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Re: Democrats in doghouse among men, whites, older

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Grizalltheway wrote:I think we can surmise that he wants Congress to sign off on the funding that provides his paycheck, healthcare and retirement, THEN get the hell out of his way.
they havent done that in YEARS, smartass

its called a continuing resolution

and Im retired so that healthcare and retirement are already taken care of

keep trying
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Re: Democrats in doghouse among men, whites, older

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CID1990 wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
Yeah sure. We should vote against the guy who claims to be looking out for us. :dunce:

That's gotta be one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen, and BDK posts here. Nice work. :thumb: :?
dont be mad, dude

You're the one who wants to be looked out for, apparently

how's that working out for you?

Youre the one who played the "nobody looks out for me" card
Nice straw man there straw brain. I guess it's good that you are retired, 'cause you clearly have Alzheimers.
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CID1990 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:I think we can surmise that he wants Congress to sign off on the funding that provides his paycheck, healthcare and retirement, THEN get the hell out of his way.
they havent done that in YEARS, smartass

its called a continuing resolution

and Im retired so that healthcare and retirement are already taken care of

keep trying
I honestly think it's fantastic that the government is taking care of you, CID. You deserve it!
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CID1990 wrote: This is the problem with this country and our expectations

I dont want EITHER party to "look out for me"

I want them to make sure we arent going to get overrun by Russia, China, The Vatican or Luxembourg. I want them to make sure the buses run on time, fix the fvcking roads at night get the hell out of the way of processes that regulate themselves and then SHUT THE FVCK UP

I dont need any of those fvcking nrainless junket monkeys looking out for me. My life expectancy will be longer and my blood pressure lower if they JUST DONT

the rest of you can have congress wipe your asses fir you if you like but dont bitch when they fvck it up and you get assburn

Will you marry me...?

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote: This is the problem with this country and our expectations

I dont want EITHER party to "look out for me"

I want them to make sure we arent going to get overrun by Russia, China, The Vatican or Luxembourg. I want them to make sure the buses run on time, fix the fvcking roads at night get the hell out of the way of processes that regulate themselves and then SHUT THE FVCK UP

I dont need any of those fvcking nrainless junket monkeys looking out for me. My life expectancy will be longer and my blood pressure lower if they JUST DONT

the rest of you can have congress wipe your asses fir you if you like but dont bitch when they fvck it up and you get assburn

Will you marry me...?

:puppy:

(I want your retirement checks)

you two should get a room

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like dal without the syntax and grammar probs

damn shame if you ask me

but nobody did

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Re: Democrats in doghouse among men, whites, older

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
they havent done that in YEARS, smartass

its called a continuing resolution

and Im retired so that healthcare and retirement are already taken care of

keep trying
I honestly think it's fantastic that the government is taking care of you, CID. You deserve it!
try again, Mr. Thoughtful Moderate - my retirement is fully investment funded from my own contributions to which the city of Charleston made none, and my healthcare subsidy is the same. Even my 457 had no matching funds
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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Will you marry me...?

:puppy:

(I want your retirement checks)

you two should get a room

CID used to write well but has descended into haiku

like dal without the syntax and grammar probs

damn shame if you ask me

but nobody did

so **** it
i write on an iphone now and i turned off autocorrect

with my fat fingers, capitalization and punctuation are just an invitation to even more tpyos
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I honestly think it's fantastic that the government is taking care of you, CID. You deserve it!
try again, Mr. Thoughtful Moderate - my retirement is fully investment funded from my own contributions to which the city of Charleston made none, and my healthcare subsidy is the same. Even my 457 had no matching funds
Well I still think you deserve it! :butt:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Hmmm. Pursue a shrinking demographic or continue to shore up the growing demographics you control.

Very difficult decision. :coffee:
And that's why if you're White you're making a mistake in voting for Democrats in races related to who controls the national government. Democrats are not going to be fostering your interests. And it's not just that they "control" the other racial groups. As I wrote in another thread they must OVERWHELMINGLY control them in order to remain competitive. Obama beat Romney by 81% - 18% among Non Whites in 2012 and won the popular vote by 5 percentage points. If their support nationally among non Whites dropped to around what the Republicans' support among Whites, who voted by 59% to 39% for Romney, they would be devastated. They would not be nationally competitive.

And they know it. So they are not going to hesitate to unfairly advance the interests of Non Whites over the interests of Whites. They also are not going to hesitate to gin up racial animus in order to ramp up Non White turnout. That sort of thing.
Identity politics suck and are a contributing factor to the election of shitty candidates. What exactly are "white interests", anyways? Maybe you could argue opposing affirmative action is, but most donks these days aren't going to lift a finger to try and protect it because they know that can make white voters angry, hispanics are generally more concerned with immigration issues, and blacks pretty much give unconditional loyalty to democrats.
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Ivytalk wrote:

you two should get a room

CID used to write well but has descended into haiku

like dal without the syntax and grammar probs

damn shame if you ask me

but nobody did

so fuck it


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Pwns wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
And that's why if you're White you're making a mistake in voting for Democrats in races related to who controls the national government. Democrats are not going to be fostering your interests. And it's not just that they "control" the other racial groups. As I wrote in another thread they must OVERWHELMINGLY control them in order to remain competitive. Obama beat Romney by 81% - 18% among Non Whites in 2012 and won the popular vote by 5 percentage points. If their support nationally among non Whites dropped to around what the Republicans' support among Whites, who voted by 59% to 39% for Romney, they would be devastated. They would not be nationally competitive.

And they know it. So they are not going to hesitate to unfairly advance the interests of Non Whites over the interests of Whites. They also are not going to hesitate to gin up racial animus in order to ramp up Non White turnout. That sort of thing.
Identity politics suck and are a contributing factor to the election of shitty candidates. What exactly are "white interests", anyways? Maybe you could argue opposing affirmative action is, but most donks these days aren't going to lift a finger to try and protect it because they know that can make white voters angry, hispanics are generally more concerned with immigration issues, and blacks pretty much give unconditional loyalty to democrats.
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Chizzang wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:

you two should get a room

CID used to write well but has descended into haiku

like dal without the syntax and grammar probs

damn shame if you ask me

but nobody did

so **** it


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mrklean wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Identity politics suck and are a contributing factor to the election of shitty candidates. What exactly are "white interests", anyways? Maybe you could argue opposing affirmative action is, but most donks these days aren't going to lift a finger to try and protect it because they know that can make white voters angry, hispanics are generally more concerned with immigration issues, and blacks pretty much give unconditional loyalty to democrats.
Affirmative Action is DEAD. Attractive White Women have the upper Hand today. Look who is the spokes person for any company.
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CID1990 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:I think we can surmise that he wants Congress to sign off on the funding that provides his paycheck, healthcare and retirement, THEN get the hell out of his way.
they havent done that in YEARS, smartass

its called a continuing resolution

and Im retired so that healthcare and retirement are already taken care of

keep trying
Are you forgetting the Budget passed in March 2013? :suspicious:
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
they havent done that in YEARS, smartass

its called a continuing resolution

and Im retired so that healthcare and retirement are already taken care of

keep trying
Are you forgetting the Budget passed in March 2013? :suspicious:
You're right

I was so used to living under the CR

But never fear we'll be back on it next year
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BlueHen86 wrote:
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Some of the percentage stuff.
Really? So that's all it takes to hook you?

There is a 100% chance that you are an idiot.
There is a 100% chance you're one of the biggest dumbasses on this board..
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I think you're spending too much time with your pals over on Stormfront, Johnny.. You're trying to convince us the conflict is about race when in fact its much more about class.
Exit polling suggests that, while class (or income level) is a factor, it is not as much of a factor as race is. For example, in the last election, exit polling estimates are that Obama beat the lowest income group defined by the exit polling report (lowest 41%) by 60% to 38%. As noted earlier the exit polling estimates are that he beat Romney among non Whites by 81% to 18%.

The 2012 exit polling report I have access to does not break things down as much as previous reports did. The lowest income group is defined as <$50,000 per year. So it's good to go back to 2008 in order to isolate those in an income range lower than that. In 2008 the lowest income group was defined as those making $15,000 per year or less. Obama beat McCain by 73% to 25% in that group; which accounted for an estimated 6% of voters. Meanwhile, Obama beat McCain by 80% to 18% the Non Whites that accounted for an estimated 27% of voters. If you kind of make the income group size more comparable to the Non White group size by adding to 2 lowest income groups that made up 18% of voters together Obama beat Romney by 64% to 33%. And if you add the three lowest income groups to capture 37 percent of voters Obama beat Romney in that group by 60% to 38%.

So it's clear that if you had to pick one factor, either race or class, that would give you the best chance as a single factor to predict how a randomly selected voter voted it would be race. It's more "important" a factor than class is.

Add to that the fact that the two are related in that Whites have higher incomes on average than Non Whites. What would be interesting would be to isolate just upper income Non Whites with "upper income" defined in a reasonable way. My bet is that you'd see upper income Non Whites votes overwhelmingly for Obama in both races. Maybe not quite as overwhelmingly as among lower income Non Whites but overwhelmingly. I'd also bet that upper income Non Whites voted much more strongly for Obama in both races than lower income Whites did. And I wouldn't even be surprised to find that lower income Whites actually voted majority McCain. Not by as strong a majority as Whites overall. But a majority. Don't know. But wouldn't be a surprise.
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Oh and of course the most predictable thing of all indicated by exit polling is a race thing. It's that Blacks will vote Democrat. You see a Black person and you can immediately be about 95% confident while knowing nothing else about them that if they voted in the last Presidential election they voted for Obama. And if they're old enough to have voted in previous elections you can be about 90% confident that they voted for the Democratic candidate every time they voted.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Oh and of course the most predictable thing of all indicated by exit polling is a race thing. It's that Blacks will vote Democrat. You see a Black person and you can immediately be about 95% confident while knowing nothing else about them that if they voted in the last Presidential election they voted for Obama. And if they're old enough to have voted in previous elections you can be about 90% confident that they voted for the Democratic candidate every time they voted.
You seriously don't get why blacks won't vote for a Republican? :shock: And here I thought you were a master troll....
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BDKJMU wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
Really? So that's all it takes to hook you?

There is a 100% chance that you are an idiot.
There is a 100% chance you're one of the biggest dumbasses on this board..
CHALLENGE!

We also have the libtard corp...Densedawg, Klam, Jellydonut, Deluded1Bullshit, Crap'n Cat, Brownshirt, Hippie, OL FU...
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travelinman67 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
There is a 100% chance you're one of the biggest dumbasses on this board..
CHALLENGE!

We also have the libtard corp...Densedawg, Klam, Jellydonut, Deluded1Bullshit, Crap'n Cat, Brownshirt, Hippie, OL FU...
I'm in good company! :lol:
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travelinman67 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
There is a 100% chance you're one of the biggest dumbasses on this board..
CHALLENGE!

We also have the libtard corp...Densedawg, Klam, Jellydonut, Deluded1Bullshit, Crap'n Cat, Brownshirt, Hippie, OL FU...
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travelinman67 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
There is a 100% chance you're one of the biggest dumbasses on this board..
CHALLENGE!

We also have the libtard corp...Densedawg, Klam, Jellydonut, Deluded1Bullshit, Crap'n Cat, Brownshirt, Hippie, OL FU...

OL FU? Germans?
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Ibanez wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
CHALLENGE!

We also have the libtard corp...Densedawg, Klam, Jellydonut, Deluded1Bullshit, Crap'n Cat, Brownshirt, Hippie, OL FU...

OL FU? Germans?
Yet somehow he leaves himself of the list.
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