kalm wrote:So it wasn't the founding fathers. Perhaps it was people of entrenched wealth?Chizzang wrote:
Agreed,
The founders were looking to empower the individual
(Don't tell the conks this as they are all for competition)
I'm sure there are many people who are members of corporations who have done those things. Most have not just as most people in the general population have not. But corporations are composed of people. This thing where people act like you're not making people do things when you make corporations do things is pretty much self-evidently nonsense. When you make a corporation composed of people who hold certain convictions violate those convictions you are making those people violate their convictions. There is no real distinction.VictorG wrote:I will agree that a corporation should have the same rights as a person the day a corporation straps on boots, grabs a field pack and rifle, makes it through basic training and ultimately jumps out of a plane into some jungle or desert somewhere and runs the same risks as everyone else in getting shot at or killed for some unknown or unclear reason.
JohnStOnge wrote:I'm sure there are many people who are members of corporations who have done those things. Most have not just as most people in the general population have not. But corporations are composed of people. This thing where people act like you're not making people do things when you make corporations do things is pretty much self-evidently nonsense. When you make a corporation composed of people who hold certain convictions violate those convictions you are making those people violate their convictions. There is no real distinction.VictorG wrote:I will agree that a corporation should have the same rights as a person the day a corporation straps on boots, grabs a field pack and rifle, makes it through basic training and ultimately jumps out of a plane into some jungle or desert somewhere and runs the same risks as everyone else in getting shot at or killed for some unknown or unclear reason.
How do you know that everyone in the corporation holds the same convictions?JohnStOnge wrote:I'm sure there are many people who are members of corporations who have done those things. Most have not just as most people in the general population have not. But corporations are composed of people. This thing where people act like you're not making people do things when you make corporations do things is pretty much self-evidently nonsense. When you make a corporation composed of people who hold certain convictions violate those convictions you are making those people violate their convictions. There is no real distinction.VictorG wrote:I will agree that a corporation should have the same rights as a person the day a corporation straps on boots, grabs a field pack and rifle, makes it through basic training and ultimately jumps out of a plane into some jungle or desert somewhere and runs the same risks as everyone else in getting shot at or killed for some unknown or unclear reason.
