Libtards:Pedophilia A Disorder, Not A Crime

[Ibanez]

[quote="clenz"]It takes a lot for me to side with tge kyjelly's of the world... But he fucking killed you in this thread[/quote
That isn't difficult. Tman has gone off the rails. He's the new PsychoCat.

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It takes a lot for me to side with tge kyjelly's of the world... But he fucking killed you in this thread[/quote
That isn't difficult. Tman has gone off the rails. He's the new PsychoCat.

[travelinman67]

The purpose of the article was to advocate protected class status for people diagnosed as pedophiles.

This would require businesses, schools, housing and govt. agencies to provide accomodations for the pedophiles in the same manner as a paraplegic war vet.

In all fairness, I would argue people who dream and obsess about violently raping women have a "disorder". Based upon the libtard response in this thread, the poor, disordered rape-dreamers should be allowed to loiter in shopping malls, park benches, bus stops, to glare at women and feed their disorder, so long as they don't act on it.
Find a weak cutey? Go ahead and follow her, imagining how great it would feel to sneak up behind her, choke her until she passes out. Quickly, you rip off her clothes, throw her on her back, then wait for her to awaken before you *********** ****** her while punching her face as she screams. Once you've finished, you wait for a moment before telling her you're HIV positive, then calmly walk away as she hysterically cries.

But, it's all good!!

It's just a fantasy and that woman you're staring at doesn't know what you're thinking. You then drive back to your protected class job, where you'll head home at the end of the day to your "set aside" apartment, with no women renters (too much of a temptation).



This is, apparently, what y'all are advocating.

Tman, this post of yours is false. No one here is advocating what you say they are. Do you care to address this or will you just act like a petulant child and call me names and assume I'm some bleeding heart liberal?

JMFC...

...the article has NOTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINALIZING pedophilia without action!

The article DOES advocate making pedophilia an APA disorder with "class protections".

My analogy asserts that the same disorder which afflicts pedophiles could arguably be applied to other sexual predators.

At face value, the article proposes providing super-normal rights and privileges to a class of sexual predators.

Is
That
Simple
Enough
To
Understand
?

Yeah...

...I'm the problem.

[Ibanez]

Tman, this post of yours is false. No one here is advocating what you say they are. Do you care to address this or will you just act like a petulant child and call me names and assume I'm some bleeding heart liberal?

JMFC...

...the article has NOTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINALIZING pedophilia without action!

The article DOES advocate making pedophilia an APA disorder with "class protections".

My analogy asserts that the same disorder which afflicts pedophiles could arguably be applied to other sexual predators.

At face value, the article proposes providing super-normal rights and privileges to a class of sexual predators.

Is
That
Simple
Enough
To
Understand
?

Yeah...

...I'm the problem.

So where do you get off making a false claim that people that have responded to this thread are advocates making them a protected class? Or are absurd assumptions thrown at a people that think differently than you acceptable?

[CAA Flagship]

JMFC...

...the article has NOTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINALIZING pedophilia without action!

The article DOES advocate making pedophilia an APA disorder with "class protections".

My analogy asserts that the same disorder which afflicts pedophiles could arguably be applied to other sexual predators.

At face value, the article proposes providing super-normal rights and privileges to a class of sexual predators.

Is
That
Simple
Enough
To
Understand
?

Yeah...

...I'm the problem.

So where do you get off making a false claim that people that have responded to this thread are advocates making them a protected class? Or are absurd assumptions thrown at a people that think differently than you acceptable?

I think that would be called fighting fire with fire.
Meaning, it's how things work in this forum.

[Ibanez]

So where do you get off making a false claim that people that have responded to this thread are advocates making them a protected class? Or are absurd assumptions thrown at a people that think differently than you acceptable?

I think that would be called fighting fire with fire.
Meaning, it's how things work in this forum.

He isn't fighting shit. He's just throwing mud, seeing what'll stick. He ASSUMED people on here that are more liberal than himself would want to make pedophiles (or anyone with a mental illness) a protected class. I highly doubt any liberal minded person on here is saying that. I wouldn't want to see "and those suffering from mental illness" tacked onto the end of an EOE statement. Mental Illness needs to be dealt with. Remove the stigma, get these people help and get them on the road to lives that aren't burdened by whatever haunts them.

My friend Brian would still be here if the US Army hadn't medically discharged him for bi-polar disorder and let him loose onto the world. They knew he was bi-polar 6 years before his suicide and the NEVER alerted his family. They never told him. It was only until after his death that his parents learned of this. And what did the Army give Brian in return? A flag, military honors at the funeral and a US Army chest.

[clenz]

I think that would be called fighting fire with fire.
Meaning, it's how things work in this forum.

He isn't fighting shit. He's just throwing mud, seeing what'll stick. He ASSUMED people on here that are more liberal than himself would want to make pedophiles (or anyone with a mental illness) a protected class. I highly doubt any liberal minded person on here is saying that. I wouldn't want to see "and those suffering from mental illness" tacked onto the end of an EOE statement. Mental Illness needs to be dealt with. Remove the stigma, get these people help and get them on the road to lives that aren't burdened by whatever haunts them.

My friend Brian would still be here if the US Army hadn't medically discharged him for bi-polar disorder and let him loose onto the world. They knew he was bi-polar 6 years before his suicide and the NEVER alerted his family. They never told him. It was only until after his death that his parents learned of this. And what did the Army give Brian in return? A flag, military honors at the funeral and a US Army chest.

Boom...this...

a billion times this.


The stigma of mental health issues needs to go away, but people like t-man will never let that happen.


There is a big news story in Iowa right now. 6 years ago the best, and most famous, high school football coach in America was killed by a former player at a summer morning lifting session. Turns out, now that he has been sentenced to life in prison and is getting help, he has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic. His mother wrote a book about dealing with him as a kid, and how they fought for years to get him psychiatric help but couldn't.


For those that don't remember the story
http://espn.go.com/high-school/football ... ed-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mark-b ... 963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/book-b ... tIpr3RY.99

PARKERSBURG, Iowa — The mother of the man who shot and killed a legendary Aplington-Parkersburg coach is raising awareness about mental illness through the pages of a new book.

“There are some very difficult places here, but it’s the reality of it,” Joan Becker said.

It’s tough for even Joan Becker to read what she wrote in the book that she recently finished.

“I want people to understand this is my story of how I saw and lived through this ordeal,” Joan Becker said.

Tuesday, June 24, marks five years since Aplington-Parkersburg football coach Ed Thomas was murdered. Former student Mark Becker shot and killed him in the school’s temporary weight room in 2009. Thomas was working with a group of student athletes when Becker opened fire, hitting Thomas several times.

Joan said she started keeping a journal when Mark was in high school, writing details about the episodes he experienced. One story recalls the time Mark mentioned Ed Thomas during one of his delusions in the middle of the night.

“You don’t believe me do you? Can’t you see? Thomas is sending them to attack me. They are here right now. Maybe I better go to town and talk some sense into Ed and you guys too,” Becker said as she read an excerpt from her book.

She said Mark struggles with Paranoid Schizophrenia. The book also includes recent letters from her son talking about his experiences.

Joan said the family was desperately trying to get a diagnosis when the tragedy happened, but an appointment with a psychiatrist wasn’t scheduled until July.

“They tried to get him in but because of the shortage of psychiatrists that was a July appointment — too late for our son,” Becker said.

Joan knows, however, that it’s not too late to help other families. She hopes to push others to ask more questions about mental illness and to never give up hope that things can get better.

“I can be open and if that helps other people trying to deal with this illness, families or individuals themselves, then it is so worth putting ourselves out there,” Becker said.

Joan says Mark wasn’t officially diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia until after he was incarcerated. He is currently serving a life sentence. She visits him about once a month and says he’s getting the treatment he needs.

Joan is hopeful the book will be published soon, and said she plans to give any proceeds to organizations that help people with mental health issues.

[D1B]

Fellas, keep in mind Tbag is mentally ill and is probably having similar difficulty getting professional help.

A little compassion.

[travelinman67]

He isn't fighting shit. He's just throwing mud, seeing what'll stick. He ASSUMED people on here that are more liberal than himself would want to make pedophiles (or anyone with a mental illness) a protected class. I highly doubt any liberal minded person on here is saying that. I wouldn't want to see "and those suffering from mental illness" tacked onto the end of an EOE statement. Mental Illness needs to be dealt with. Remove the stigma, get these people help and get them on the road to lives that aren't burdened by whatever haunts them.

My friend Brian would still be here if the US Army hadn't medically discharged him for bi-polar disorder and let him loose onto the world. They knew he was bi-polar 6 years before his suicide and the NEVER alerted his family. They never told him. It was only until after his death that his parents learned of this. And what did the Army give Brian in return? A flag, military honors at the funeral and a US Army chest.

Boom...this...

a billion times this.


The stigma of mental health issues needs to go away, but people like t-man will never let that happen.


There is a big news story in Iowa right now. 6 years ago the best, and most famous, high school football coach in America was killed by a former player at a summer morning lifting session. Turns out, now that he has been sentenced to life in prison and is getting help, he has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic. His mother wrote a book about dealing with him as a kid, and how they fought for years to get him psychiatric help but couldn't.


For those that don't remember the story
http://espn.go.com/high-school/football ... ed-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mark-b ... 963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/book-b ... tIpr3RY.99

PARKERSBURG, Iowa — The mother of the man who shot and killed a legendary Aplington-Parkersburg coach is raising awareness about mental illness through the pages of a new book.

“There are some very difficult places here, but it’s the reality of it,” Joan Becker said.

It’s tough for even Joan Becker to read what she wrote in the book that she recently finished.

“I want people to understand this is my story of how I saw and lived through this ordeal,” Joan Becker said.

Tuesday, June 24, marks five years since Aplington-Parkersburg football coach Ed Thomas was murdered. Former student Mark Becker shot and killed him in the school’s temporary weight room in 2009. Thomas was working with a group of student athletes when Becker opened fire, hitting Thomas several times.

Joan said she started keeping a journal when Mark was in high school, writing details about the episodes he experienced. One story recalls the time Mark mentioned Ed Thomas during one of his delusions in the middle of the night.

“You don’t believe me do you? Can’t you see? Thomas is sending them to attack me. They are here right now. Maybe I better go to town and talk some sense into Ed and you guys too,” Becker said as she read an excerpt from her book.

She said Mark struggles with Paranoid Schizophrenia. The book also includes recent letters from her son talking about his experiences.

Joan said the family was desperately trying to get a diagnosis when the tragedy happened, but an appointment with a psychiatrist wasn’t scheduled until July.

“They tried to get him in but because of the shortage of psychiatrists that was a July appointment — too late for our son,” Becker said.

Joan knows, however, that it’s not too late to help other families. She hopes to push others to ask more questions about mental illness and to never give up hope that things can get better.

“I can be open and if that helps other people trying to deal with this illness, families or individuals themselves, then it is so worth putting ourselves out there,” Becker said.

Joan says Mark wasn’t officially diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia until after he was incarcerated. He is currently serving a life sentence. She visits him about once a month and says he’s getting the treatment he needs.

Joan is hopeful the book will be published soon, and said she plans to give any proceeds to organizations that help people with mental health issues.

Clenz, you have now spun my statements into inhumane apathy towards non-predatory mental disorders.

Specifically, I have discussed pedophiles and rapists. I have NEVER advocated withholding treatment for properly diagnosed disorders. Don't forget, Clenz, this rally to decriminalize sexual disorders just began a few years ago and was an extrapolation of the LGBT legitimazation.

If there's a victim, it's not legitimate.

[Ibanez]

Boom...this...

a billion times this.


The stigma of mental health issues needs to go away, but people like t-man will never let that happen.


There is a big news story in Iowa right now. 6 years ago the best, and most famous, high school football coach in America was killed by a former player at a summer morning lifting session. Turns out, now that he has been sentenced to life in prison and is getting help, he has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic. His mother wrote a book about dealing with him as a kid, and how they fought for years to get him psychiatric help but couldn't.


For those that don't remember the story
http://espn.go.com/high-school/football ... ed-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mark-b ... 963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clenz, you have now spun my statements into inhumane apathy towards non-predatory mental disorders.

Specifically, I have discussed pedophiles and rapists. I have NEVER advocated withholding treatment for properly diagnosed disorders. Don't forget, Clenz, this rally to decriminalize sexual disorders just began a few years ago and was an extrapolation of the LGBT legitimazation.

If there's a victim, it's not legitimate.

Who are you to say pedophilia isn't a "properly diagnosed disorder?" We should help these people, especially those that go out of there way to remove temptations. I don't recall any calls, protests, sit ins, rally's to "decriminalize sexual disorders". Are you of the opinion that transgendered people are mentally ill suffering from a sexual disorder where they believe they should be the opposite sex?

That's an honest question. To me, it seems that there is something off in the brain or something that got screwed up during development, e.g. when the person was a fetus, they were given boy parts but were wired to be female.

I don't know, i'm not a scientist.

[kalm]

Boom...this...

a billion times this.


The stigma of mental health issues needs to go away, but people like t-man will never let that happen.


There is a big news story in Iowa right now. 6 years ago the best, and most famous, high school football coach in America was killed by a former player at a summer morning lifting session. Turns out, now that he has been sentenced to life in prison and is getting help, he has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic. His mother wrote a book about dealing with him as a kid, and how they fought for years to get him psychiatric help but couldn't.


For those that don't remember the story
http://espn.go.com/high-school/football ... ed-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mark-b ... 963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clenz, you have now spun my statements into inhumane apathy towards non-predatory mental disorders.

Specifically, I have discussed pedophiles and rapists. I have NEVER advocated withholding treatment for properly diagnosed disorders. Don't forget, Clenz, this rally to decriminalize sexual disorders just began a few years ago and was an extrapolation of the LGBT legitimazation.

If there's a victim, it's not legitimate.

What does LGBT have to do with pedophilia and rape?

[Ibanez]

Clenz, you have now spun my statements into inhumane apathy towards non-predatory mental disorders.

Specifically, I have discussed pedophiles and rapists. I have NEVER advocated withholding treatment for properly diagnosed disorders. Don't forget, Clenz, this rally to decriminalize sexual disorders just began a few years ago and was an extrapolation of the LGBT legitimazation.

If there's a victim, it's not legitimate.

What does LGBT have to do with pedophilia and rape?

Everything and nothing?

[travelinman67]

[travelinman67]

Clenz, you have now spun my statements into inhumane apathy towards non-predatory mental disorders.

Specifically, I have discussed pedophiles and rapists. I have NEVER advocated withholding treatment for properly diagnosed disorders. Don't forget, Clenz, this rally to decriminalize sexual disorders just began a few years ago and was an extrapolation of the LGBT legitimazation.

If there's a victim, it's not legitimate.

Who are you to say pedophilia isn't a "properly diagnosed disorder?" We should help these people, especially those that go out of there way to remove temptations. I don't recall any calls, protests, sit ins, rally's to "decriminalize sexual disorders". Are you of the opinion that transgendered people are mentally ill suffering from a sexual disorder where they believe they should be the opposite sex?

That's an honest question. To me, it seems that there is something off in the brain or something that got screwed up during development, e.g. when the person was a fetus, they were given boy parts but were wired to be female.

I don't know, i'm not a scientist.

Here we go again...

Ibanez, you're talking out your ass. There was a significant debate during the update to DSM-5 (psychiatric disorder definitions) in 2012-3 over sexual disorders under Axis II. The debate was spearheaded by numerous LGBT organizations. Emboldened by the "softening" of languages, Pedophilia advocacy groups took the opportunity to request modifications to pedophilia definitions suggesting pedophilia was an "interest" not a sexual orientation, thus taking a step towards making pedophilia a non-criminal act.

Look, I'm growing weary of low info CS libtards flapping their gums just to feel the breeze.

I realize the local trend is to argue for the sake of argument, but at least have enough self respect to study the topic before embarrassing yourself.

[Cap'n Cat]

T,
You started a very stoopid thread, ran down some very stoopid bunny holes and you're dying very publicly on a stoopid cross. Sad, sad, sad and embarrassing to watch….

Throw away the shovel 'n get back in bed, old-timer.

Conkunism is dying, so are you.

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Fellas, keep in mind Tbag is mentally ill and is probably having similar difficulty getting professional help.

A little compassion.

[travelinman67]

Fellas, keep in mind Tbag is mentally ill and is probably having similar difficulty getting professional help.

A little compassion.

Telly Savalas?

Really?

Bald and benign?

Fuck!

I don't suppose...

[Ibanez]

Dude. If you think I give a flying fuck or waste my time following pedophile causes you're dreaming. Axis II? You have put way too much thought into this. You're the worst kind of person, a hyper aggressive know it all that can't stand it when someone has the nerve to think differently. You're the problem with America. You are exactly like Obama. Thank god you have zero power or influence.

Btw, you act like a child. Grow up.

[Ibanez]

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[JohnStOnge]

I'll just go ahead and take this opportunity to say that there is absolutely no real basis for saying that pedophilia is a disorder while homosexuality is not. Pedophilia is no more a misdirected sex drive than homosexuality is.

Yet most people accept the absurd notion that homosexuality is not a disorder because that's what the experts tell them.

[travelinman67]

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You need anger management.

Then therapy.

Go back to the beginning of this thread.

I was criticizing the Times and article author Kaplan.

CS donks initiated personal attacks...

...without having read the article.

If anyone is out of line, it's you and the donk chorus, Ibanez.

Look in a mirror occasionally before you make personal attacks.

[D1B]

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You need anger management.

Then therapy.

Go back to the beginning of this thread.

I was criticizing the Times and article author Kaplan.

CS donks initiated personal attacks...

...without having read the article.

If anyone is out of line, it's you and the donk chorus, Ibanez.

Look in a mirror occasionally before you make personal attacks.

This is your brain not on meds.

[kalm]

I'll just go ahead and take this opportunity to say that there is absolutely no real basis for saying that pedophilia is a disorder while homosexuality is not. Pedophilia is no more a misdirected sex drive than homosexuality is.

Yet most people accept the absurd notion that homosexuality is not a disorder because that's what the experts tell them.

Consensual adults...

[Ibanez]

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You need anger management.

Then therapy.

Go back to the beginning of this thread.

I was criticizing the Times and article author Kaplan.

CS donks initiated personal attacks...

...without having read the article.

If anyone is out of line, it's you and the donk chorus, Ibanez.

Look in a mirror occasionally before you make personal attacks.

I'm out of line? Coming from you, that's a compliment.
First, you make a wild ass assumption (one you have yet to own up to).
Second, the first person to make any personal attack was D1b, not me. So take it up with him.
Third, I read the article.
Fourth, I said you "need therapy" after you personally attacked someone else. Take a look in that mirror, boy-o.
Fifth, no therapy is needed. I'm kosher. In the end, it's a football message board. There are far more important and REAL things to worry about.

It's YOU who needs to look into the mirror. You come here, holier than thou, thinking your shit don't stink and honestly, it's irritating as shit. I have never seen you once own up to a mistake. I've done it. WTAG has done it. D1B has done it.

So, put that in your pipe in smoke it.

[Ibanez]

So much anger. You need therapy.

Libtard makes false statement.
Libtard acknowledges having not read article prior to fabricating false statement.
Conk calls out Libtard's ignorance.
Conk needs therapy.

That's your judgement?

Okey dokey, D1banez.

You call that an attack?
T-man, I am sorry for saying you need therapy. I did not realize that this would make you so angry. Please forgive me.

Ibanez.