Israeli Terrorists?

[Ivytalk]

The "world" refuses to acknowledge that Hamas has no redeeming qualities -- none-- and that,while Israel has no desire to exterminate Palestinian civilians, the reverse is not true, at the highest level at least. Hamas and what passes for Arab "leadership" these days (and many of the others as well) want to wipe Israel off the map, and always have. Israel has made its share of mistakes over the years, but it has the
moral high ground in this dispute. And the latent anti-Semites are crawling out of the woodwork: in France, in Germany, in the USA, and right here on this board.

So question Israel's involvement and you're an anti-semite? I have no dog in this fight IT, just asking questions and that's one of the dumbest statements I've seen you make.

You, BDK, and CID might not like the word occupation but:

The U.S. position

The CIA World Factbook says: "West Bank and Gaza Strip are Israeli-occupied with current status subject to the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement -- permanent status to be determined through further negotiation; Israel removed settlers and military personnel from the Gaza Strip in August 2005."

The U.S. State Department Web site also includes Gaza when it discusses the "occupied" territories. State Department spokeswoman Amanda Harper referred CNN Monday to the department's Web site for any
questions about the status of Gaza, and she noted that the Web site referred to the 2005 disengagement. When asked the department's position on whether Gaza is still occupied, Harper said she would look into it. She has not yet contacted CNN with any more information.

Israel's supreme court

Israel's court system has dealt with legal questions involving Israel's responsibility for Gaza after the
withdrawal in 2005.

In January 2008, the supreme court ruled in a case involving the shipping of fuel into Gaza. "The Israeli Supreme Court determined that since Israel had disengaged from the Gaza Strip it had no effective control over what occurred there," Israel's ministry of foreign affairs says on its Web site. "The judges also determined that Israel had no commitment 'to deal with the welfare of the residents of the Gaza Strip or
to allow unlimited amounts of goods and merchandise' to pass through, but only vital and humanitarian goods."

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Israel still exercises control over the area including for the most part what goes, what goes out, what flies
over, etc. If it walks like a duck….

You overreacted, Mr. Linkmaster. When I spoke of latent or "closet" CS anti-Semites, I had two or three other individuals in mind -- all west of the East Coast, but not you. I clearly said that Israel is not blameless in this dustup. Klam, you love to pull conservatives' chains, but you treat liberals like Kryptonite.

[andy7171]

The Israeli terrorists are actually a standing army defending it's people in bases away from civilian populations. The Gaza freed fighters are hiding among women and firing rockets blindly at Israel filling their own and Israelis. How do the Israeli terrorists defend themselves?

[kalm]

Just because Hamas **** up doesn't mean it's not an occupation. If you don't like the word, how would you describe it?

there isnt an occupation- Gaza is owned and operated by Hamas- there are ZERO Israelis there until a couple weeks ago when they went in to stop the rocket launches and destroy tunnels that BEGIN IN GAZA AND END IN ISRAEL

why would you just make things up and/or lie?

i am as critical as the next person about Israel but on this issue you arent just wrong, you are intentionally so

Intentionally so? Make things up? Lie?

Israel controls what goes in, what comes out, what flies over. If you don't like the word occupy as it's defined by international law, the CIA, etc, come up with your own, but lets not pretend that Gaza is autonomous.

[kalm]

What an anti-Semitic lib...eh CID and IT?

unlike you, i dont toe ideological lines and am capable of differing with people like Scarborough

you are wrong on this conflict just like he is

It was you who claimed that the world is behind Israel except those who read Huffpo. I merely provided an example contrary to that notion. When establishment media starts questioning Israel, it's a big thing.

Unlike you, I'm aware of my tactics and what I actually post. If you spent less time blaming libtards, Huffpo, Daily Kos for everything, and actually approach discussions with an open mind, we might get somewhere.

[kalm]

The Israeli terrorists are actually a standing army defending it's people in bases away from civilian populations. The Gaza freed fighters are hiding among women and firing rockets blindly at Israel filling their own and Israelis. How do the Israeli terrorists defend themselves?

They could start by not blowing up kids playing soccer on a beach, and UN schools.

[andy7171]

Hamas has been repeatedly found guilty of launching and storing rockets IN UN schools!

If there were an active offensive in the Palouse. Would you take your kids to the beach or park? JFC!

[kalm]

Hamas has been repeatedly found guilty of launching and storing rockets IN UN schools!

If there were an active offensive in the Palouse. Would you take your kids to the beach or park? JFC!

And the school most recently hit did not have them and the UN warned IDF 17 times not to hit it.

I would take them fishing, duh. Palestinians have nowhere to go.

[SDHornet]

Support the folks that hide behind children

If we gave them an iron dome they wouldn't have to.

Iron dome is fake, didn't you watch Expandos youtube on it?

[SDHornet]

No pornhub on the Chrome dashboard? I expected more from you.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

[andy7171]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

This. Who started this? And not extrapolation like blaming Reagan for 9/11.

[kalm]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

This. Who started this? And not extrapolation like blaming Reagan for 9/11.

Abraham.

[Grizalltheway]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

This. Who started this? And not extrapolation like blaming Reagan for 9/11.

Geneva Conventions?

[BlueHen86]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

That's only true if you win. If you lose there can be war crimes trials.

[andy7171]

This. Who started this? And not extrapolation like blaming Reagan for 9/11.

Geneva Conventions?

Did any Middle East country or Gaza sign it fucktard??? Back to ignore.

[Grizalltheway]

Geneva Conventions?

Did any Middle East country or Gaza sign it fucktard??? Back to ignore.

Yes, Israel ratified all 4 Geneva Conventions in 1951.
You should stop ignoring me; your dumb ass might actually learn something.

[andy7171]

Was talking about Gaza and the surrounding countries fucknutz.

[DSUrocks07]

Was talking about Gaza and the surrounding countries ****.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pa ... onventions

Looks like they did, and Gaza isn't a country but is part of the Palestinian territories and they also are party to the Geneva Conventions as well.

[DSUrocks07]

No pornhub on the Chrome dashboard? I expected more from you.

Family computer

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

There are no rules in war if you play to win.

That's only true if you win. If you lose there can be war crimes trials.

Deal with that when it comes around if you do war right there is nothing and nobody you won't kill to win.

People that believe in the Geneva convention are easier to kill so let them set a bar and the winner will go above and beyond that to end it quickly.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Geneva Conventions?

Did any Middle East country or Gaza sign it fucktard??? Back to ignore.

Who cares if they did. Ignore it, floor it, and win.

[JohnStOnge]

The reason the Israelis are not terrorists is that they are not using terror as a tactic. They are attempting to identify targets directly related to the enemy's attack capability and destroy it. They do not have the objective of trying to "win" by virtue of terrifying the Palestinian population. It may be that the Palestinian population is terrified. But that's not the objective.

If they were terrorists they would be targeting civilians with the objective of making them feel terrorized. They would not be doing things like trying to warn civilians to get out of the areas they are going to target.

[CID1990]

unlike you, i dont toe ideological lines and am capable of differing with people like Scarborough

you are wrong on this conflict just like he is

It was you who claimed that the world is behind Israel except those who read Huffpo. I merely provided an example contrary to that notion. When establishment media starts questioning Israel, it's a big thing.

Unlike you, I'm aware of my tactics and what I actually post. If you spent less time blaming libtards, Huffpo, Daily Kos for everything, and actually approach discussions with an open mind, we might get somewhere.

says the guy who starts from the position that Israel is wrong

i dont have to blame anyone- Im just pointing out that you are dead wrong on the Gaza issue and i dont have to resort to your mental calisthenics to do it

[93henfan]

The reason the Israelis are not terrorists is that they are not using terror as a tactic.

Oh really? So, 1,700 they've killed in two weeks, 75% of those non-combatants.

They really suck at war then if that's not a terror campaign.

[Grizalltheway]

The only solution is the final solution. And that's not just with respect to the Palestinians. It's with respect to all Muslims.

The solution will not be implemented. But it IS the only solution.

And hundreds of years from now it'll be clear that it was a mistake for the Western World, which does have the power to implement it at this time, not to implement it when it had the chance.

Get a fucking grip, you psychotic fuck.