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No they haven't.

Lmao at conks who equate just the presidency with power. :lol:
Really? Because the way Obama ignores the rule of law and the constitution, the rest of the elected officials are just window dressing. He pretty much does whatever he fucking wants....

LOL at your short-term memory. Obama is a strict follower of the rule of law and the Constitution compared to the Bush/Cheney cabal.
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dbackjon wrote:
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Really? Because the way Obama ignores the rule of law and the constitution, the rest of the elected officials are just window dressing. He pretty much does whatever he fucking wants....

LOL at your short-term memory. Obama is a strict follower of the rule of law and the Constitution compared to the Bush/Cheney cabal.
:lol: Are you living under a rock?! I mean, I voted for the guy in 2004 but he isn't a saint.

Besides, Bush is no longer President. You rabid left wing people are giving liberally minded people a bad name. It's time to act like an adult and stop giving Obama a free pass on illegal an/or unethical activities under the notion that it's fine b/c it's not as bad as something Bush did. :roll: That excuse works nowhere. You can't commit murder and then say, "Well, Zimmerman did it and didn't go to jail."
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dbackjon wrote:

LOL at your short-term memory. Obama is a strict follower of the rule of law and the Constitution compared to the Bush/Cheney cabal.
:lol: Are you living under a rock?! I mean, I voted for the guy in 2004 but he isn't a saint.

Besides, Bush is no longer President. You rabid left wing people are giving liberally minded people a bad name. It's time to act like an adult and stop giving Obama a free pass on illegal an/or unethical activities under the notion that it's fine b/c it's not as bad as something Bush did. :roll: That excuse works nowhere. You can't commit murder and then say, "Well, Zimmerman did it and didn't go to jail."

No, I live under a roof.

What I am referring to is the Right's obsession to try to make an impeachable case over EVERYTHING Obama does, while forgetting they excused Bush when he did far, far worse.

Case in point - the right is up in arms over deleted emails in the IRS non-scandal. Yet, the same righties said no big deal when the Bush administration deleted 22 MILLION emails that covered up the treasonous actions concerning Valerie Plame.

It is really pathetic, actually.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
:lol: Are you living under a rock?! I mean, I voted for the guy in 2004 but he isn't a saint.

Besides, Bush is no longer President. You rabid left wing people are giving liberally minded people a bad name. It's time to act like an adult and stop giving Obama a free pass on illegal an/or unethical activities under the notion that it's fine b/c it's not as bad as something Bush did. :roll: That excuse works nowhere. You can't commit murder and then say, "Well, Zimmerman did it and didn't go to jail."

No, I live under a roof.

What I am referring to is the Right's obsession to try to make an impeachable case over EVERYTHING Obama does, while forgetting they excused Bush when he did far, far worse.

Case in point - the right is up in arms over deleted emails in the IRS non-scandal. Yet, the same righties said no big deal when the Bush administration deleted 22 MILLION emails that covered up the treasonous actions concerning Valerie Plame.

It is really pathetic, actually.
I agree, not everything a President does is impeachable but again, bringing up someone else's misdeeds to justify/excuse your own is pathetic and a moot point. It's so beyond irrelevant a new word should be created to describe it. What Bush did is irrelevant. Obama is in charge and the law is still the law. :coffee: Are we going to excuse him for deleting 18 1/2 minutes of tape just barbecue Nixon did it? Are we going to say it's ok for every Republican president to attack a country and kill people, just as long as the death count doesn't exceed that of Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
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A reach, I know, but it's there to prove a point.
Having said that, the IRS scandal is pretty damning. The Bush administration is as guilty as is the Obama administration. Deleting evidence or something that many be evidence is obstruction, regardless if R or D is after your name (or if President precedes it). Knowing the gov't system, and being out of the Beltway, I find it highly suspect that back ups of back ups, emails, correspondence, etc.. are all gone. Her emails may be missing, but if they are missing from the recipients than that is very suspicious. Is it impeachable? Doubt it. Is what they did to the Tea party groups (whom I loathe with a passion) legal? I think not. Did Obama know about? At some level he probably did. I find it equally hard to believe that Obama learns about every single problem via the news.
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89Hen wrote:
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If liberals were in charge, we would have a 20th of the military and government workers would be of high quality.
Not what you said. You said "all government employees are dolts"... a majority of government employees are liberals (64.3%).
Apples and oranges. Talking bout liberal pres, congress and senate, you know, the people in charge.

If most government employees are liberal (even in the military?), fine. They're dolts.
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89Hen wrote: Not what you said. You said "all government employees are dolts"... a majority of government employees are liberals (64.3%).

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AZGrizFan wrote:
D1B wrote:
No they haven't.

Lmao at conks who equate just the presidency with power. :lol:
Really? Because the way Obama ignores the rule of law and the constitution, the rest of the elected officials are just window dressing. He pretty much does whatever he fucking wants....
What country have you been living in?
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