Man cleared of NYC murder after 25 years in prison

[YoUDeeMan]

Clucks assessment of you is spot-on.

Tell me when I lied I man. The one thing I dont do is lie. I like everyone, however, I call it like I see it.

Not sure what lying has to do with anything we're discussing (at least some of us...you certainly don't have any clue about what most folks are discussing).

You are a racist. That is clear as a bell. Liking everyone doesn't have anything to do with it.

[mrklean]

Tell me when I lied I man. The one thing I dont do is lie. I like everyone, however, I call it like I see it.

Not sure what lying has to do with anything we're discussing (at least some of us...you certainly don't have any clue about what most folks are discussing).

You are a racist. That is clear as a bell. Liking everyone doesn't have anything to do with it.

Look at the pot......

[YoUDeeMan]

Not sure what lying has to do with anything we're discussing (at least some of us...you certainly don't have any clue about what most folks are discussing).

You are a racist. That is clear as a bell. Liking everyone doesn't have anything to do with it.

Look at the pot......

It's good that you've stopped denying that you are a racist...you know in your heart that you are a racist and simply can't deny it anymore. Lance Armstrong, meet klean.

However, you are still projecting your short comings.

One step at a time, klean, one step at a time.

[Ibanez]

Sure thing, and i'll do that once you learn how to construct a coherent sentence.

See you can't answer the question. Your bigotry glasses only looks one way. All the racist comments that Chick U has said, you have never said anything to him. But when I tell the truth, I'm the bigot. But hey, I'm a big boy. Ill deal with it. I guess that's SC rules of racism

You're wrong. You don't deal with it. It's been pointed out to you countless times yet you ignore it. I've called out plenty of people on here for racist or bigot comments. See JSO, for example. There isn't any "SC rules of racism." There's only what I see. And what I see is a black man, that blames everything on a white man. I see a black man that always defends another black man (Trayvon) solely because they are black. You should be more like Kobe (but not the raping).

[Ibanez]

Not sure what lying has to do with anything we're discussing (at least some of us...you certainly don't have any clue about what most folks are discussing).

You are a racist. That is clear as a bell. Liking everyone doesn't have anything to do with it.

Look at the pot......

You even said it yourself that you know not to talk bad about white people in church. Listen, we all have our moments. But you seem to live in that moment. I think a lot of it has to do with your upbringing and the culture. My parents taught me to treat everyone equally and with respect, regardless of the color. I guess that's "SC rules for being a decent human being."

[mrklean]

See you can't answer the question. Your bigotry glasses only looks one way. All the racist comments that Chick U has said, you have never said anything to him. But when I tell the truth, I'm the bigot. But hey, I'm a big boy. Ill deal with it. I guess that's SC rules of racism

You're wrong. You don't deal with it. It's been pointed out to you countless times yet you ignore it. I've called out plenty of people on here for racist or bigot comments. See JSO, for example. There isn't any "SC rules of racism." There's only what I see. And what I see is a black man, that blames everything on a white man. I see a black man that always defends another black man (Trayvon) solely because they are black. You should be more like Kobe (but not the raping).

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

[89Hen]

men like you

[YoUDeeMan]

You're wrong. You don't deal with it. It's been pointed out to you countless times yet you ignore it. I've called out plenty of people on here for racist or bigot comments. See JSO, for example. There isn't any "SC rules of racism." There's only what I see. And what I see is a black man, that blames everything on a white man. I see a black man that always defends another black man (Trayvon) solely because they are black. You should be more like Kobe (but not the raping).

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

You are still stuck on Trayvon...and yet not a word defending the guy who was recently beaten up by a crowd of racist cowards in front of a crowd of other racist cowards. Because racist men like you won't say anything about that. You know, racist thugs being racist thugs that they are.

Troof.

[CID1990]

I don't know why you guys use more than one sentence to argue with Klean.

Think of an argument with him like a Twitter post. Anything longer than that and he goes into little 2nd grade Kleany mode where he cries and shits himself when the teacher acks him why he can't read straight

[Ibanez]

You're wrong. You don't deal with it. It's been pointed out to you countless times yet you ignore it. I've called out plenty of people on here for racist or bigot comments. See JSO, for example. There isn't any "SC rules of racism." There's only what I see. And what I see is a black man, that blames everything on a white man. I see a black man that always defends another black man (Trayvon) solely because they are black. You should be more like Kobe (but not the raping).

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

[CID1990]

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

That's better.

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[mrklean]

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

What are you stuck on stupid? You really think that a 16 year old boy would try to start shit with a grown azz man. This is what pisses me the fuck off. You never looked a Trayvon as a boy, just a Niqqer!. That's all that you will every see in young black men. I remember when you and the rest of the El Cid rejects were calling him names. He was 16 years old. He should be preparing for Prom, but NOOOO some coward azz had to fuck with him, and shot his azz. I talk to you because you are half way of a man. On day you will have a child. And I hope to God nothing happens to him. I can't even think how the martin family feels. So good ahead. Call him a thug. But ini the end, Zimmerman has to face God for his actions.

[YoUDeeMan]

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

What are you stuck on stupid? You really think that a 16 year old boy would try to start shit with a grown azz man. This is what pisses me the fuck off. You never looked a Trayvon as a boy, just a Niqqer!. That's all that you will every see in young black men. I remember when you and the rest of the El Cid rejects were calling him names. He was 16 years old. He should be preparing for Prom, but NOOOO some coward azz had to fuck with him, and shot his azz. I talk to you because you are half way of a man. On day you will have a child. And I hope to God nothing happens to him. I can't even think how the martin family feels. So good ahead. Call him a thug. But ini the end, Zimmerman has to face God for his actions.

You are an idiot...a racist idiot.

The ONLY reason you are defending Trayvon is because he is (was) black. Actually, he probably still is black because of all the preservatives they put into corpses to make them look good for the viewing...unless he was cremated, and in that case his ashes are probably still black...maybe gray.

klean...16-year old boys don't attack grown men.

Yes, 16 year olds are incapable of violence...and there is some magical line drawn in the air that prevents a 16 year old from attacking an older person.

klean believes that.

No, seriously, klean believes that a 16 year old doesn't have the ability to attack an adult.

Lawdy...klean's ignorance, based solely upon trying to defend a black person, is astounding!

klean...here's your homework: try to see if there is some magical boundary that has prevented a 16 year old from ever attacking an adult. I'm sure you won't be able to find a single incident where a 16 year old attacked an adult.





klean's Gospel...

[CID1990]

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

What are you stuck on stupid? You really think that a 16 year old boy would try to start **** with a grown azz man. This is what pisses me the **** off. You never looked a Trayvon as a boy, just a Niqqer!. That's all that you will every see in young black men. I remember when you and the rest of the El Cid rejects were calling him names. He was 16 years old. He should be preparing for Prom, but NOOOO some coward azz had to **** with him, and shot his azz. I talk to you because you are half way of a man. On day you will have a child. And I hope to God nothing happens to him. I can't even think how the martin family feels. So good ahead. Call him a thug. But ini the end, Zimmerman has to face God for his actions.

You defend Trayvon only because he is black, and he was killed by someone who is not black.

[Ibanez]

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

That's better.

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I'm trying to get my responses to them down to one word. For instance..."fuckhead."

[Ibanez]

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

What are you stuck on stupid? You really think that a 16 year old boy would try to start shit with a grown azz man. This is what pisses me the fuck off. You never looked a Trayvon as a boy, just a Niqqer!. That's all that you will every see in young black men. I remember when you and the rest of the El Cid rejects were calling him names. He was 16 years old. He should be preparing for Prom, but NOOOO some coward azz had to fuck with him, and shot his azz. I talk to you because you are half way of a man. On day you will have a child. And I hope to God nothing happens to him. I can't even think how the martin family feels. So good ahead. Call him a thug. But ini the end, Zimmerman has to face God for his actions.

I never looked at anyone as a "Niqqer" (again, that isn't a word.) Teenagers act out against older people all the time, anyone in law enforcement can tell you that. You act as if Zimmerman was in his 50s. Zimmerman was what, 10 years older? Look at this,
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/22/justice/k ... -assaults/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The victim was about 20 years older than the perp. Young people attack old people. If you don't believe that, then you were probably the dumbestcop ever on duty.

Here are 2 more
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minn-teen-g ... ame-punch/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... 0c5f8.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


I didn't call him any names, I have no right. You seem to ignore the fact that I have said, on many occasions, that Zimmerman should not have followed him. We have physical proof that Trayvon did not have defensive wounds (that means, no wounds suggesting he was attacked).

I think, and this is my opinion, that the black community will always side with a black victim, facts be damned. Look at this objectively. You really need to breath, relax and look at this like an adult. Trayvon fit a description of a person that was breaking into homes, Zimmerman was on watch but should have not followed. Zimmerman probably spooked Trayvon, but instead of running away, Trayvon acted like teenagers act and started a fight. Zimmerman is guilty of circumstances that led to Trayvons death. It's most likely manslaughter than murder.

[Ibanez]

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

What are you stuck on stupid?

You have a serious bias, you instantly call people racist because they are white and/or disagree with you. I'm surprised you've had moderate success in business, being how ignorant and immature you are.


PS, the correct way to write that sentence would have been, "What, are you stupid?" or " What? Are you stupid?"

[clenz]

He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?

No photos. Never heard or read about this story before...but im just gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Mr. Fleming is black.

it's the only reason kleanex gives a damn

Spoiler: show

sorry if that was earlier, I stopped reading here...has dal chimed in yet?

[Chizzang]

You are an idiot...a racist idiot.

The ONLY reason you are defending Trayvon is because he is (was) black. Actually, he probably still is black because of all the preservatives they put into corpses to make them look good for the viewing...unless he was cremated, and in that case his ashes are probably still black...maybe gray.

klean...16-year old boys don't attack grown men.

Yes, 16 year olds are incapable of violence...and there is some magical line drawn in the air that prevents a 16 year old from attacking an older person.

klean believes that.

No, seriously, klean believes that a 16 year old doesn't have the ability to attack an adult.

Lawdy...klean's ignorance, based solely upon trying to defend a black person, is astounding!

klean...here's your homework: try to see if there is some magical boundary that has prevented a 16 year old from ever attacking an adult. I'm sure you won't be able to find a single incident where a 16 year old attacked an adult.





klean's Gospel...

Mr. Cluckster Dude... are you off your medication?
Ease off the ROLF button okay buddy - everything is going to be okay

[YoUDeeMan]

Mr. Cluckster Dude... are you off your medication?
Ease off the ROLF button okay buddy - everything is going to be okay

If I (or my posts) were on medication, you should be fine with that, right?

And what do you have against a good laugh? Seems to me that the world needs more laughter and fewer people judging others about their laughter.

Often, klean's posts are too black and white...not enough red, yellow, or even a soft eggshell color, and that leads to posts that are ridiculously rigid and incapable of laughing at themselves. Someone has got to make up for that lack of laughter, and I am such an unselfish, giving person that I have volunteered to be that someone. Think of me as a CS Peace Corp volunteer.

Besides, you should be ashamed of yourself for interfering with and judging an intervention.

[EWURanger]

Trayvon was a 16 year old killed by a coward. You damn right Ill defend him. Because men like you wont.

How can you possibly defend someone when you don't know all the facts? Just admit that you defended him because he was black. I don't defend Zimmerman, btw. He should have been mature and not followed someone.

Because it's an emotional issue. Doesn't matter what the facts are...