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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military said it had grounded the entire fleet of 97 Lockheed Martin Corp F-35 fighter jets until completion of additional inspections of the warplane's single engine built by Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp.

The Pentagon's F-35 program office, Air Force and Navy issued directives on Thursday ordering the suspension of all F-35 flights after a June 23 fire on an Air Force F-35A jet at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida.

The Pentagon said U.S. and industry officials had not pinpointed the cause of the fire, which occurred as a pilot was preparing for takeoff. The pilot was not injured.

The incident is the latest to hit the Pentagon's costliest weapons program, the $398.6 billion F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. It followed an in-flight oil leak that triggered mandatory fleetwide inspections of the jets last month.

"Additional inspections of F-35 engines have been ordered, and return to flight will be determined based on inspection results and analysis of engineering data," the Defense Department said in a brief statement issued late on Thursday.

Pratt & Whitney said it was working closely with Air Force officials who are investigating the fire and are inspecting all engines in the fleet. Spokesman Jay DeFrank said it would be inappropriate to comment further since the incident was the subject of an investigation.

View gallery An F-35A Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter takes off on a training sortie at Eglin Air Force Base, F …The Pentagon's F-35 program office has made determining the cause of the fire its highest priority and it is assessing the impact on flight tests, training and operations of the radar-evading warplane.

A person familiar with the situation said it was premature to rule in or out any quality problem or manufacturing defect.

Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera he wanted to discuss the F-35 problem when he visits the United States next week to tour U.S. bases and meet with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel.

"On my coming trip to the U.S. I plan to be reviewing troops and will have a chance to discuss the F-35 development on the ground," Onodera told a regular news conference. "I’d like to confirm the details of this accident."

Japan has ordered 42 of the single-engine stealth jets that will be assembled locally by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, maker of the World War II-era Zero fighter. Tokyo may order more F-35s when it decides the future of 100 of its older F-15s.

Australia and South Korea said there had been no change to their plans to buy the fighter jets. Australia plans to buy 58 of the fighters and South Korea intends to buy 40.

"To date the JSF aircraft has accrued 15,000 flight hours While the F135 engine has successfully completed nearly 32,000 hours of testing," a spokesman for Australia's Defense Minister David Johnston said.

"Single engine fighters are operated by many air forces and Defense remains confident the F-35 JSF will be reliable and safe."

Reuters reported on Wednesday that U.S. and British authorities were preparing directives ordering a mandatory engine inspection estimated to take about 90 minutes.

British officials remained part of the discussions with U.S. officials and concurred with the U.S. recommendation to ground the jets, pending further inspection results, the F-35 program office said.

The Pentagon said preparations were continuing for F-35 jets to participate in two UK air shows later this month, but a final decision would be made early next week. The fire has already derailed plans for an F-35 jet to fly by a naming ceremony for Britain's new aircraft carrier on Friday.

The Royal International Air Tattoo (RITA) kicks off July 11 followed by the Farnborough International Air Show starting on July 14.

(Reporting by Andrea Shalal; Additional reporting by Nobuhiro Kubo and Tim Kelly in Tokyo, Joyce Lee in Seoul and Lincoln Feast in Sydney; Editing by Lisa Shumaker, Ken Wills and Edwina Gibbs)
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400 Billion for a Fighter. This is what happens when you have Nerds trying to run the DOD. You can't have a fighter that does it all. It will never work.
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mrklean wrote:400 Billion for a Fighter. This is what happens when you have Nerds trying to run the DOD. You can't have a fighter that does it all. It will never work.
The F-35 will be childs play for the drones that are coming. Colossal waste of money. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
mrklean wrote:400 Billion for a Fighter. This is what happens when you have Nerds trying to run the DOD. You can't have a fighter that does it all. It will never work.
The F-35 will be childs play for the drones that are coming. Colossal waste of money. :coffee:
Let the repukes tell it, we need it to keep up with the Russians and China :coffee:
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mrklean wrote:400 Billion for a Fighter. This is what happens when you have Nerds trying to run the DOD. You can't have a fighter that does it all. It will never work.
Go back and read again, Harvey

it isnt 400 billion for one fighter
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houndawg wrote:
mrklean wrote:400 Billion for a Fighter. This is what happens when you have Nerds trying to run the DOD. You can't have a fighter that does it all. It will never work.
The F-35 will be childs play for the drones that are coming. Colossal waste of money. :coffee:
you mean the drones without enough situational awareness to land properly or avoid running into other aircraft?

those drones?
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I hope the F-35 program is continued another 10 years without full-scale production just to watch Klean vent about it. It's entertaining. :lol:

The program really is a quagmire though. Too much invested to quit.

This is what happens when you don't have a clear end state in your contract from the beginning.

The one good thing that will come of this is that it will be a case study in how never to develop a major system again.
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kleanex I KNOW you have a hardon for the F-35 program, but seriously, dude: EVERY platform the military has EVER used has had issues like this, and the gov'ts response is ALWAYS over the top and heavy-handed, in the name of safety. Your over reaction, like a petulent child, is comical though.
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93henfan wrote:I hope the F-35 program is continued another 10 years without full-scale production just to watch Klean vent about it. It's entertaining. :lol:

The program really is a quagmire though. Too much invested to quit.

This is what happens when you don't have a clear end state in your contract from the beginning.

The one good thing that will come of this is that it will be a case study in how never to develop a major system again.
You said it all brother. Working with the PO for the F-35 was one of the most stressful situations i've been in. Cluster fuck beyond your wildest dreams.
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AZGrizFan wrote:kleanex I KNOW you have a hardon for the F-35 program, but seriously, dude: EVERY platform the military has EVER used has had issues like this, and the gov'ts response is ALWAYS over the top and heavy-handed, in the name of safety. Your over reaction, like a petulent child, is comical though.
The C-17 is a great example.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:kleanex I KNOW you have a hardon for the F-35 program, but seriously, dude: EVERY platform the military has EVER used has had issues like this, and the gov'ts response is ALWAYS over the top and heavy-handed, in the name of safety. Your over reaction, like a petulent child, is comical though.
The C-17 is a great example.
As were the V-22, the CH-53, and the AV-8. Lot of dead Marines in those three platforms.
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The F-35 is awesome to fly in Ace Combat 5
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
The F-35 will be childs play for the drones that are coming. Colossal waste of money. :coffee:
you mean the drones without enough situational awareness to land properly or avoid running into other aircraft?

those drones?
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Yeah, you're right, CUD, drone technology has gone as far as it can.



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the F-35 is a cluster fvck and exhibit A for why we never should have dumped the F-22
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93henfan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: The C-17 is a great example.
As were the V-22, the CH-53, and the AV-8. Lot of dead Marines in those three platforms.
Holy crap, how many times was the V-22 on the chopping block? And now it's one of the mainstays....
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
you mean the drones without enough situational awareness to land properly or avoid running into other aircraft?

those drones?
:roll:

Yeah, you're right, CUD, drone technology has gone as far as it can.



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your prediction is not even close

no different from the last 50 years of loudmouths predicting the end of the need for a human in the cockpit
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
you mean the drones without enough situational awareness to land properly or avoid running into other aircraft?

those drones?
:roll:

Yeah, you're right, CUD, drone technology has gone as far as it can.



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