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Fruitland Park police shaken by KKK charges
July 12, 2014|By Stephen Hudak, Orlando Sentinel
Fruitland Park police Chief Terry Isaacs said his department has been shaken by troubling but unproven allegations that a deputy chief and a former police corporal were associated with the Ku Klux Klan.
The allegations, contained in a confidential FBI report provided to Isaacs by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, led to the sudden resignation of Deputy Chief David Borst and Isaacs' decision Friday to dismiss Officer George Hunnewell.
Isaacs would not confirm that the report linked the two officers to the KKK, instead describing the group as a "subversive organization." He said he couldn't be more exact in his description because he thought he was not authorized to release details of the report. Issacs said the document was given to him as chief to consider how the allegations might affect the officers' credibility and the perception of the department in the community.
Chief Deputy State Attorney Ric Ridgway, from whom Isaacs sought advice, identified the KKK as the hate group.
"It's not a crime to be a member of the KKK, even if you are the deputy chief. It's not a crime to be stupid," Ridgway said, in a previous interview. "It's not a crime to hate people. It may be despicable, it may be immoral, but it's not a crime."
Borst, 49, of Wildwood, who also was Fruitland Park's fire chief, denied involvement in the group but resigned both posts Friday after requesting time to speak with his family, Isaacs said.
"It's a tough situation. He was my assistant," said Isaacs, adding he had not witnessed behavior by Borst that would substantiate the charge. "I'm not saying I believe him. I'm not saying I don't believe him. But I've read the report, and it's convincing."
Isaacs said Hunnewell, who was demoted from corporal in 2013, received five "letters of counseling" in the past year, an indication he was not performing to department standards.
Isaacs said he considered Hunnewell's job performance before dismissing him.
"I just had no faith in him," he said.
Neither Borst nor Hunnewell could be reached for comment.
Isaacs, who made counselors available for his officers, said Fruitland Park has 13 full-time and five part-time cops, and many were trained by Borst.
"They're a good group of people," he said of his officers, describing them as upset by the allegations. "The last thing I was expecting to hear in the year 2014 was for a professional law-enforcement officer to be a member of a subversive organization."
In 2009, Fruitland Park police Officer James Elkins resigned after pictures surfaced of him in uniform with a pointy Klan hood and robe.
July 12, 2014|By Stephen Hudak, Orlando Sentinel
Fruitland Park police Chief Terry Isaacs said his department has been shaken by troubling but unproven allegations that a deputy chief and a former police corporal were associated with the Ku Klux Klan.
The allegations, contained in a confidential FBI report provided to Isaacs by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, led to the sudden resignation of Deputy Chief David Borst and Isaacs' decision Friday to dismiss Officer George Hunnewell.
Isaacs would not confirm that the report linked the two officers to the KKK, instead describing the group as a "subversive organization." He said he couldn't be more exact in his description because he thought he was not authorized to release details of the report. Issacs said the document was given to him as chief to consider how the allegations might affect the officers' credibility and the perception of the department in the community.
Chief Deputy State Attorney Ric Ridgway, from whom Isaacs sought advice, identified the KKK as the hate group.
"It's not a crime to be a member of the KKK, even if you are the deputy chief. It's not a crime to be stupid," Ridgway said, in a previous interview. "It's not a crime to hate people. It may be despicable, it may be immoral, but it's not a crime."
Borst, 49, of Wildwood, who also was Fruitland Park's fire chief, denied involvement in the group but resigned both posts Friday after requesting time to speak with his family, Isaacs said.
"It's a tough situation. He was my assistant," said Isaacs, adding he had not witnessed behavior by Borst that would substantiate the charge. "I'm not saying I believe him. I'm not saying I don't believe him. But I've read the report, and it's convincing."
Isaacs said Hunnewell, who was demoted from corporal in 2013, received five "letters of counseling" in the past year, an indication he was not performing to department standards.
Isaacs said he considered Hunnewell's job performance before dismissing him.
"I just had no faith in him," he said.
Neither Borst nor Hunnewell could be reached for comment.
Isaacs, who made counselors available for his officers, said Fruitland Park has 13 full-time and five part-time cops, and many were trained by Borst.
"They're a good group of people," he said of his officers, describing them as upset by the allegations. "The last thing I was expecting to hear in the year 2014 was for a professional law-enforcement officer to be a member of a subversive organization."
In 2009, Fruitland Park police Officer James Elkins resigned after pictures surfaced of him in uniform with a pointy Klan hood and robe.
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Florida...smh.
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Now you see why....what?
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Why Zimmerman was acquitted? I'm guessing. I'm sure he's assuming once racist police chief means the rest are equally racist.AZGrizFan wrote:Now you see why....what?
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Ibanez wrote:Why Zimmerman was acquitted? I'm guessing. I'm sure he's assuming once racist police chief means the rest are equally racist.AZGrizFan wrote:Now you see why....what?
This did not start with Zimmerman. Look up cases that involved White men shooting black men. Like I said before, Don't take my word for it, look it up.
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Florida is a Blue state kleany...mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Why Zimmerman was acquitted? I'm guessing. I'm sure he's assuming once racist police chief means the rest are equally racist.
This did not start with Zimmerman. Look up cases that involved White men shooting black men. Like I said before, Don't take my word for it, look it up.
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He sees why he is an azzhat.AZGrizFan wrote:Now you see why....what?
klean wants everyone to look up cases of Black people being shot by White people, whiule at the exact same time, he isn't asking anyone to look up cases of White people being shot by Black people.
It is so blatantly obvious to everyone but klean and dal...they are simply two racist punks coming at things from the other side. kkklean.
What we need is for someone to show klean's posts to the military police so that they can do the right thing and take away his military pension for dereliction of duty. After all, if you have ties to a racist group (odd that the article said it was unproven), or are a racist like klean, then you need to get fired and cannot be expected to hold a job.
klean was probably cracking White people's heads while letting his brother's go with a wink and a Black Panther fist raised in the air.
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Klean, what do you say about this?
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... 19674/1177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A young man (black) was shot in the head. Immediately, the community, witnesses and the family claimed he was murdered by a cop. A few days later, the investigation proves that not only did the officer not fire his weapon (all bullets accounted for) but the officer had no residue on him that was consistent with a shot being fired. Furthermore, it came out that the bullet in the boys head couldn't not have come from a police issue weapon, instead it came from a revolver...like the one that was found near his body...and was reported missing by it's owner (the stepfather).
A kid dies and suddenly people want to blame the police.
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Curnell, 19, died June 20 of a gunshot wound to his head after he encountered Charleston Police Officer Jamal Medlin outside the Bridgeview Village apartments on North Romney Street.
The State Law Enforcement Division took over the investigation because of the circumstances of Curnell's death, the police said without further explaining the move.
In a letter to SLED on Monday, Wilson said evidence discounted two witness statements saying that Medlin had shot Curnell "from behind and from some distance." Instead, only Curnell's DNA was found on a revolver that fired the fatal shot, and gunshot residue was found only on Curnell, Wilson said.
Family members have said that Curnell's stepfather discovered that night that the revolver that he kept in his Wilson Avenue house was missing.
A young man (black) was shot in the head. Immediately, the community, witnesses and the family claimed he was murdered by a cop. A few days later, the investigation proves that not only did the officer not fire his weapon (all bullets accounted for) but the officer had no residue on him that was consistent with a shot being fired. Furthermore, it came out that the bullet in the boys head couldn't not have come from a police issue weapon, instead it came from a revolver...like the one that was found near his body...and was reported missing by it's owner (the stepfather).
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Now I see why...

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Living in Bayside Manor should disqualify anyone from being a witness for anything.Ibanez wrote:Klean, what do you say about this?
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... 19674/1177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Curnell, 19, died June 20 of a gunshot wound to his head after he encountered Charleston Police Officer Jamal Medlin outside the Bridgeview Village apartments on North Romney Street.
The State Law Enforcement Division took over the investigation because of the circumstances of Curnell's death, the police said without further explaining the move.
In a letter to SLED on Monday, Wilson said evidence discounted two witness statements saying that Medlin had shot Curnell "from behind and from some distance." Instead, only Curnell's DNA was found on a revolver that fired the fatal shot, and gunshot residue was found only on Curnell, Wilson said.
Family members have said that Curnell's stepfather discovered that night that the revolver that he kept in his Wilson Avenue house was missing.
A young man (black) was shot in the head. Immediately, the community, witnesses and the family claimed he was murdered by a cop. A few days later, the investigation proves that not only did the officer not fire his weapon (all bullets accounted for) but the officer had no residue on him that was consistent with a shot being fired. Furthermore, it came out that the bullet in the boys head couldn't not have come from a police issue weapon, instead it came from a revolver...like the one that was found near his body...and was reported missing by it's owner (the stepfather).
A kid dies and suddenly people want to blame the police.
It is an absolue sh!thole and they hate the police in there (yet call them all the fvcking time)
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The witnesses were discredited aka have false statements.CID1990 wrote:Living in Bayside Manor should disqualify anyone from being a witness for anything.Ibanez wrote:Klean, what do you say about this?
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... 19674/1177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A young man (black) was shot in the head. Immediately, the community, witnesses and the family claimed he was murdered by a cop. A few days later, the investigation proves that not only did the officer not fire his weapon (all bullets accounted for) but the officer had no residue on him that was consistent with a shot being fired. Furthermore, it came out that the bullet in the boys head couldn't not have come from a police issue weapon, instead it came from a revolver...like the one that was found near his body...and was reported missing by it's owner (the stepfather).
A kid dies and suddenly people want to blame the police.
It is an absolue sh!thole and they hate the police in there (yet call them all the fvcking time)
God I used to wish that place would burn to the ground
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You mean to tell me people can't belong to an organization of their choosing on their own time and work for the Police Department?
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Well, my guess is that Whites are usually justified in shooting Blacks because they're usually being attacked by them. Like when that Black Martin guy was on top of the White/Hispanic Zimmerman guy beating the crap out of him so the Zimmerman guy had to shoot him to get him off him.This did not start with Zimmerman. Look up cases that involved White men shooting black men. Like I said before, Don't take my word for it, look it up.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Well, my guess is that Whites are usually justified in shooting Blacks because they're usually being attacked by them. Like when that Black Martin guy was on top of the White/Hispanic Zimmerman guy beating the crap out of him so the Zimmerman guy had to shoot him to get him off him.This did not start with Zimmerman. Look up cases that involved White men shooting black men. Like I said before, Don't take my word for it, look it up.
Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a coward.
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We've been through this, and as a man who claims to be educated you shouldn't fall prey to racial conspiracies. As someone in law enforcement, you should understand forensic evidence.mrklean wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, my guess is that Whites are usually justified in shooting Blacks because they're usually being attacked by them. Like when that Black Martin guy was on top of the White/Hispanic Zimmerman guy beating the crap out of him so the Zimmerman guy had to shoot him to get him off him.
Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a coward.
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Even if Jesus Christ had personally videotaped the incident, you would dispute the tape and allege Jesus was a lying zionist Jew oppressor.mrklean wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, my guess is that Whites are usually justified in shooting Blacks because they're usually being attacked by them. Like when that Black Martin guy was on top of the White/Hispanic Zimmerman guy beating the crap out of him so the Zimmerman guy had to shoot him to get him off him.
Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a coward.
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Found the video


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travelinman67 wrote:Even if Jesus Christ had personally videotaped the incident, you would dispute the tape and allege Jesus was a lying zionist Jew oppressor.mrklean wrote:
Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a coward.
You have no integrity, Klean.
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kkklean is the real coward here.mrklean wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, my guess is that Whites are usually justified in shooting Blacks because they're usually being attacked by them. Like when that Black Martin guy was on top of the White/Hispanic Zimmerman guy beating the crap out of him so the Zimmerman guy had to shoot him to get him off him.
Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a coward.
Too scared to admit the truth...a typical young Black racist thug wanted to punk a Hispanic man. Trayvon even called Zimmerman a, "cracker" before attacking Zimmerman.
Apparently, kkklean is the only person who actually professes that young Black men aren't out there violently attacking grown men.
kkklean is a weak minded, delusional, racist retard.
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That looks like a black on black crime. We're looking for black on brown crime.Bronco wrote:Found the video
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Here's the deal: In our system, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution needed to be able to prove that it was NOT self defense. That's the way it works.Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a **** liar and a coward.
In my opinion, the reason why the local police did not arrest/charge Zimmerman initially is because they realized that there was not sufficient evidence to do so. But then it became a national political deal and he had to be arrested, charged, and tried. And then he was acquitted in spite of intense political pressure to convict him; thereby vindicating the initial decision by the local police department.
If you know me at all you know that I am not a police worshipper. But I think it's pretty clear to any reasonable person that that was the case here.
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Zimdaman was a hero.JohnStOnge wrote:Here's the deal: In our system, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution needed to be able to prove that it was NOT self defense. That's the way it works.Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a **** liar and a coward.
In my opinion, the reason why the local police did not arrest/charge Zimmerman initially is because they realized that there was not sufficient evidence to do so. But then it became a national political deal and he had to be arrested, charged, and tried. And then he was acquitted in spite of intense political pressure to convict him; thereby vindicating the initial decision by the local police department.
If you know me at all you know that I am not a police worshipper. But I think it's pretty clear to any reasonable person that that was the case here.
Zim was attacked by a punk and defended himself well. Trayvon won't be jumping any more, "crackers" (or anyone else he thinks looks different) or stealing anyone's stuff.
Trayvon was a menace to society, a loser thief who got suspended from school, a racist pig who didn't respect anyone who tried to defend what was theirs, and a friend of a racist Jabina the Hut.
The world is better off without Trayvon...Zim saved Trayvon's future victims a lot of trouble.
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Prosecutor tanked the case.JohnStOnge wrote:Here's the deal: In our system, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution needed to be able to prove that it was NOT self defense. That's the way it works.Show me the Video? Zimmerman is a **** liar and a coward.
In my opinion, the reason why the local police did not arrest/charge Zimmerman initially is because they realized that there was not sufficient evidence to do so. But then it became a national political deal and he had to be arrested, charged, and tried. And then he was acquitted in spite of intense political pressure to convict him; thereby vindicating the initial decision by the local police department.
If you know me at all you know that I am not a police worshipper. But I think it's pretty clear to any reasonable person that that was the case here.
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Cluck U wrote:Zimdaman was a hero.JohnStOnge wrote:
Here's the deal: In our system, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution needed to be able to prove that it was NOT self defense. That's the way it works.
In my opinion, the reason why the local police did not arrest/charge Zimmerman initially is because they realized that there was not sufficient evidence to do so. But then it became a national political deal and he had to be arrested, charged, and tried. And then he was acquitted in spite of intense political pressure to convict him; thereby vindicating the initial decision by the local police department.
If you know me at all you know that I am not a police worshipper. But I think it's pretty clear to any reasonable person that that was the case here.![]()
Zim was attacked by a punk and defended himself well. Trayvon won't be jumping any more, "crackers" (or anyone else he thinks looks different) or stealing anyone's stuff.![]()
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Trayvon was a menace to society, a loser thief who got suspended from school, a racist pig who didn't respect anyone who tried to defend what was theirs, and a friend of a racist Jabina the Hut.
The world is better off without Trayvon...Zim saved Trayvon's future victims a lot of trouble.
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That's all very entertaining, but what do you think happened?Zimdaman was a hero.![]()
Zim was attacked by a punk and defended himself well. Trayvon won't be jumping any more, "crackers" (or anyone else he thinks looks different) or stealing anyone's stuff.![]()
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Trayvon was a menace to society, a loser thief who got suspended from school, a racist pig who didn't respect anyone who tried to defend what was theirs, and a friend of a racist Jabina the Hut.
The world is better off without Trayvon...Zim saved Trayvon's future victims a lot of trouble.
Do you doubt that Martin physically attacked Zimmerman? All other things aside. We can talk about how Zimmerman shouldn't have been following him around and such. But do you see/hear anything that would suggest to you that the prosecution could show beyond a reasonable doubt that Martin did not physically attack Zimmerman?
I mean, there was a medical report showing that George Zimmerman had a broken nose, two black eyes, and lacerations to the back of his head. You're a prosecutor. The defense is saying "he was beating the crap out of my client" and the defense attorney can point to that medical report. Think about it. Seems like the medical report was pretty darned consistent with "he was beating the crap out of my client."
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