So Cappy, what should Obama do? What will satisfy you and your tribe? Let's hear it now so that you don't Monday Morning Quarterback Obama's actions with a spin. What should Obama do?Cap'n Cat wrote: "If it is the case, then we're going to have to act and act in the most stringent fashions, including real sanctions, including giving the Ukrainians the ability to defend themselves, which we have not done so far," Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper.
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Where did anyone suggest that we engage in war with Russia?Grizalltheway wrote:Obviously there should be some kind of response, but do you really want an all-out war between two countries with enough nukes to destroy the solar system?andy7171 wrote:So Cappy what do we, the US, do? Someone shot down 300 people with a surface to air missile. Just sweep it under the rug and blame Bush and the House Republicans?
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For startersCAA Flagship wrote:So Cappy, what should Obama do? What will satisfy you and your tribe? Let's hear it now so that you don't Monday Morning Quarterback Obama's actions with a spin. What should Obama do?Cap'n Cat wrote: "If it is the case, then we're going to have to act and act in the most stringent fashions, including real sanctions, including giving the Ukrainians the ability to defend themselves, which we have not done so far," Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper.
1) if Obama actually listens to or uses the UN that would be 100% the opposite of what Bush did
2) If he actually uses intelligence to determine the culprit that would be 100% the opposite as well
3) If he directly engages the guilty country that too would be 100% the opposite
I can't wait to see what he does...
The last guy set the bar pretty low
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That didn't work out too well for Japan, and we know history repeats itself.Chizzang wrote:A real president would immediately declare war on "something"Grizalltheway wrote:
Obviously there should be some kind of response, but do you really want an all-out war between two countries with enough nukes to destroy the solar system?
and then start bombing a completely unrelated country...
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Engages the guilty country? What does that mean? There are only so many potential culprits here. Choose a scenario for each and tell me what "engages" means.Chizzang wrote:For startersCAA Flagship wrote: So Cappy, what should Obama do? What will satisfy you and your tribe? Let's hear it now so that you don't Monday Morning Quarterback Obama's actions with a spin. What should Obama do?
1) if Obama actually listens to or uses the UN that would be 100% the opposite of what Bush did
2) If he actually uses intelligence to determine the culprit that would be 100% the opposite as well
3) If he directly engages the guilty country that too would be 100% the opposite
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The last guy set the bar pretty low
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The pointCAA Flagship wrote:That didn't work out too well for Japan, and we know history repeats itself.Chizzang wrote:
A real president would immediately declare war on "something"
and then start bombing a completely unrelated country...
Go America..!!!
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Your assGrizalltheway wrote:The pointCAA Flagship wrote: That didn't work out too well for Japan, and we know history repeats itself.
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We do nothing for 2 reasons:andy7171 wrote:So Cappy what do we, the US, do? Someone shot down 300 people with a surface to air missile. Just sweep it under the rug and blame Bush and the House Republicans?
1. Its none of our business
2. This country doesnt have the balls to fight a real war with Russia and we sure as hell dont have a President that can lead fighting men, he cant even make a 12ft jumpshot with any regularity.
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Absolutely not. But it should be more than the sanctions issued yesterday before this. I hope. Don't you?Grizalltheway wrote:Obviously there should be some kind of response, but do you really want an all-out war between two countries with enough nukes to destroy the solar system?andy7171 wrote:So Cappy what do we, the US, do? Someone shot down 300 people with a surface to air missile. Just sweep it under the rug and blame Bush and the House Republicans?
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travelinman67 wrote:Yes, we do.Cap'n Cat wrote:
Fuck, you and Limbaugh have it figgered out already dontcha???
Obama ordered it shot down to distract everyone from all the other mayhem he created.
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CAA Flagship wrote:Engages the guilty country? What does that mean? There are only so many potential culprits here. Choose a scenario for each and tell me what "engages" means.Chizzang wrote:
For starters
1) if Obama actually listens to or uses the UN that would be 100% the opposite of what Bush did
2) If he actually uses intelligence to determine the culprit that would be 100% the opposite as well
3) If he directly engages the guilty country that too would be 100% the opposite
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I can't wait to see what he does...
The last guy set the bar pretty low
Engages (in recent history) means carpet bombing a completely unrelated nation...
So I pick Poland
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Thank you. Your suggestion on foreign policy is duly noted.Chizzang wrote:CAA Flagship wrote: Engages the guilty country? What does that mean? There are only so many potential culprits here. Choose a scenario for each and tell me what "engages" means.
Engages (in recent history) means carpet bombing a completely unrelated nation...
So I pick Poland
But I'll take any one of the "stans" as a second option
Still waiting on Cappy.
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TexastanChizzang wrote:CAA Flagship wrote: Engages the guilty country? What does that mean? There are only so many potential culprits here. Choose a scenario for each and tell me what "engages" means.
Engages (in recent history) means carpet bombing a completely unrelated nation...
So I pick Poland
But I'll take any one of the "stans" as a second option
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But KAL 007 was under a different time and circumstances.Ibanez wrote:The Russians/Soviets have a history of doing just that.BDKJMU wrote:
No sh*t sherlock.(right back at ya). I doubt whoever shot it down said hey, there's a civilian jumbo jet, let's shoot it down.
But what would Putin possibly have to gain by shooting down a civilian jumbo jet? Alleged Russian actions in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine by advisors and Spetsnaz, and the arming of the rebels, had fallen off of front page worldwide news news lately. This puts it back on front page news around the world and will make it that much harder for Russia to achieve it goals of annexing eastern Ukraine. With lots of western Europeans and Americans on that plane, there is likely to be much less appeasement among Western Europe towards Russia. And who knows, maybe Obama, after being asked by Ukraine for arms, will give them more than MREs.
And what would the rebels have to gain by intentionally shooting it down? Nothing but worldwide condemnation, making it that much harder to achieve their separatist goals in Donetsk..
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agreed. No good would come from downing a civilian plane.BDKJMU wrote:But KAL 007 was under a different time and circumstances.Ibanez wrote:
The Russians/Soviets have a history of doing just that.
But what would Putin possibly have to gain by shooting down a civilian jumbo jet? Alleged Russian actions in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine by advisors and Spetsnaz, and the arming of the rebels, had fallen off of front page worldwide news news lately. This puts it back on front page news around the world and will make it that much harder for Russia to achieve it goals of annexing eastern Ukraine. With lots of western Europeans and Americans on that plane, there is likely to be much less appeasement among Western Europe towards Russia. And who knows, maybe Obama, after being asked by Ukraine for arms, will give them more than MREs.
And what would the rebels have to gain by intentionally shooting it down? Nothing but worldwide condemnation, making it that much harder to achieve their separatist goals in Donetsk..
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More analagous to us shooting down Iranian Air 655
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Can't wait for spandos and cappy's assessment. Shame they are in the same category lately. I blame laziness.
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Why is this suddenly our responsibility? Funny listening to folks bitch about spending and being world police and then talk intervention here.
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I fail to see why we need to be involved. Sometimes, America needs to stay in its own yard.kalm wrote:Why is this suddenly our responsibility? Funny listening to folks bitch about spending and being world police and then talk intervention here.
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Who said it's our responsibility? 24 American and 80 children, think of the children, were just murdered. We do nothing? It's looking like wha-hoo separatists fucked up badly. They will go away like the Somali pirates the ruskies captured years ago. But to quote a Married with Children episode "If you give a monkey a gun and it shoots/kills someone, you don't blame the monkey!"kalm wrote:Why is this suddenly our responsibility? Funny listening to folks bitch about spending and being world police and then talk intervention here.
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Sepratist rebels bragged of shooting down a Ukrainian Antonov transport right about the same time the airliner was hit.
Thats what happened.
Thats what happened.
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We shouldn't get involved militarily, but we could start by giving/selling at a discount some of our older military hardware to Ukraine. They asked the US for arms earlier this year, and Obama gave them MRE's.Grizalltheway wrote:Obviously there should be some kind of response, but do you really want an all-out war between two countries with enough nukes to destroy the solar system?andy7171 wrote:So Cappy what do we, the US, do? Someone shot down 300 people with a surface to air missile. Just sweep it under the rug and blame Bush and the House Republicans?
REAL economic sanctions as opposed to ones the ones that Obama leveled a few months ago against a handful of individuals that were a joke and that the Russians laugh at:
Russian Deputy PM Laughs at Obama’s Sanctions
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1. Uh, no that would be the same as what Bush did.Chizzang wrote:For startersCAA Flagship wrote: So Cappy, what should Obama do? What will satisfy you and your tribe? Let's hear it now so that you don't Monday Morning Quarterback Obama's actions with a spin. What should Obama do?
1) if Obama actually listens to or uses the UN that would be 100% the opposite of what Bush did
2) If he actually uses intelligence to determine the culprit that would be 100% the opposite as well
3) If he directly engages the guilty country that too would be 100% the opposite
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The last guy set the bar pretty low
2. Uh no, that would be the same also.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:We do nothing for 2 reasons:andy7171 wrote:So Cappy what do we, the US, do? Someone shot down 300 people with a surface to air missile. Just sweep it under the rug and blame Bush and the House Republicans?
1. Its none of our business
2. This country doesnt have the balls to fight a real war with Russia and we sure as hell dont have a President that can lead fighting men, he cant even make a 12ft jumpshot with any regularity.
Seal the Mexican border.
Exactly. None of our citizens were killed...Ibanez wrote:I fail to see why we need to be involved. Sometimes, America needs to stay in its own yard.kalm wrote:Why is this suddenly our responsibility? Funny listening to folks bitch about spending and being world police and then talk intervention here.
Oh wait..
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