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Kudos to this guy for standing up for the law.

The DUI checkpoints are also illegal (even though a lot of people argue they aren't).

It's hard to believe in this day and age of mass surveillance that they don't already know who the illegal aliens are and who are regular citizens... They do already have a license plate reader when you pull up to these checkpoints in the office kiosk, which shows who the car is registered to with a photo of that person.. so most of the time they are just harassing people, because they know who you are before you even pull up.

I have no problem with enforcing border stuff- but keep the checkpoints away from the interior of the US.. it's really that simple. It seems more and more these checkpoints are being used to put regular citizens "in their place" and afraid of the government, which is not the reason we are paying our taxes.
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This looked a bit like a douche bag contest that went OT.
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Jesus H. Christ I hate douchebags like that. Fucking hold up the whole line just to make his stupid "point" with the officers.

Same guy probably pisses and moans about how the U.S. isn't doing enough to keep the brown people out of 'Murica.
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expandspanos wrote:Kudos to this guy for standing up for the law.

The DUI checkpoints are also illegal (even though a lot of people argue they aren't).

It's hard to believe in this day and age of mass surveillance that they don't already know who the illegal aliens are and who are regular citizens... They do already have a license plate reader when you pull up to these checkpoints in the office kiosk, which shows who the car is registered to with a photo of that person WRONG- the tech exists but it is not used at mobile checkpoints and it will NOT pull up a person's picture.. so most of the time they are just harassing people, because they know who you are before you even pull up. WRONG again

I have no problem with enforcing border stuff- but keep the checkpoints away from the interior of the US.. it's really that simple. It seems more and more these checkpoints are being used to put regular citizens "in their place" and afraid of the government, which is not the reason we are paying our taxes.
I don't like checkpoints either

but your posts is as usual chock full of inaccuracy

you are the broken clock on this one
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AZGrizFan wrote:Jesus H. Christ I hate douchebags like that. Fucking hold up the whole line just to make his stupid "point" with the officers.

Same guy probably pisses and moans about how the U.S. isn't doing enough to keep the brown people out of 'Murica.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Jesus H. Christ I hate douchebags like that. Fucking hold up the whole line just to make his stupid "point" with the officers.

Same guy probably pisses and moans about how the U.S. isn't doing enough to keep the brown people out of 'Murica.
Creating awareness of our rights is more important than you getting to Starbucks quicker, there Chet. :coffee:
Doesn't Chet have a right to get to Starbuck more quickly?
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
Creating awareness of our rights is more important than you getting to Starbucks quicker, there Chet. :coffee:
Doesn't Chet have a right to get to Starbuck more quickly?
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89Hen wrote:This looked a bit like a douche bag contest that went OT.

:rofl:

I got interesting when the boss showed up - I was like - Uh* Oh* dads here...
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CID1990 wrote:
expandspanos wrote:Kudos to this guy for standing up for the law.

The DUI checkpoints are also illegal (even though a lot of people argue they aren't).

It's hard to believe in this day and age of mass surveillance that they don't already know who the illegal aliens are and who are regular citizens... They do already have a license plate reader when you pull up to these checkpoints in the office kiosk, which shows who the car is registered to with a photo of that person WRONG- the tech exists but it is not used at mobile checkpoints and it will NOT pull up a person's picture.. so most of the time they are just harassing people, because they know who you are before you even pull up. WRONG again

I have no problem with enforcing border stuff- but keep the checkpoints away from the interior of the US.. it's really that simple. It seems more and more these checkpoints are being used to put regular citizens "in their place" and afraid of the government, which is not the reason we are paying our taxes.
I don't like checkpoints either

but your posts is as usual chock full of inaccuracy

you are the broken clock on this one
Uh Cid, some do. I tested some a while ago that do just that. While not at all or most, they are used in some check points when searching for a specific person(s) and/or vehicle. My colleagues in Texas use them frequently in that regard. They are very very new and early stage but they'll scan the plate, get the owners name, then go through criminal records (as long as they are in the system) to find an ID.
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Cid is partially right, the technology isn't there, per se. But it's being developed though It's not mainstream. But I think spandos is confusing license plate readers with the license scanner that some police departments are starting to use (aside from those in the vehicles).
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I don't like checkpoints either

but your posts is as usual chock full of inaccuracy

you are the broken clock on this one
Uh Cid, some do. I tested some a while ago that do just that. While not at all or most, they are used in some check points when searching for a specific person(s) and/or vehicle. My colleagues in Texas use them frequently in that regard. They are very very new and early stage but they'll scan the plate, get the owners name, then go through criminal records (as long as they are in the system) to find an ID.

I was referring specifially to the photo. You cannot pull one of those up automatically with this technology

now if you have a few minutes to goof around on a computer, you can get the photo in some case IF you have that state's login for their DMV files AND the driver of the car is the same person it is registered to

but in reality, the license plate scanning technology is still kludgy (I know this because I not only used it, I help test one compnay's version of it- the mobile mounted one).

Being able to call up owner info is as old as NCIC- in other words... about as old as the teletype. Nothing new there

Hardly the bIG bROTHER 'we got our technology from aliens' high technology that Spandos dreamed up last night while watching the X files
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Uh Cid, some do. I tested some a while ago that do just that. While not at all or most, they are used in some check points when searching for a specific person(s) and/or vehicle. My colleagues in Texas use them frequently in that regard. They are very very new and early stage but they'll scan the plate, get the owners name, then go through criminal records (as long as they are in the system) to find an ID.

I was referring specifially to the photo. You cannot pull one of those up automatically with this technology

now if you have a few minutes to goof around on a computer, you can get the photo in some case IF you have that state's login for their DMV files AND the driver of the car is the same person it is registered to

but in reality, the license plate scanning technology is still kludgy (I know this because I not only used it, I help test one compnay's version of it- the mobile mounted one).

Being able to call up owner info is as old as NCIC- in other words... about as old as the teletype. Nothing new there

Hardly the bIG bROTHER 'we got our technology from aliens' high technology that Spandos dreamed up last night while watching the X files
Spandos is wrong, no doubt. But I did some of the testing last year with a few companies that are designing (really trying to integrate) the multiple technologies.
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Also add to this that not all states (only about half of them) store their drivers license pictures in retreivable form online- AND you have to be able to log in. I had access to SC's and GA and that was it. Not even the Feds have SC's so I am wondering what photo databases Spandy would be referring to since DMV files are the main clearinghouse for photos of people's faces

I suppose the Feds have hacked those state accounts surreptitiously, and at the same time are using men in black flashy amnesia pens to erase people's memories every time they realize that they have hacked state DMV files
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CID1990 wrote:Also add to this that not all states (only about half of them) store their drivers license pictures in retreivable form online- AND you have to be able to log in. I had access to SC's and GA and that was it. Not even the Feds have SC's so I am wondering what photo databases Spandy would be referring to since DMV files are the main clearinghouse for photos of people's faces

I suppose the Feds have hacked those state accounts surreptitiously, and at the same time are using men in black flashy amnesia pens to erase people's memories every time they realize that they have hacked state DMV files
Unless the Feds are hacking into state accounts, they only have have the NCIC database to work from. But, you and I are obvious liars. We are (were, kind of still am) the man.
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Also add to this that not all states (only about half of them) store their drivers license pictures in retreivable form online- AND you have to be able to log in. I had access to SC's and GA and that was it. Not even the Feds have SC's so I am wondering what photo databases Spandy would be referring to since DMV files are the main clearinghouse for photos of people's faces

I suppose the Feds have hacked those state accounts surreptitiously, and at the same time are using men in black flashy amnesia pens to erase people's memories every time they realize that they have hacked state DMV files
Unless the Feds are hacking into state accounts, they only have have the NCIC database to work from. But, you and I are obvious liars. We are (were, kind of still am) the man.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Unless the Feds are hacking into state accounts, they only have have the NCIC database to work from. But, you and I are obvious liars. We are (were, kind of still am) the man.
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expandspanos wrote:Kudos to this guy for standing up for the law.

The DUI checkpoints are also illegal (even though a lot of people argue they aren't).

It's hard to believe in this day and age of mass surveillance that they don't already know who the illegal aliens are and who are regular citizens... They do already have a license plate reader when you pull up to these checkpoints in the office kiosk, which shows who the car is registered to with a photo of that person.. so most of the time they are just harassing people, because they know who you are before you even pull up.

I have no problem with enforcing border stuff- but keep the checkpoints away from the interior of the US.. it's really that simple. It seems more and more these checkpoints are being used to put regular citizens "in their place" and afraid of the government, which is not the reason we are paying our taxes.
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bandl wrote:
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bandl wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
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Didn't you post a picture of yourself in a seersucker suit last week?!?! :suspicious:
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Ibanez wrote:
bandl wrote: :tothehand:
Didn't you post a picture of yourself in a seersucker suit last week?!?! :suspicious:
Are you hating the game?
No just his choice of apparel
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The check point is a complete waste of time. I'd like to see some statistics of how well they work in this scenario. My guess is they aren't doing shit and we could be spending our money in better places.
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If they guy REALLY wants to be a stud about it, just blow through the fucking checkpoint instead of stopping and delaying everybody else in the process.
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