up shit from
Tman. 1-6 teenagers become dependent. I'll bet 1 in 6 conk squares are addicted to porn and late night raids on the cheesecake hiding in the fridge.

We should make porn, cheesecake, and fridges illegal.

[travelinman67]

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

It's just more made up shit from
Tman. 1-6 teenagers become dependent. I'll bet 1 in 6 conk squares are addicted to porn and late night raids on the cheesecake hiding in the fridge.

We should make porn, cheesecake, and fridges illegal.

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[CAA Flagship]

Good for Willie. How is Jerry Garcia doing?

Yeah, cause he died of a pot overdose.

Either you don't know how he died or you are scrambling under a heavy rush.

[CAA Flagship]

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

It's just more made up shit from
Tman. 1-6 teenagers become dependent. I'll bet 1 in 6 conk squares are addicted to porn and late night raids on the cheesecake hiding in the fridge.

We should make porn, cheesecake, and fridges illegal.

You forgot "late nights".

[kalm]

Yeah, cause he died of a pot overdose.

Either you don't know how he died or you are scrambling under a heavy rush.

He died of a heart attack while scuba diving IIRC.

[kalm]

It's just more made up shit from
Tman. 1-6 teenagers become dependent. I'll bet 1 in 6 conk squares are addicted to porn and late night raids on the cheesecake hiding in the fridge.

We should make porn, cheesecake, and fridges illegal.

De

flect

Fail

It's less addictive than coffee. And less psychologically and physically harmful than booze. Like Cleets said, why should it matter anyway? Prohibitions don't work and if you're truly against drug use the proven antidote is legalization and treatment as a healthcare issue.

[CAA Flagship]

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Fail

It's less addictive than coffee. And less psychologically and physically harmful than booze. Like Cleets said, why should it matter anyway? Prohibitions don't work and if you're truly against drug use the proven antidote is legalization and treatment as a healthcare issue.

Again, the ACA. Geesh.

[kalm]

It's less addictive than coffee. And less psychologically and physically harmful than booze. Like Cleets said, why should it matter anyway? Prohibitions don't work and if you're truly against drug use the proven antidote is legalization and treatment as a healthcare issue.

Again, the ACA. Geesh.

Again, what does that have to do with anything?

[CAA Flagship]

Either you don't know how he died or you are scrambling under a heavy rush.

He died of a heart attack while scuba diving IIRC.

Scuba Diving?
No.

Last week, in the early morning hours of Wed., Aug. 9, Garcia's heart, 53 years old and ravaged by years of drug abuse and related health problems, gave out on him. The guitarist's comatose body was found before dawn during a routine bed check by a counselor at the Serenity Knolls drug treatment center in the San Francisco Bay Area town of Forest Knolls, where Garcia had checked in after an apparent relapse into a heroin addiction that had plagued him for years. Garcia was pronounced dead at 4:23 a.m. after a staff nurse and a Marin County paramedic each failed to revive him with CPR. "It was clearly a heart attack," says longtime Grateful Dead spokesman Dennis McNally, an opinion supported by the Marin County coroner's preliminary finding that the death "appears to be from natural causes."

"I will more than miss him," says old San Francisco pal Joe McDonald, whose band, Country Joe & the Fish, was a Dead contemporary. "It's just terrible. There's a lesson here. It's a failure to get him to change his lifestyle. He could easily be alive today. He killed himself, make no mistake."

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[Ibanez]

All I can say is:
Thank God the East Coast is way over there... where it belongs

Does anyone else find it absurdly humorous that the most ardent conservative person on this board resides in California?

[Ibanez]

He died of a heart attack while scuba diving IIRC.

Scuba Diving?
No.

Last week, in the early morning hours of Wed., Aug. 9, Garcia's heart, 53 years old and ravaged by years of drug abuse and related health problems, gave out on him. The guitarist's comatose body was found before dawn during a routine bed check by a counselor at the Serenity Knolls drug treatment center in the San Francisco Bay Area town of Forest Knolls, where Garcia had checked in after an apparent relapse into a heroin addiction that had plagued him for years. Garcia was pronounced dead at 4:23 a.m. after a staff nurse and a Marin County paramedic each failed to revive him with CPR. "It was clearly a heart attack," says longtime Grateful Dead spokesman Dennis McNally, an opinion supported by the Marin County coroner's preliminary finding that the death "appears to be from natural causes."

"I will more than miss him," says old San Francisco pal Joe McDonald, whose band, Country Joe & the Fish, was a Dead contemporary. "It's just terrible. There's a lesson here. It's a failure to get him to change his lifestyle. He could easily be alive today. He killed himself, make no mistake."

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Heroin is not on par with Marijuana.

[CAA Flagship]

Again, the ACA. Geesh.

Again, what does that have to do with anything?

I don't like the idea of legalizing something that is THAT unhealthy, AFTER forcing people to pay for other people's health insurance. Fix or abolish the ACA and I wouldn't care.

Again, I don't care about pot or other social issues that don't affect me. I care about money, both mine and my government's.

[kalm]

Again, what does that have to do with anything?

I don't like the idea of legalizing something that is THAT unhealthy, AFTER forcing people to pay for other people's health insurance. Fix or abolish the ACA and I wouldn't care.

Again, I don't care about pot or other social issues that don't affect me. I care about money, both mine and my government's.

Pot may have a net positive affect on health. At worst, it's a push.

[CAA Flagship]

Scuba Diving?
No.



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Heroin is not on par with Marijuana.

No shit. He died of heart disease. Likely caused by smoking cigarettes and pot.

[CAA Flagship]

I don't like the idea of legalizing something that is THAT unhealthy, AFTER forcing people to pay for other people's health insurance. Fix or abolish the ACA and I wouldn't care.

Again, I don't care about pot or other social issues that don't affect me. I care about money, both mine and my government's.

Pot may have a net positive affect on health. At worst, it's a push.

I might win the lottery so I'm going to go out and by a plane today.

[kalm]

Pot may have a net positive affect on health. At worst, it's a push.

I might win the lottery so I'm going to go out and by a plane today.

How does the ACA affect it's legalization and your pocket book versus prohibition?

[Ibanez]

Again, what does that have to do with anything?

I don't like the idea of legalizing something that is THAT unhealthy, AFTER forcing people to pay for other people's health insurance. Fix or abolish the ACA and I wouldn't care.

Again, I don't care about pot or other social issues that don't affect me. I care about money, both mine and my government's.

You've always paid for other peoples health insurance. Excluding this year, aside from dental cleanings, I rarely if ever have to use my insurance. That money isn't just sitting in an account for me, ready to be used (boy, I wish it were!) but it's not. My premiums, for the most part, go unused by me and subsidize people that have a greater need for that money. Mostly, people who live an unhealthy lifestyle that predicates a need for multiple medications to fix problems that could be dealt with a sensible diet. Diabetes, for one, can be handled without medical intervention.

And for fat people, that can't do push-aways, to get liposuction, tummy tucks, diabetes medication/supplies, etc......

[Ibanez]

Heroin is not on par with Marijuana.

No shit. He died of heart disease. Likely caused by smoking cigarettes and pot.

Funyons.

[CAA Flagship]

I might win the lottery so I'm going to go out and by a plane today.

How does the ACA affect it's legalization?

Apparently it hasn't.

Seriously, what?

[CAA Flagship]

No shit. He died of heart disease. Likely caused by smoking cigarettes and pot.

Funyons.

Pre ACA.

[CAA Flagship]

I don't like the idea of legalizing something that is THAT unhealthy, AFTER forcing people to pay for other people's health insurance. Fix or abolish the ACA and I wouldn't care.

Again, I don't care about pot or other social issues that don't affect me. I care about money, both mine and my government's.

You've always paid for other peoples health insurance. Excluding this year, aside from dental cleanings, I rarely if ever have to use my insurance. That money isn't just sitting in an account for me, ready to be used (boy, I wish it were!) but it's not. My premiums, for the most part, go unused by me and subsidize people that have a greater need for that money. Mostly, people who live an unhealthy lifestyle that predicates a need for multiple medications to fix problems that could be dealt with a sensible diet. Diabetes, for one, can be handled without medical intervention.

And for fat people, that can't do push-aways, to get liposuction, tummy tucks, diabetes medication/supplies, etc......

If I contracted with Anthem for health coverage, I may have paid for some of the other Anthem subscribers, but not those with other carriers. But EVERYONE was already a subscriber.

[kalm]

You've always paid for other peoples health insurance. Excluding this year, aside from dental cleanings, I rarely if ever have to use my insurance. That money isn't just sitting in an account for me, ready to be used (boy, I wish it were!) but it's not. My premiums, for the most part, go unused by me and subsidize people that have a greater need for that money. Mostly, people who live an unhealthy lifestyle that predicates a need for multiple medications to fix problems that could be dealt with a sensible diet. Diabetes, for one, can be handled without medical intervention.

And for fat people, that can't do push-aways, to get liposuction, tummy tucks, diabetes medication/supplies, etc......

If I contracted with Anthem for health coverage, I may have paid for some of the other Anthem subscribers, but not those with other carriers. But EVERYONE was already a subscriber.

Anthem's prices were influenced by other insurers. So yes, you did.

If you're really worried about the ACA and your pocketbook, you should be pissed at big insurance.

[CAA Flagship]

If I contracted with Anthem for health coverage, I may have paid for some of the other Anthem subscribers, but not those with other carriers. But EVERYONE was already a subscriber.

Anthem's prices were influenced by other insurers. So yes, you did.

If you're really worried about the ACA and your pocketbook, you should be pissed at big insurance.

I am pissed at big insurance, along with big government.

Will pot use increase or decrease with legalization? Is pot use healthy, unhealthy, neither, or we don't fully know yet?