SunCoastBlueHen wrote:I love how we try to apply human qualities, like emotions, to God to try to understand whatever God is. I don't know much, but I do know God ain't some robed dude with a white beard sitting up in the clouds throwing down rainbows when he's happy and lightning bolts when he's pissed off.
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I admit, I know nothing about your God. I only explained God as I understand God.D1B wrote:What a **** douchebag.Gil Dobie wrote:Kind of goes along with the quote from the Bible, "Faith without work is dead".
If you are going to pray for a garden, pray with a hoe in your hand. God doesn't magically grow the garden, the person has to take some action to make the garden grow. To me, it's much more gratifying if I do the work and reap the benefits of some good fresh veggies, than not be happy and have a blank patch of black earth. Making yourself happy is taking that action that leads to happiness, at that point you are able to help others achieve happiness, which makes God happy.
This leads to the old adage that you can't help others without taking care of yourself first. Many a philanthropist have taken care of themselves first and later worked with helping people that did not have the advantages they had.
You know absolutely nothing about god.
Some people consider this a religious topic, others a spiritual topic, or a way of life topic about doing the right thing.FCS PATRIOTS wrote:SunCoast Blue Hen, in years of religion posts, just gave the best answer ever. We should NEVER bring religious topics up again. He nailed it.
I know and you're lightyears ahead of others on this board. Nice work.Gil Dobie wrote:I admit, I know nothing about your God. I only explained God as I understand God.D1B wrote:
What a **** douchebag.
You know absolutely nothing about god.
But you're made in God's image. So..is God an asshole?D1B wrote:I know and you're lightyears ahead of others on this board. Nice work.Gil Dobie wrote:
I admit, I know nothing about your God. I only explained God as I understand God.
You see, I'm an asshole. I just can help it. God made me what I am.
No you didn't, Twinkman67. Your rotting entrails litter that thread.travelinman67 wrote:He's just butt-sore because I decimated his ass in the "Leftists Revising College Curricula" thread a few days back.89Hen wrote:You do have a sense of humor.
No. God is totally fair.Ibanez wrote:But you're made in God's image. So..is God an asshole?D1B wrote:
I know and you're lightyears ahead of others on this board. Nice work.
You see, I'm an asshole. I just can help it. God made me what I am.
because YOU SAID SOD1B wrote:No you didn't, Twinkman67. Your rotting entrails litter that thread.travelinman67 wrote:
He's just butt-sore because I decimated his ass in the "Leftists Revising College Curricula" thread a few days back.
Amongst others.89Hen wrote:because YOU SAID SOD1B wrote:
No you didn't, Twinkman67. Your rotting entrails litter that thread.
travelinman67 wrote:He's just butt-sore because I decimated his ass in the "Leftists Revising College Curricula" thread a few days back.89Hen wrote:
You or your girls don't need your god. He is not worthy of your worship.andy7171 wrote:I live my life and raise my girls as best as I can. If that pleases Him or not. That is what I do. All in his name.
There is a difference between working for what you have or working hard to help others and simply teaching to people that "if you just believe harder, you will receive it from God". That is where they go wrong. You can't just start thinking harder about God's provisions and create them into existence. They teach idolatry, plain and simple. They don't teach about salvation. They don't teach about Christ.Gil Dobie wrote:Kind of goes along with the quote from the Bible, "Faith without work is dead".
If you are going to pray for a garden, pray with a hoe in your hand. God doesn't magically grow the garden, the person has to take some action to make the garden grow. To me, it's much more gratifying if I do the work and reap the benefits of some good fresh veggies, than not be happy and have a blank patch of black earth. Making yourself happy is taking that action that leads to happiness, at that point you are able to help others achieve happiness, which makes God happy.
This leads to the old adage that you can't help others without taking care of yourself first. Many a philanthropist have taken care of themselves first and later worked with helping people that did not have the advantages they had.
I agree with you. I go to church every Sunday. But a lot goes into how you live your life. Away from church. And applying what Jesus did in his life not what a priest says. D1b rants about the child abuse in the church. I can't lie. It effects how I look at them. But most are truly called to what they do. People who are outspoken about god I stay away from. It's just uncomfortable being around them. We all have failures. No one is perfect. I certainly am not. But I try to forgive and forget. Having faith doesn't give you the answers. It gives you grace to live with the questions.MSUDuo wrote:There is a difference between working for what you have or working hard to help others and simply teaching to people that "if you just believe harder, you will receive it from God". That is where they go wrong. You can't just start thinking harder about God's provisions and create them into existence. They teach idolatry, plain and simple. They don't teach about salvation. They don't teach about Christ.Gil Dobie wrote:Kind of goes along with the quote from the Bible, "Faith without work is dead".
If you are going to pray for a garden, pray with a hoe in your hand. God doesn't magically grow the garden, the person has to take some action to make the garden grow. To me, it's much more gratifying if I do the work and reap the benefits of some good fresh veggies, than not be happy and have a blank patch of black earth. Making yourself happy is taking that action that leads to happiness, at that point you are able to help others achieve happiness, which makes God happy.
This leads to the old adage that you can't help others without taking care of yourself first. Many a philanthropist have taken care of themselves first and later worked with helping people that did not have the advantages they had.
With that said, I do believe they have small part right. God is happy when we are happy. As long as what we are doing to make ourselves happy brings Him glory. At the same time, God is happy when we are broken to the point where we have nowhere to turn but to Him.
To even think we can start to grapple with and understand God is beyond my comprehension. (I'm sure there is joke in there some where)
Yes. This. It's a personal relationship between you and him. I don't talk about it unless asked. And my response is usually "I'm a practicing Catholic". And end it there. It's too uncomfortable to vocalize the relationship. I know where I stand and my failures. No one needs to know that. Whatever your denomination I don't care. It's all based on who didn't like someone else's rules or what ever. I don't care. I choose to go my route. I'm not going to say if one is better than another.Chizzang wrote:Honestly I kinda like that Osteen guy, he always makes me smile when he's doing his thing... I'm not sure Mrs. Osteen should be trailing off script too often but whatever, she means well and is basically harmless
And much to what Andy said:
Every person has to make their own way through this GOD thing - and those that are too loud about what they claim to know about god are mostly sad pathetic creatures begging for your attention...
The God thing is an inside job
You nailed it, "To Each His Own"andy7171 wrote:Yes. This. It's a personal relationship between you and him. I don't talk about it unless asked. And my response is usually "I'm a practicing Catholic". And end it there. It's too uncomfortable to vocalize the relationship. I know where I stand and my failures. No one needs to know that. Whatever your denomination I don't care. It's all based on who didn't like someone else's rules or what ever. I don't care. I choose to go my route. I'm not going to say if one is better than another.Chizzang wrote:Honestly I kinda like that Osteen guy, he always makes me smile when he's doing his thing... I'm not sure Mrs. Osteen should be trailing off script too often but whatever, she means well and is basically harmless
And much to what Andy said:
Every person has to make their own way through this GOD thing - and those that are too loud about what they claim to know about god are mostly sad pathetic creatures begging for your attention...
The God thing is an inside job
Except on St Patricks Day. **** who wear orange are fair game.
+6.93Gil Dobie wrote:You nailed it, "To Each His Own"andy7171 wrote: Yes. This. It's a personal relationship between you and him. I don't talk about it unless asked. And my response is usually "I'm a practicing Catholic". And end it there. It's too uncomfortable to vocalize the relationship. I know where I stand and my failures. No one needs to know that. Whatever your denomination I don't care. It's all based on who didn't like someone else's rules or what ever. I don't care. I choose to go my route. I'm not going to say if one is better than another.
Except on St Patricks Day. **** who wear orange are fair game.
Well said.andy7171 wrote:I agree with you. I go to church every Sunday. But a lot goes into how you live your life. Away from church. And applying what Jesus did in his life not what a priest says. D1b rants about the child abuse in the church. I can't lie. It effects how I look at them. But most are truly called to what they do. People who are outspoken about god I stay away from. It's just uncomfortable being around them. We all have failures. No one is perfect. I certainly am not. But I try to forgive and forget. Having faith doesn't give you the answers. It gives you grace to live with the questions.MSUDuo wrote:
There is a difference between working for what you have or working hard to help others and simply teaching to people that "if you just believe harder, you will receive it from God". That is where they go wrong. You can't just start thinking harder about God's provisions and create them into existence. They teach idolatry, plain and simple. They don't teach about salvation. They don't teach about Christ.
With that said, I do believe they have small part right. God is happy when we are happy. As long as what we are doing to make ourselves happy brings Him glory. At the same time, God is happy when we are broken to the point where we have nowhere to turn but to Him.
To even think we can start to grapple with and understand God is beyond my comprehension. (I'm sure there is joke in there some where)
