Bad precedent

[CID1990]

Again. How do you know this? Why not ATTEMPT to save them?

They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies

Yes-

the ARB which was picked by Hillary Clinton and never bothered to interview either her OR Patrick Kennedy made this determination.

You'd be beside yourself with rage if this was a Republican admin doing this.

Since you are going to be one of the last liberals outside the actual administration calling these "fake scandals" .... be sure to turn the lights out when you leave, if you ever do

[YoUDeeMan]

he's done plenty wrong. As has every other president. Just the Conks get up in arms and cry "Impeach" "traitor" "worst thing ever" whenever Obama does anything, even if Bush/Reagan had done the same thing 20 times before.

And the Right-wing Media and the sheeple lap it all up.

It was the Same thing during Bush. Just because one party does it, that doesn't make it ok or others to do it. Fuck, we teach that to CHILDREN.

Yes, but do you teach that to gay children?

[Ibanez]

It was the Same thing during Bush. Just because one party does it, that doesn't make it ok or others to do it. Fuck, we teach that to CHILDREN.

Yes, but do you teach that to gay children?

Yes. But not to transgendered.

[Skjellyfetti]

[Grizalltheway]

Conks.

[Ibanez]

Who wants to bet this fucker returns to Afghanistan?

[ASUG8]

Conks.

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

[Ibanez]

Wait until the news reports that he mailed all his gear home 3 days before walking off base.

[CID1990]

Conks.

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

Dont let perspective get in the way of a good deflection, G8

[andy7171]

Conks.

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

This. You'd have thought Obama would have thunk that part through. Congress seems to have when they nixed the plan multiple time before in the last few months or so.

[Skjellyfetti]

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[CID1990]

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OH

It was in rolling stone

idiots shoulda read rolling stone

[Skjellyfetti]

OH

It was in rolling stone

idiots shoulda read rolling stone

Look at the timeline of their first response (May / June 2012) - in support of Bergdahl - all coincide with the Rolling Stone piece that was big news and picked up by major news outlets. Bergdahl's story wasn't that well known before that article.

you damn sure dont do them without consulting Congress

Also, idiots should read the Rolling Stone piece before making comments like this.

The tensions came to a boil in January, when administration officials went to Capitol Hill to brief a handful of senators on the possibility of a prisoner exchange. The meeting, which excluded staffers, took place in a new secure conference room in the Capitol visitor center. According to sources in the briefing, the discussion sparked a sharp exchange between Senators John McCain and John Kerry, both of whom were decorated for their service in Vietnam. McCain, who endured almost six years of captivity as a prisoner of war, threw a fit at the prospect of releasing five Taliban detainees.

"They're the five biggest murderers in world history!" McCain fumed.

Kerry, who supported the transfer, thought that was going a bit far. "John," he said, "the five biggest murderers in the world?"

McCain was furious at the rebuke. "They killed Americans!" he responded. "I suppose Senator Kerry is OK with that?"

McCain reluctantly came around on the prisoner exchange, according to those present at the meeting, but he has continued to speak out against negotiating with the Taliban. Opposition has also come from Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Republican from Georgia who won election with a vicious smear campaign against former Sen. Max Cleland, a decorated Vietnam veteran who lost three limbs in the war. Chambliss, according to Bowe's father, has insisted that America shouldn't make a prisoner trade for a "deserter."

[Grizalltheway]

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OH

It was in rolling stone

idiots shoulda read rolling stone

Maybe they should just read, period.

[ASUG8]

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So were you aware of these desertion claims since '09 and read the RS article in '12 or did you just Google it to see if I was right?

[CitadelGrad]

Again. How do you know this? Why not ATTEMPT to save them?

They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies

8 hours. That is the length of time between the start of the first attack and the the compound being overrun.

Of course the narrative is that the military could not do anything in that amount of time, and dumbass, never-served-in-the-military, Obamabot fucks like you buy it.

There is not one place on this planet where the United States cannot drop a bomb in 8 hours. There are very few places on the planet where the United States can't put a cruise missile in 8 hours. I'm wondering if you considered the tactical air assets and airborne brigade that we have stationed in Italy. I guarantee you that we had at least one cruise missile-equipped destroyer in the Mediterranean that night -- and probably had much more. Of course we had special op asset inside Libya that were told to stand down and not allowed to go to Benghazi.

You don't just buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. You want and need to buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. It's the only way a pathetic, insecure fuck like you can get some affirmation.

[andy7171]

Ouch.
I wasn't aware of a Rolling Stone article that mentioned anything about anything until this guy was released. Nor did a lot of people. But the story wasn't supported by his fellow soldiers. Why? Maybe because of what Rice said about his honorable service. That's something those that do have care about.

[CID1990]

OH

It was in rolling stone

idiots shoulda read rolling stone

Look at the timeline of their first response (May / June 2012) - in support of Bergdahl - all coincide with the Rolling Stone piece that was big news and picked up by major news outlets. Bergdahl's story wasn't that well known before that article.

you damn sure dont do them without consulting Congress

Also, idiots should read the Rolling Stone piece before making comments like this.

The tensions came to a boil in January, when administration officials went to Capitol Hill to brief a handful of senators on the possibility of a prisoner exchange. The meeting, which excluded staffers, took place in a new secure conference room in the Capitol visitor center. According to sources in the briefing, the discussion sparked a sharp exchange between Senators John McCain and John Kerry, both of whom were decorated for their service in Vietnam. McCain, who endured almost six years of captivity as a prisoner of war, threw a fit at the prospect of releasing five Taliban detainees.

"They're the five biggest murderers in world history!" McCain fumed.

Kerry, who supported the transfer, thought that was going a bit far. "John," he said, "the five biggest murderers in the world?"

McCain was furious at the rebuke. "They killed Americans!" he responded. "I suppose Senator Kerry is OK with that?"

McCain reluctantly came around on the prisoner exchange, according to those present at the meeting, but he has continued to speak out against negotiating with the Taliban. Opposition has also come from Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Republican from Georgia who won election with a vicious smear campaign against former Sen. Max Cleland, a decorated Vietnam veteran who lost three limbs in the war. Chambliss, according to Bowe's father, has insisted that America shouldn't make a prisoner trade for a "deserter."

Look, I know it has been a tough year on you Obama worshippers, but this last part is immaterial.

The complaint from Congress RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK is that they were not consulted on the exchange. It was floated 5 years ago, Skelty! Heck, remember how Benghazi was immaterial, because you know, it was like, TWO YEARS AGO?

even Dianne Feinstein is complaining about not being consulted because the exchange was not cleared, but apparently guys like you are ignoring those inconvenient facts.

Please, continue to tell us how the events described in rolling stone are material

[Ibanez]

To be fair, the desertion allegations didn't become public until his release was pending. The media wasn't interviewing his fellow soldiers until the transfer began to materialize.

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I had the pleasure of speaking with former Army Intel officers this week. It was desertion from day 1.

[andy7171]

The Fienstein accusation. Really REALLY stands out for me. As well as the comments from vets actually with honor.

[DSUrocks07]

Not true at all. The desertion claims have been out there and published since 2009. Without the desertion claims, we would have gotten him back a long time ago.

Most of the first tweets supporting Bergdahl are from around the time of a 2012 Rolling Stone profile on him. It goes in depth on the desertion allegations.

(And details the briefings the White House had with Congress on the negotiations going back at least 2 years.)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... print=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I had the pleasure of speaking with former Army Intel officers this week. It was desertion from day 1.

Spitballing here, what are the odds of Bergdahl being on the list a Presidential pardons on Obama's last day in office.

[BlueHen86]

They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies

8 hours. That is the length of time between the start of the first attack and the the compound being overrun.

Of course the narrative is that the military could not do anything in that amount of time, and dumbass, never-served-in-the-military, Obamabot fucks like you buy it.

There is not one place on this planet where the United States cannot drop a bomb in 8 hours. There are very few places on the planet where the United States can't put a cruise missile in 8 hours. I'm wondering if you considered the tactical air assets and airborne brigade that we have stationed in Italy. I guarantee you that we had at least one cruise missile-equipped destroyer in the Mediterranean that night -- and probably had much more. Of course we had special op asset inside Libya that were told to stand down and not allowed to go to Benghazi.

You don't just buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. You want and need to buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. It's the only way a pathetic, insecure fuck like you can get some affirmation.

Amazing to me that conks make a huge deal about Bengazi, but have no problem with Iraq. Talk about buying bullshit out of the White House. I guess it depends on who is selling it.

[DSUrocks07]

8 hours. That is the length of time between the start of the first attack and the the compound being overrun.

Of course the narrative is that the military could not do anything in that amount of time, and dumbass, never-served-in-the-military, Obamabot **** like you buy it.

There is not one place on this planet where the United States cannot drop a bomb in 8 hours. There are very few places on the planet where the United States can't put a cruise missile in 8 hours. I'm wondering if you considered the tactical air assets and airborne brigade that we have stationed in Italy. I guarantee you that we had at least one cruise missile-equipped destroyer in the Mediterranean that night -- and probably had much more. Of course we had special op asset inside Libya that were told to stand down and not allowed to go to Benghazi.

You don't just buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. You want and need to buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. It's the only way a pathetic, insecure **** like you can get some affirmation.

Amazing to me that conks make a huge deal about Bengazi, but have no problem with Iraq. Talk about buying bullshit out of the White House. I guess it depends on who is selling it.

Political pundicy is simply a game of, "but he did it first!!!"

[CID1990]

8 hours. That is the length of time between the start of the first attack and the the compound being overrun.

Of course the narrative is that the military could not do anything in that amount of time, and dumbass, never-served-in-the-military, Obamabot **** like you buy it.

There is not one place on this planet where the United States cannot drop a bomb in 8 hours. There are very few places on the planet where the United States can't put a cruise missile in 8 hours. I'm wondering if you considered the tactical air assets and airborne brigade that we have stationed in Italy. I guarantee you that we had at least one cruise missile-equipped destroyer in the Mediterranean that night -- and probably had much more. Of course we had special op asset inside Libya that were told to stand down and not allowed to go to Benghazi.

You don't just buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. You want and need to buy every piece of bullshit that comes out of the White House. It's the only way a pathetic, insecure **** like you can get some affirmation.

Amazing to me that conks make a huge deal about Bengazi, but have no problem with Iraq. Talk about buying bullshit out of the White House. I guess it depends on who is selling it.

One of the biggest chickenhawks in DC (and the woman you are going to vote for in 2016) apparently wasnt smart enough to see through the "bullshit" and authorized the war

so at the end of the day

what difference does it make?

[Grizalltheway]

Nice cop out.