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1) Serve Alcohol to Minors in a bar..? Most people say yes
2) Should it be a crime to hand a 5 year old a loaded gun and then leave the house

The 2 year old little girl was shot to death
and NOBODY went to jail because NO CRIME was committed

Hand a bottle of whiskey to a 15 year old at a party = That is a crime
Hand a loaded weapon to a 5 year old who then murders his sister = No Crime was committed


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I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story
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CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story
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Chizzang wrote:1) Serve Alcohol to Minors in a bar..? Most people say yes
2) Should it be a crime to hand a 5 year old a loaded gun and then leave the house

The 2 year old little girl was shot to death
and NOBODY went to jail because NO CRIME was committed

Hand a bottle of whiskey to a 15 year old at a party = That is a crime
Hand a loaded weapon to a 5 year old who then murders his sister = No Crime was committed


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Can't violate 2nd Amendment Rights!

I saw a thread on Facebook moaning about some girl from Texas posing with wildlife she shot & killed - hippos, rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. Well wait, 2nd Amendment covers that too right. You can't pick & choose who or what it's OK to shoot & what isn't.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story
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bluehenbillk wrote:Can't violate 2nd Amendment Rights!

I saw a thread on Facebook moaning about some girl from Texas posing with wildlife she shot & killed - hippos, rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. Well wait, 2nd Amendment covers that too right. You can't pick & choose who or what it's OK to shoot & what isn't.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-f ... e-facebook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The rhino wasn't killed. Neither was the hippo or the elephant. They were darted and tested/samples taken, and a gruesome injury on the rhino was addressed--caused by a LION, ironically. The lion was a male that was killing cubs in the area to take over a pride of female lions and get them to go into heat again.

But don't let facts get in the way of a terrific rant. :rofl:
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You troll vicariously through others to hide your gross inadequacies.

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bluehenbillk wrote:Can't violate 2nd Amendment Rights!

I saw a thread on Facebook moaning about some girl from Texas posing with wildlife she shot & killed - hippos, rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. Well wait, 2nd Amendment covers that too right. You can't pick & choose who or what it's OK to shoot & what isn't.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-f ... e-facebook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
they have free range rhinos and hippos in Texas?


BTW if she's so hardcore I'd like to see her hunt a cape buffalo on foot because I KNOW she's shooting those animals from atop a protected vehicle

cape buffalo is the most dangerous of the Big 5 and will kill your ass stone cold dead

I'd like to see that video
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AZGrizFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:Can't violate 2nd Amendment Rights!

I saw a thread on Facebook moaning about some girl from Texas posing with wildlife she shot & killed - hippos, rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. Well wait, 2nd Amendment covers that too right. You can't pick & choose who or what it's OK to shoot & what isn't.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-f ... e-facebook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The rhino wasn't killed. Neither was the hippo or the elephant. They were darted and tested/samples taken, and a gruesome injury on the rhino was addressed--caused by a LION, ironically. The lion was a male that was killing cubs in the area to take over a pride of female lions and get them to go into heat again.

But don't let facts get in the way of a terrific rant. :rofl:
One rhino wasn't killed per the article. But you missed:

-'The first animal I ever shot was a White Rhino with a .416 Remington!!' the teen writes on her Facebook page.

"Jones's photos show her posing with bagged zebras, hugging a dead leopard, and smiling beside elephants she's killed."

"However, Jones has in her quest to bag the Big 5 African game animals (lion, elephant, Cape buffalo, leopard, and White/Black rhinoceros) shot a white rhino, which number around 20,000."

"Because of her enthusiasm for killing rare game and what they say is her dubious standing as a conservationist, some critics say Jones should be banned from hunting..."

Any other facts YOU want to gloss over....
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CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound... :mrgreen:
It is NOT SEEN as criminal negligence - its seen as a divine right of passage

in a country where:
10 times out of 10 events - you will be charged for serving a minor
Zero times out of 10 events - you will be charges for Criminal Negligence for handing a child a loaded weapon

and as far as Moonbatty, I'm just trying to understand our footing here
Where do we stand exactly

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound... :mrgreen:
It is NOT SEEN as criminal negligence - its seen as a divine right of passage

in a country where:
10 times out of 10 events - you will be charged for serving a minor
Zero times out of 10 events - you will be charges for Criminal Negligence for handing a child a loaded weapon

and as far as Moonbatty, I'm just trying to understand our footing here
Where do we stand exactly

Perhaps I am insane... :coffee:
I would dispute that just based on many years of having worked in law enforcement, but my belief is anecdotal
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bluehenbillk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The rhino wasn't killed. Neither was the hippo or the elephant. They were darted and tested/samples taken, and a gruesome injury on the rhino was addressed--caused by a LION, ironically. The lion was a male that was killing cubs in the area to take over a pride of female lions and get them to go into heat again.

But don't let facts get in the way of a terrific rant. :rofl:
One rhino wasn't killed per the article. But you missed:

-'The first animal I ever shot was a White Rhino with a .416 Remington!!' the teen writes on her Facebook page.

"Jones's photos show her posing with bagged zebras, hugging a dead leopard, and smiling beside elephants she's killed."

"However, Jones has in her quest to bag the Big 5 African game animals (lion, elephant, Cape buffalo, leopard, and White/Black rhinoceros) shot a white rhino, which number around 20,000."

"Because of her enthusiasm for killing rare game and what they say is her dubious standing as a conservationist, some critics say Jones should be banned from hunting..."

Any other facts YOU want to gloss over....
What do 2nd ammendment rights in the US, or the US Constitution, have to do with a 19 year old adult shooting animals in Africa?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound... :mrgreen:
It is NOT SEEN as criminal negligence - its seen as a divine right of passage

in a country where:
10 times out of 10 events - you will be charged for serving a minor
Zero times out of 10 events - you will be charges for Criminal Negligence for handing a child a loaded weapon

and as far as Moonbatty, I'm just trying to understand our footing here
Where do we stand exactly

Perhaps I am insane... :coffee:
And I would dispute that. You're basically saying that a minor in the US has never successfully been served alcohol in a bar or restaurant without the establishment being prosecuted. Or does 10 out of 10 work out to something different in your math?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:Can't violate 2nd Amendment Rights!

I saw a thread on Facebook moaning about some girl from Texas posing with wildlife she shot & killed - hippos, rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. Well wait, 2nd Amendment covers that too right. You can't pick & choose who or what it's OK to shoot & what isn't.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-f ... e-facebook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The rhino wasn't killed. Neither was the hippo or the elephant. They were darted and tested/samples taken, and a gruesome injury on the rhino was addressed--caused by a LION, ironically. The lion was a male that was killing cubs in the area to take over a pride of female lions and get them to go into heat again.

But don't let facts get in the way of a terrific rant. :rofl:

Do you even read your Fox Links? The Rhino yes... From the link: Nineteen-year-old Kendall Jones claims photos of dead hippos, elephants, lions and other beasts on Facebook are a testament to her hunting skills and dedication to game preservation.

As far as the Lion - that is what they do. That is what they have ALWAYS done - when a new male takes over a pride, he kills all the cubs so he can pass on HIS genetic material.

But basic science/biology has never been a strong point for the right
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GannonFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:
One rhino wasn't killed per the article. But you missed:

-'The first animal I ever shot was a White Rhino with a .416 Remington!!' the teen writes on her Facebook page.

"Jones's photos show her posing with bagged zebras, hugging a dead leopard, and smiling beside elephants she's killed."

"However, Jones has in her quest to bag the Big 5 African game animals (lion, elephant, Cape buffalo, leopard, and White/Black rhinoceros) shot a white rhino, which number around 20,000."

"Because of her enthusiasm for killing rare game and what they say is her dubious standing as a conservationist, some critics say Jones should be banned from hunting..."

Any other facts YOU want to gloss over....
What do 2nd ammendment rights in the US, or the US Constitution, have to do with a 19 year old adult shooting animals in Africa?
That's what I meant with my reference to free range rhinos in Texas but I kmight have been too obscure
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CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
What do 2nd ammendment rights in the US, or the US Constitution, have to do with a 19 year old adult shooting animals in Africa?
That's what I meant with my reference to free range rhinos in Texas but I kmight have been too obscure

I caught in :nod:
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CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
What do 2nd ammendment rights in the US, or the US Constitution, have to do with a 19 year old adult shooting animals in Africa?
That's what I meant with my reference to free range rhinos in Texas but I kmight have been too obscure
I was distracted by your expose on cape buffalo. Fascinating stuff, really. :lol:
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GannonFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That's what I meant with my reference to free range rhinos in Texas but I kmight have been too obscure
I was distracted by your expose on cape buffalo. Fascinating stuff, really. :lol:
Seriously I'd like to see how good of a shot she is with actual death on the line

Im guessing she would crap her panties and drop the gun and then die screaming
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No to both

Kids should be able to drink if they are with their parents same with guns. My son started shooting when he was 5 and he hasnt had a problem but of course he was taught safety first and only kill people that are not white, gay or love soccer.

We talk about this over beers quite often.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
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You troll vicariously through others to hide your gross inadequacies.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:No to both

Kids should be able to drink if they are with their parents same with guns. My son started shooting when he was 5 and he hasnt had a problem but of course he was taught safety first and only kill people that are not white, gay or love soccer.

We talk about this over beers quite often.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I sort of already answered this in succinct, satisfactory and a likely thread ending manner in the other thread.

You just didn't read it.

Or maybe I didn't- yes it should be illegal to hand a 5 year old a gun under any circumstances

And you're going a little moonbatty on us ... sort of like "war on wimmen" or "Obama is a muslin" moonbatty - because handing a gun to a 5 year old IS a crime. Most (if not all states) have provisions for a criminal negligence charge (which is what this is). Your question would be better phrased as "should a DA who doesnt charge granny for criminal negligence be re-elected?"

Although I do like how we have the Christian version of Insh'allah in this story

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound... :mrgreen:
It is NOT SEEN as criminal negligence - its seen as a divine right of passage

in a country where:
10 times out of 10 events - you will be charged for serving a minor
Zero times out of 10 events - you will be charges for Criminal Negligence for handing a child a loaded weapon

and as far as Moonbatty, I'm just trying to understand our footing here
Where do we stand exactly

Perhaps I am insane... :coffee:
I wasn't charged for serving to 40+ minors.
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