Your logic leaves something, check that everything, to be desired.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:They are not free you have to buy one of their cars to use them, if you have another brand of car they are not free and lets face it, Tesla wont keep them free forever, its just an incentive to get people to buy their cars.Grizalltheway wrote:
Tesla is also building a network of (free) solar powered charging stations. But don't let the facts get in your way, you seldom do.
How long before you guys start complaining about battery disposal and the added stress on an already maxed out national electrical grid?
Fact that...... mutha fu*ker
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The charging stations have solar panels but looking at the size of them there's no way all the charging comes strictly from solar. As the car becomes more popular and demand increases they will likely have to start charging for use. And that will probably run them afoul of laws that restrict the resale of electricity that many states have, kind of like the dealership issues they are having in many states right now.Grizalltheway wrote:Tesla is also building a network of (free) solar powered charging stations. But don't let the facts get in your way, you seldom do.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Really?
Do you have any idea how much your electric bill will go up at your home, not to mention the gouging sodomy that will take place out on the road when you NEED to recharge?
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The dealership issues are related to crony capitalism.HI54UNI wrote:The charging stations have solar panels but looking at the size of them there's no way all the charging comes strictly from solar. As the car becomes more popular and demand increases they will likely have to start charging for use. And that will probably run them afoul of laws that restrict the resale of electricity that many states have, kind of like the dealership issues they are having in many states right now.Grizalltheway wrote:
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Another lib tap out.......imagine that, maybe you need a government program to help you win debates on message boards. You know, like a midnight basketball program for unathletic computer nerds?Grizalltheway wrote:Your logic leaves something, check that everything, to be desired.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
They are not free you have to buy one of their cars to use them, if you have another brand of car they are not free and lets face it, Tesla wont keep them free forever, its just an incentive to get people to buy their cars.
How long before you guys start complaining about battery disposal and the added stress on an already maxed out national electrical grid?
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Good idea, ALPACAJIZZ!ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Another lib tap out.......imagine that, maybe you need a government program to help you win debates on message boards. You know, like a midnight basketball program for unathletic computer nerds?Grizalltheway wrote:
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Dealerships.kalm wrote:The dealership issues are related to crony capitalism.HI54UNI wrote:
The charging stations have solar panels but looking at the size of them there's no way all the charging comes strictly from solar. As the car becomes more popular and demand increases they will likely have to start charging for use. And that will probably run them afoul of laws that restrict the resale of electricity that many states have, kind of like the dealership issues they are having in many states right now.
They subject us to poorly made, ridiculous advertisements involving ugly family members...while trying to steal your wallet. Then they cry to their local in-the-pocket politician that the 'Merican way of buying cars is being threatened and violated by some uppity Tesla (and Daewoo before that) demon that will crash freedom and democracy.
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I'll bet the vast majority of the owners are "free market" types too.Cluck U wrote:Dealerships.kalm wrote:
The dealership issues are related to crony capitalism.![]()
They subject us to poorly made, ridiculous advertisements involving ugly family members...while trying to steal your wallet. Then they cry to their local in-the-pocket politician that the 'Merican way of buying cars is being threatened and violated by some uppity Tesla (and Daewoo before that) demon that will crash freedom and democracy.
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Unathletic?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Another lib tap out.......imagine that, maybe you need a government program to help you win debates on message boards. You know, like a midnight basketball program for unathletic computer nerds?Grizalltheway wrote:
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You are on, I am currently trying to schedule Husky stadium for the event, prepare to be decathlated.Grizalltheway wrote:Unathletic?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Another lib tap out.......imagine that, maybe you need a government program to help you win debates on message boards. You know, like a midnight basketball program for unathletic computer nerds?I'll take on your fat, middle aged ass in any athletic endeavor you want. Except for cheeseburger eating, you're definitely the Wayne Gretzky of that.

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Re: It there a "Tesla is Motor Trend Car of the Year" thread
sort of like the majority of Colorado private school types are liberals ehkalm wrote:I'll bet the vast majority of the owners are "free market" types too.Cluck U wrote:
Dealerships.![]()
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Re: It there a "Tesla is Motor Trend Car of the Year" thread
Tesla has a fuel cost comparison at http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#savings" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. You may have to look around for it. But it comes out to saying that the cost for "fuel" is about 1/5 of that you would incur with a sedan that gets 22 mpg. That's at current average gasoline and electricity costs. So if they're reasonably accurate it's along the lines of getting 100 mpg.
When I was in the field the day before yesterday we were talking about one of the guys on the boat. He lives in Baton Rouge, LA, and has to commute to Thibodaux, LA, every day. His situation is that he married a woman who has kids and the father is involved and bottom line means he can't move. So he has a commute of about 140 miles round trip per day. He said it's costing him $600 per month in gas and even if you have a car that gets 30 mpg it'd work out to about $340 per month based on current average cost of gasoline in Louisiana.
The big problem, to me, is still the range. They say 300 miles. But there are indications that the range varies with temperature. There aren't a bunch of "rapid charge" stations out there right now. And even if there were "rapid charge" means about 30 minutes.
That' means the Tesla is still pretty much a "second car" kind of thing for most people. If you are just going to have one vehicle you can't have one that has a 300 mile range on a charge and less than that under less than optimum temperature conditions.
But, hey, when I started college in the 1970s Texas Instruments LED calculators cost like $70 in 1976 dollars. That's about $288 in today's money and they couldn't do anything close to what one can do now with a calculator one can buy now for maybe $10 at Wal Mart.
When I was in the field the day before yesterday we were talking about one of the guys on the boat. He lives in Baton Rouge, LA, and has to commute to Thibodaux, LA, every day. His situation is that he married a woman who has kids and the father is involved and bottom line means he can't move. So he has a commute of about 140 miles round trip per day. He said it's costing him $600 per month in gas and even if you have a car that gets 30 mpg it'd work out to about $340 per month based on current average cost of gasoline in Louisiana.
The big problem, to me, is still the range. They say 300 miles. But there are indications that the range varies with temperature. There aren't a bunch of "rapid charge" stations out there right now. And even if there were "rapid charge" means about 30 minutes.
That' means the Tesla is still pretty much a "second car" kind of thing for most people. If you are just going to have one vehicle you can't have one that has a 300 mile range on a charge and less than that under less than optimum temperature conditions.
But, hey, when I started college in the 1970s Texas Instruments LED calculators cost like $70 in 1976 dollars. That's about $288 in today's money and they couldn't do anything close to what one can do now with a calculator one can buy now for maybe $10 at Wal Mart.
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Back then no self respecting science/engineering type would be caught dead with a TI or any other calculator with an "=" sign .....JohnStOnge wrote:Tesla has a fuel cost comparison at http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#savings" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. You may have to look around for it. But it comes out to saying that the cost for "fuel" is about 1/5 of that you would incur with a sedan that gets 22 mpg. That's at current average gasoline and electricity costs. So if they're reasonably accurate it's along the lines of getting 100 mpg.
When I was in the field the day before yesterday we were talking about one of the guys on the boat. He lives in Baton Rouge, LA, and has to commute to Thibodaux, LA, every day. His situation is that he married a woman who has kids and the father is involved and bottom line means he can't move. So he has a commute of about 140 miles round trip per day. He said it's costing him $600 per month in gas and even if you have a car that gets 30 mpg it'd work out to about $340 per month based on current average cost of gasoline in Louisiana.
The big problem, to me, is still the range. They say 300 miles. But there are indications that the range varies with temperature. There aren't a bunch of "rapid charge" stations out there right now. And even if there were "rapid charge" means about 30 minutes.
That' means the Tesla is still pretty much a "second car" kind of thing for most people. If you are just going to have one vehicle you can't have one that has a 300 mile range on a charge and less than that under less than optimum temperature conditions.
But, hey, when I started college in the 1970s Texas Instruments LED calculators cost like $70 in 1976 dollars. That's about $288 in today's money and they couldn't do anything close to what one can do now with a calculator one can buy now for maybe $10 at Wal Mart.
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It was charter schools...and no.CID1990 wrote:sort of like the majority of Colorado private school types are liberals ehkalm wrote:
I'll bet the vast majority of the owners are "free market" types too.
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the unsubstantiated, unsourced hyperbolic declaration was the focus herekalm wrote:It was charter schools...and no.CID1990 wrote:
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houndawg wrote:Back then no self respecting science/engineering type would be caught dead with a TI or any other calculator with an "=" sign .....JohnStOnge wrote:Tesla has a fuel cost comparison at http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#savings" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. You may have to look around for it. But it comes out to saying that the cost for "fuel" is about 1/5 of that you would incur with a sedan that gets 22 mpg. That's at current average gasoline and electricity costs. So if they're reasonably accurate it's along the lines of getting 100 mpg.
When I was in the field the day before yesterday we were talking about one of the guys on the boat. He lives in Baton Rouge, LA, and has to commute to Thibodaux, LA, every day. His situation is that he married a woman who has kids and the father is involved and bottom line means he can't move. So he has a commute of about 140 miles round trip per day. He said it's costing him $600 per month in gas and even if you have a car that gets 30 mpg it'd work out to about $340 per month based on current average cost of gasoline in Louisiana.
The big problem, to me, is still the range. They say 300 miles. But there are indications that the range varies with temperature. There aren't a bunch of "rapid charge" stations out there right now. And even if there were "rapid charge" means about 30 minutes.
That' means the Tesla is still pretty much a "second car" kind of thing for most people. If you are just going to have one vehicle you can't have one that has a 300 mile range on a charge and less than that under less than optimum temperature conditions.
But, hey, when I started college in the 1970s Texas Instruments LED calculators cost like $70 in 1976 dollars. That's about $288 in today's money and they couldn't do anything close to what one can do now with a calculator one can buy now for maybe $10 at Wal Mart.
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I apologize. I'm sure a fair amount of them are liberals.CID1990 wrote:the unsubstantiated, unsourced hyperbolic declaration was the focus herekalm wrote:
It was charter schools...and no.
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Reverse Polish NotationAZGrizFan wrote:houndawg wrote:
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They'd have to be to get the school more than 10% full.kalm wrote:I apologize. I'm sure a fair amount of them are liberals.CID1990 wrote:
the unsubstantiated, unsourced hyperbolic declaration was the focus here
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houndawg wrote:Reverse Polish NotationAZGrizFan wrote:
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You should read up on Charter schools, their origin, the money that is backing them, and the whole Common Core money pit/opportunity. It would make you proud to be a capitalist.kalm wrote:It was charter schools...and no.CID1990 wrote:
sort of like the majority of Colorado private school types are liberals eh
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My 12C never more than an arm's length away.houndawg wrote:Reverse Polish NotationAZGrizFan wrote:
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My 30 year old 15C is still going strong. Paid $78 for it in 1984 and still haven't used everything it can do. Don't seem to ever need hyperbolic trig functions in the daily grind.89Hen wrote:My 12C never more than an arm's length away.houndawg wrote:
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How so?89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
It was charter schools...and no.CID FTW


