Ruby Ridge-style standoff? Bundy says he is prepared to Die

[dbackjon]

I hope he kills 200+ federal officers...........its their choice to start this and I hope he finishes it.

You are a fucking traitorous moron.

[dbackjon]

I thought Reagan was dead?

What is it about the left that they have to live in the past?


Oh, BTW I am heading to Nevada. Listen for drone stories in the news..........

World would have been much better off if Reagan had died 25 years before he did.

Many lives would have been saved.

[houndawg]

Tighter borders wouldn't have done a thing to stop McVeigh, or Atlanta, or Boston, and in about five years they won't have any role at all in terror attacks.

Right now we have all the drones.

Who ever claimed tighter borders would have any impact domestic nut jobs. Tighter borders won't fix the populations propensity to be overweight, Obamacare or cure hangovers either. Nice dodge.

For the bolded part above, all I can say is "That's one opinion".

Well, you did, actually, if you'll take the time to read what you wrote. You spoke of unprotected borders putting us at risk of terror attacks and I pointed out that they don't do much to stop terror attacks evidently. Then you moved the goalposts. See? Now if you had been a bit more precise and written what you actually meant, that you were referring to foreign terror attacks then I would have answered differently. This is why you should be more clear when you post, LB.

Of course we could have had customs agents standing shoulder-to-shoulder on every border the nation has and it wouldn't have stopped 9/11.

And to your "one opinion" comment I would ask what you think is going to happen when our enemies have drones too?

[houndawg]

I thought Reagan was dead?

What is it about the left that they have to live in the past?


Oh, BTW I am heading to Nevada. Listen for drone stories in the news..........

I bet the BLM is in the panic mode now.

[CID1990]

I really don't think this guy or his "supporters" should be held forth as poster children for the anti-statist/Federalist movement.

[CitadelGrad]

I hope he kills 200+ federal officers...........its their choice to start this and I hope he finishes it.

You are a fucking traitorous moron.

Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, Washington, etc. were traitors also. Treason against tyranny is a great virtue.

[Grizalltheway]

I really don't think this guy or his "supporters" should be held forth as poster children for the anti-statist/Federalist movement.

Yeah, it's a shame people like alphie aren't intelligent enough to realize that. Then again, he is the poster child for conk kneejerk-ism.

[kalm]

You are a fucking traitorous moron.

Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, Washington, etc. were traitors also. Treason against tyranny is a great virtue.

The tyranny of paying next to nothing and following fair regulations to run cattle on my land?



Not only should the indians arm themselves and start taking back their historical stomping grounds but the illegal aliens should go after Nevada as it belonged to Spain WAY before the Bundy family worked it. I'm sure Alpha, LB, and Cgrad would support armed revolt against the border patrol, local sheriffs, national guard…whichever tyrannical agency got in their way.

[houndawg]

Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, Washington, etc. were traitors also. Treason against tyranny is a great virtue.

The tyranny of paying next to nothing and following fair regulations to run cattle on my land?



Not only should the indians arm themselves and start taking back their historical stomping grounds but the illegal aliens should go after Nevada as it belonged to Spain WAY before the Bundy family worked it. I'm sure Alpha, LB, and Cgrad would support armed revolt against the border patrol, local sheriffs, national guard…whichever tyrannical agency got in their way.

The land was ceded to the US by Mexico. Bundy has no claim, he's a squatter. If this were an Occupy event these guys would be demanding air strikes.

[kalm]

The tyranny of paying next to nothing and following fair regulations to run cattle on my land?



Not only should the indians arm themselves and start taking back their historical stomping grounds but the illegal aliens should go after Nevada as it belonged to Spain WAY before the Bundy family worked it. I'm sure Alpha, LB, and Cgrad would support armed revolt against the border patrol, local sheriffs, national guard…whichever tyrannical agency got in their way.

The land was ceded to the US by Mexico. Bundy has no claim, he's a squatter. If this were an Occupy event these guys would be demanding air strikes.

[CID1990]

The tyranny of paying next to nothing and following fair regulations to run cattle on my land?



Not only should the indians arm themselves and start taking back their historical stomping grounds but the illegal aliens should go after Nevada as it belonged to Spain WAY before the Bundy family worked it. I'm sure Alpha, LB, and Cgrad would support armed revolt against the border patrol, local sheriffs, national guard…whichever tyrannical agency got in their way.

The land was ceded to the US by Mexico. Bundy has no claim, he's a squatter. If this were an Occupy event these guys would be demanding air strikes.

If air strikes were even a possible reality, I would gladly give you airstrikes on Bundy in return for airstrikes on the Occupy idiots

it really sounds like a win - win to me

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I hope he kills 200+ federal officers...........its their choice to start this and I hope he finishes it.

You are a fucking traitorous moron.

Coming from you I take that as a fu*king badge of honor........

[travelinman67]

I thought Reagan was dead?

What is it about the left that they have to live in the past?


Oh, BTW I am heading to Nevada. Listen for drone stories in the news..........

World would have been much better off if Reagan had died 25 years before he did.

Many lives would have been saved.

You are a fucking traitorous moron.

[kalm]

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Thanks Reagan!

[SDHornet]

Yes, but you want them to blame the victim when it would be much faster and cheaper to go after those who hire them. Illegals won't come if there aren't any jobs.

The only victims here are the thousands of legal aliens we have and the thousands of those who wait off shore to come legally who abide by the laws and those here who suffer from the unrestricted and unregulated illegal immigration and unprotected borders that allow criminals and drugs to pour into the country.

The criminals are the illegal aliens and their knowing illegal employers. I've got no problem with prosecuting those who hire them as well as deporting the illegals.

What we really need to do is put in place reasonable immigration and guest worker laws and enforce them while protecting our borders, not what we have now of fatally flawed laws we don't enforce and unprotected borders that put us at risk for a terror attack and leave us vulnerable to the Mexican cartels.

I see irony in this statement given that this is in a thread about a rancher who decided not to follow the rules as well. Seems to have been working out fine for Bundy, seems to be working out fine for the illegal’s to apply the same strategy.

My general thoughts on this thread:
1) Houndy is absolutely pwning the illegal immigration debate going on here. No need for my input…again…
2) Bundy isn’t playing by the same set of rules all the other BLM ranchers are. Looks like any rancher who continues to pay BLM fees are fucking idiots.
3) BLM shouldn’t have tried to use force as intimidation. Not sure why the usually Fed way of garnishing wages/financial penalties weren't employed in this situation. It set up a comical situation such as…
4) the Obama administration getting pwned and out maneuvered again in yet another situation. I mean the Fed getting completely worked by a rancher and a few militia minions? Well played Obama, well played.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

That's why this media lie about him not paying is BS, they would have frozen his bank account and just stole the money from Bundy the way they do the rest of us.

Libs are too fu*king stupid to figure that out plus they want to live in the past and blame this on a dead president than the dumb POS currently in the White House.

[houndawg]

That's why this media lie about him not paying is BS, they would have frozen his bank account and just stole the money from Bundy the way they do the rest of us.

Libs are too fu*king stupid to figure that out plus they want to live in the past and blame this on a dead president than the dumb POS currently in the White House.

Fvcking weasel probably doesn't pay his taxes either since he doesn't recognize the authority of the feds.

[houndawg]

That's why this media lie about him not paying is BS, they would have frozen his bank account and just stole the money from Bundy the way they do the rest of us.

Libs are too fu*king stupid to figure that out plus they want to live in the past and blame this on a dead president than the dumb POS currently in the White House.

Not his fault that Reagan went around congress to impose a tax on cattlepersons.

[houndawg]

That's why this media lie about him not paying is BS, they would have frozen his bank account and just stole the money from Bundy the way they do the rest of us.

Libs are too fu*king stupid to figure that out plus they want to live in the past and blame this on a dead president than the dumb POS currently in the White House.

You haven't left for Nevada yet?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

That's why this media lie about him not paying is BS, they would have frozen his bank account and just stole the money from Bundy the way they do the rest of us.

Libs are too fu*king stupid to figure that out plus they want to live in the past and blame this on a dead president than the dumb POS currently in the White House.

You haven't left for Nevada yet?

I'm here, posting on my iPad. They have 4g capabilities, plus I have an app on here that I am going to need.

[houndawg]

You haven't left for Nevada yet?

I'm here, posting on my iPad. They have 4g capabilities, plus I have an app on here that I am going to need.

Careful you don't shoot your pecker off.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

[Grizalltheway]

You haven't left for Nevada yet?

I'm here, posting on my iPad. They have 4g capabilities, plus I have an app on here that I am going to need.

You realize this shit is over, right? Are you there to give Bundy a congratulatory handy?

[houndawg]

put your weapon down first.

[houndawg]

I'm here, posting on my iPad. They have 4g capabilities, plus I have an app on here that I am going to need.

You realize this **** is over, right? Are you there to give Bundy a congratulatory handy?

Just send the snipers out to shoot his cattle that are on BLM land. They look half-starved anyway, he'd lose his azz if we weren't paying for the little bit that he feeds them.