Jesus had a wife

[Ibanez]

If Jesus did exist, he must have been a nobody in his own time or we'd have some first-hand accounts of him. Like I said before, he was only one of hundreds trying to fit themself into the messiah role at that time. The only thing exceptional about the Jesus version of the dying and resurrected sun god myth is that it was written down.

Not true, there are plenty of written down accounts from other people purporting to be messiah's as well. The exceptional thing is that billions of people have accepted Jesus as a true savior, even 2 milleniums after he lived, despite his personal reach at the time of his life being little more than the people around him. Pretty impressive for a nobody.

That wasn't Jesus' doing, it was an organization that had 2000 years to spread the concept.

[mrklean]

What difference does this make, if he was married???

It makes no difference. However, your post says that you don't believe him being married takes away from "the wonderful things he's done." That implies that you think his marriage WOULD make his actions less meaningful. I'm not surprised you don't understand what you wrote.

I did not say this. I was telling you my mother in law said. I think that being merried only makes what Jesus did even greater. In fact, Jesus should have written a Book on how to treat your wife. Jesus the Husband and the Father would be the most importent book in the Bible.

[JoltinJoe]

The only thing exceptional about the Jesus version of the dying and resurrected sun god myth is that it was written down.

Yawn, Mr. Flat Earther.

As the scholarly piece I cited above establishes, historians reject the lie that the Jesus story was based on pagan myth. There was no pagan "god" who was executed and resurrected. The claim that Jesus's story derives from pagan stories about resurrected gods is a fabrication, spread by flat-earthers by way of the interest who wither didn't go to college, or didn't study too hard when they were there. But scholars place no credence on this claim by flat earthers.

And let me break this news to you too. Mikey didn't die from a stomach explosion caused by mixing Pop Rocks and Coca Cola.

[Chizzang]

The only thing exceptional about the Jesus version of the dying and resurrected sun god myth is that it was written down.

Yawn, Mr. Flat Earther.

As the scholarly piece I cited above establishes, historians reject the lie that the Jesus story was based on pagan myth. There was no pagan "god" who was executed and resurrected. The claim that Jesus's story derives from pagan stories about resurrected gods is a fabrication, spread by flat-earthers by way of the interest who wither didn't go to college, or didn't study too hard when they were there. But scholars place no credence on this claim by flat earthers.

And let me break this news to you too. Mikey didn't die from a stomach explosion caused by mixing Pop Rocks and Coca Cola.

Now now... Joe
Please don't act like there hasn't been centuries of misdirection, concealment and flat out cover-ups in regards to the actual facts surrounding Jesus. So for whatever reason the church consensus apologists scholars and "TEAM JESUS" put forth... it's still ALL UP FOR DEBATE

I'm sorry, but there have been far too much in the way of shenanigans and clouded maneuverings to act like you're acting - as though - you have the facts and everybody else is a dullard

[Ibanez]

It makes no difference. However, your post says that you don't believe him being married takes away from "the wonderful things he's done." That implies that you think his marriage WOULD make his actions less meaningful. I'm not surprised you don't understand what you wrote.

I did not say this. I was telling you my mother in law said. I think that being merried only makes what Jesus did even greater. In fact, Jesus should have written a Book on how to treat your wife. Jesus the Husband and the Father would be the most importent book in the Bible.

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

[CitadelGrad]

I did not say this. I was telling you my mother in law said. I think that being merried only makes what Jesus did even greater. In fact, Jesus should have written a Book on how to treat your wife. Jesus the Husband and the Father would be the most importent book in the Bible.

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

klean, you should be embarrassed. You're getting skooled by a Coastal Carolina grad.

[Ibanez]

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

klean, you should be embarrassed. You're getting skooled by a Coastal Carolina grad.

That's hilarious.

[mrklean]

I did not say this. I was telling you my mother in law said. I think that being merried only makes what Jesus did even greater. In fact, Jesus should have written a Book on how to treat your wife. Jesus the Husband and the Father would be the most importent book in the Bible.

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

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[Ibanez]

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a shit!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

What are you talking about? Again, you aren't making any sense while at the same time showing that you are a hateful person. Jesus would not approve of this post. There isn't any need to get defensive. Maybe you should be a man, correction, be an adult and take criticism as it's intended. You should take pride in how you portray yourself. Right now, you are showing everyone what a low class, ignorant person you are. I anticipate your immature response.

[bandl]

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a shit!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Thanks for the new siggie!

[houndawg]

If Jesus did exist, he must have been a nobody in his own time or we'd have some first-hand accounts of him. Like I said before, he was only one of hundreds trying to fit themself into the messiah role at that time. The only thing exceptional about the Jesus version of the dying and resurrected sun god myth is that it was written down.

Not true, there are plenty of written down accounts from other people purporting to be messiah's as well. The exceptional thing is that billions of people have accepted Jesus as a true savior, even 2 milleniums after he lived, despite his personal reach at the time of his life being little more than the people around him. Pretty impressive for a nobody.

True, one does wonder how such a preposterous story can get legs, but hey, with a population of 8 billion there are bound to be a lot of people in that > 3 sigma outlier range.

[Chizzang]

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a shit!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Did this post ^ just land on a Jesus page
and followed a post on what being a good father and role model is all about

The ironical is ironic

[houndawg]

Stop. Just stop. Your English is so poor that you can't convey a simple thought. Seriously, you need to look at how you communicate. I'm shocked..SHOCKED.. that you manage a business.

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a ****!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Damn, Klean, you sure that's called for?....

[Ibanez]

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a shit!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Did this post ^ just land on a Jesus page
and followed a post on what being a good father and role model is all about

The ironical is ironic

Yes, that post actually happened. He got called out, again, for not making any sense and instead of being a man about it, he acts likes a brat and calls names. I admit, I should overlook the piss poor sentence structure, but it's ridiculous. How can you communicate with someone when their version of English makes you seizure. I feel like Kramer when he hears Mary Harts voice.

[mrklean]

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a ****!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Damn, Klean, you sure that's called for?....

No I don't like talking to a grown azz man like this. However, he made me do it. From time to time, I have to remind my dog that he is a dog and not a person.

[Ibanez]

Hes a Fag A out right Fag!!! A total Fag. A 100% Fag. A South Carolina Low Country Fag. A Shrimp and grits Fag. A Old South, Robert E. Lee t shirt wearing Fag. A Camero Ridding Classic Rock Fag. I can go on, but I go to take a ****!!!!! A you wanted to be a Marine Officer

Damn, Klean, you sure that's called for?....

I'm shocked he can correctly spell "Low Country."

[mrklean]

Did this post ^ just land on a Jesus page
and followed a post on what being a good father and role model is all about

The ironical is ironic

Yes, that post actually happened. He got called out, again, for not making any sense and instead of being a man about it, he acts likes a brat and calls names. I admit, I should overlook the piss poor sentence structure, but it's ridiculous. How can you communicate with someone when their version of English makes you seizure. I feel like Kramer when he hears Mary Harts voice.

WIMP

[Ibanez]

Damn, Klean, you sure that's called for?....

No I don't like talking to a grown azz man like this. However, he made me do it. From time to time, I have to remind my dog that he is a dog and not a person.

Dude, you are talking like a spoiled child. If you want to be treated like a man, talk and act like one.


Or as Dr. Dre said, "If you act like a bitch, you're gonna get smacked like a bitch." I'm paraphrasing, of course.

[Ibanez]

Yes, that post actually happened. He got called out, again, for not making any sense and instead of being a man about it, he acts likes a brat and calls names. I admit, I should overlook the piss poor sentence structure, but it's ridiculous. How can you communicate with someone when their version of English makes you seizure. I feel like Kramer when he hears Mary Harts voice.

WIMP

Says the man that would rather act like a child instead of growing as a human and improving his communication abilities.

[mrklean]

WIMP

Says the man that would rather act like a child instead of growing as a human and improving his communication abilities.

Back to the original Question. Yes it would be great if Jesus had a Wife. In fact, there is a Book that is not in the Cannon Bible, that states that he was Married to Marry Magdala. Its called the Gospel of Mary. lets see what I man has to say about this.

[Pwns]

Now now... Joe
Please don't act like there hasn't been centuries of misdirection, concealment and flat out cover-ups in regards to the actual facts surrounding Jesus. So for whatever reason the church consensus apologists scholars and "TEAM JESUS" put forth... it's still ALL UP FOR DEBATE

I'm sorry, but there have been far too much in the way of shenanigans and clouded maneuverings to act like you're acting - as though - you have the facts and everybody else is a dullard

You dare disagree with an overwhelming consensus of professional scholars who study the ancient world for a living? Let me guess, you must deny human activity causes climate change too!

[GannonFan]

Not true, there are plenty of written down accounts from other people purporting to be messiah's as well. The exceptional thing is that billions of people have accepted Jesus as a true savior, even 2 milleniums after he lived, despite his personal reach at the time of his life being little more than the people around him. Pretty impressive for a nobody.

True, one does wonder how such a preposterous story can get legs, but hey, with a population of 8 billion there are bound to be a lot of people in that > 3 sigma outlier range.

Well, 3 sigma out of 8 billion in a normal distribution would get you only 24 million people. Right now there are about 2.2 billion people who are Christians. That's hardly outlier range, statistically speaking of course.

[LeadBolt]

If Jesus did exist, he must have been a nobody in his own time or we'd have some first-hand accounts of him. Like I said before, he was only one of hundreds trying to fit themself into the messiah role at that time. The only thing exceptional about the Jesus version of the dying and resurrected sun god myth is that it was written down.

Not true, there are plenty of written down accounts from other people purporting to be messiah's as well. The exceptional thing is that billions of people have accepted Jesus as a true savior, even 2 milleniums after he lived, despite his personal reach at the time of his life being little more than the people around him. Pretty impressive for a nobody.

Among others, I believe that the Roman historian Tacitus, the Jewish Historian Josephus, and the Babylonian Talmud all referred to the historical Jesus in extra Biblical accounts during the first century AD. Of particular note is the Babylonian Talmud (composed between 70-200 AD), which would have had little reason to reference Jesus had he been a hoax.

[D1B]

Not true, there are plenty of written down accounts from other people purporting to be messiah's as well. The exceptional thing is that billions of people have accepted Jesus as a true savior, even 2 milleniums after he lived, despite his personal reach at the time of his life being little more than the people around him. Pretty impressive for a nobody.

Among others, I believe that the Roman historian Tacitus, the Jewish Historian Josephus, and the Babylonian Talmud all referred to the historical Jesus in extra Biblical accounts during the first century AD. Of particular note is the Babylonian Talmud (composed between 70-200 AD), which would have had little reason to reference Jesus had he been a hoax.

There are no eyewitness accounts of Jesus.

There are no signed and dated gospel manuscripts.

There are no original gospel manuscripts.

Only 4 gospels speak of Jesus and none of them jive with each other.

No one knows on what day jesus was born or died. The dates we use now coincide with celestial events - pagans did the same shit and we should put as much faith and scrutiny into the birth of christ that we do Apollo.

There are literally hundreds of stories/myths, some identical, of the virgin giving birth to god that predate christianity.

Here's one that includes the Annunciation, the Conception, the Birth, and the Adoration of the gospel of Luke:

"In this picture we have the Annunciation, the Conception, the Birth, and the Adoration, as described in the First and Second Chapters of Luke's Gospel; and as we have historical assurance that the chapters in Matthew's Gospel which contain the Miraculous Birth of Jesus are an after addition not in the earliest manuscripts, it seems probable that these two poetical chapters in Luke may also be unhistorical, and be borrowed from the Egyptian accounts of the miraculous birth of their kings."

Dr. Samuel C. Sharpe, Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity (p. 19)

Much much more. Joe will no doubt reply with some abstract from a close freind of his who is a world renowned theologists, but the fact is there is just as much evidence for a historical Apollo as there is for Jesus.

That billions of people believe this crap has nothing to do with historical integrity and everything to do with thousands of years of brainwashing, forced indoctrination, serepticious god creating, death and torturture for non belief and cycical manipulation of data.

[D1B]

True, one does wonder how such a preposterous story can get legs, but hey, with a population of 8 billion there are bound to be a lot of people in that > 3 sigma outlier range.

Well, 3 sigma out of 8 billion in a normal distribution would get you only 24 million people. Right now there are about 2.2 billion people who are Christians. That's hardly outlier range, statistically speaking of course.

Billions of people don't believe that crap too. Those who do were forced to believe it by the sword for 2000 years. Your children are forced to believe it or be punished by you. That's why so many believe.

Before your bullshit, millions believed in Apollo and the mess of other gods.