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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
If you can't afford a child and decide to have one anyway, then you should be sterilized.
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I disapprove of any medication being available over the counter….

…because then my pre-tax HSA won’t pick up the costs. :thumbdown:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
If you can't afford a child and decide to have one anyway, then you should be sterilized.
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hobby Lobby doesn't have a problem with contraception. They already offer 16 different types under their current health care plan. :coffee:
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hobby Lobby doesn't have a problem with contraception. They already offer 16 different types under their current health care plan. :coffee:
And Hobby Lobby pays their 15,000+ full time employees a minimum of $14/hr so that low skill people can afford to live. :clap:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
If you can't afford a child and decide to have one anyway, then you should be sterilized.
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The key there, though, is that though it certainly results in less abortions, you end up reaching a plateau. Some people, despite years of educational reinforcement and despite having relatively affordable and accessible access to contraception, still don't use it, or use it correctly. I'm not saying this as it relates to any particular policy or viewpoint, but some people, either lazy, dumb, or forgetful, or a combination of all three, will still not use contraception and be "shocked" when a pregnancy occurs.
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GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The key there, though, is that though it certainly results in less abortions, you end up reaching a plateau. Some people, despite years of educational reinforcement and despite having relatively affordable and accessible access to contraception, still don't use it, or use it correctly. I'm not saying this as it relates to any particular policy or viewpoint, but some people, either lazy, dumb, or forgetful, or a combination of all three, will still not use contraception and be "shocked" when a pregnancy occurs.
Good post. But you should have added this - Those people will then expect the government to take care of them and their new offspring.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: Apparently you. Abortion drugs paid for by your employer... where is the accountability for the woman in question? :suspicious:
No such thing as "abortion pills." The "morning after pill" will not work if the woman is already pregnant when she takes it.

And, for your second point. There is still accountability to take care of it yourself. You can have dental coverage... but, you are still accountable to actually get dental care so your teeth don't rot out. How is dental coverage a lack of personal accountability? :? :roll:
You've been relying on Planned Parenthood for your info. From the drug makers website:
Levonorgestrel tablets, 0.75mg contain the same medication found in many popular oral contraceptives. By using an elevated dose, Levonorgestrel tablets, 0.75mg function in the same manner as
routine oral contraceptives to prevent pregnancy by causing a delay in ovulation, or by interfering with fertilization or the implantation of a fertilized egg.
http://www.levo4u.com/pdf/pharmacist_info.pdf

Not really sure where you're going on the second part about dental coverage. :suspicious: If Libs had their way, a woman can have unprotected sex, get pregnant and then have her employer pay for an abortion. She will suffer the mental anguish if she ends up feeling guilty after the fact, but where exactly is the accountability for getting pregnant in the first place? We're not talking about a woman developing breast cancer where she did nothing wrong and ended up with a medical condition.
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Textbook ConkSleaze exaggeration, kids.

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89Hen wrote: If Libs had their way, a woman can have unprotected sex, get pregnant and then have her employer pay for an abortion. She will suffer the mental anguish if she ends up feeling guilty after the fact, but where exactly is the accountability for getting pregnant in the first place? .
It's the employer's responsibility to provide "life management skills" training so the woman will never be placed in that situation. Failing that duty, the employer is responsible and culpable for all damages, pain and suffering.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Image

Textbook ConkSleaze exaggeration, kids.

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What is exaggerated Cat?

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89Hen wrote:
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Textbook ConkSleaze exaggeration, kids.

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What is exaggerated Cat?

BTW, how many fingers have you downloaded?? ;)

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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Well, there is another option... but, I certainly don't think social conservatives like the Hobby Lobby owners want to think of the results of poor people getting pregnant... and resorting to other options....

Easily affordable and accessible contraceptives = less abortions. Is that a presumption on my part, or... can we all agree on that?

Some Conks know this support making birth control pills over-the-counter. That's certainly a good start. :thumb:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 99616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I disapprove of any medication being available over the counter….

…because then my pre-tax HSA won’t pick up the costs. :thumbdown:
Don't forget that Obama promised he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class. Even though this was a net tax increase on everybody. :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
No such thing as "abortion pills." The "morning after pill" will not work if the woman is already pregnant when she takes it.

And, for your second point. There is still accountability to take care of it yourself. You can have dental coverage... but, you are still accountable to actually get dental care so your teeth don't rot out. How is dental coverage a lack of personal accountability? :? :roll:
You've been relying on Planned Parenthood for your info. From the drug makers website:
Levonorgestrel tablets, 0.75mg contain the same medication found in many popular oral contraceptives. By using an elevated dose, Levonorgestrel tablets, 0.75mg function in the same manner as
routine oral contraceptives to prevent pregnancy by causing a delay in ovulation, or by interfering with fertilization or the implantation of a fertilized egg.
http://www.levo4u.com/pdf/pharmacist_info.pdf

Not really sure where you're going on the second part about dental coverage. :suspicious: If Libs had their way, a woman can have unprotected sex, get pregnant and then have her employer pay for an abortion. She will suffer the mental anguish if she ends up feeling guilty after the fact, but where exactly is the accountability for getting pregnant in the first place? We're not talking about a woman developing breast cancer where she did nothing wrong and ended up with a medical condition.
And don't forget having to pay for counseling and MLA time as well.
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