Angry, Murdering, God

[CID1990]

Murdering children in the bible:

The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.

yeah that Judaism is a bitch man

[D1B]

Murdering children in the bible:

yeah that Judaism is a bitch man

Classic apologist line - "that's the OLD testament"

"CID" in latin is "JSO"

[SeattleGriz]

Tell us more, SG. How does the bible define murder?

Well first of all he'd have to do what over 90% of Christians have never done
and that's actually read the Bible



Pelosi we don't know what's in this Bill but f*ck it lets pass it

American Christian
I don't know whats in this book but I believe it

Well count me in the 10% for I have read it through twice. Why do you think I believe in free will in regards to the bible. You can't help but realize the book teaches you about choices and their consequences.

[SeattleGriz]

Knew that dumb fucker SG would avoid this.

Enlighten us SG. Still waiting.

Fuck you. I was at work. Don't you see that I don't post during the day?

Besides, I already explained it to you. But to hash it over briefly, murder is when you kill with deliberate malice. Killing has a reason attached with it (protecting yourself of family).

You need more information, simply check out some of the Biblical scholars that regularly hand your atheist friends their asses in debates.

By the way, where were the atheist "works group" to help out the atheist lady down the street from me the other day?

[Chizzang]

Enlighten us SG. Still waiting.

Fuck you. I was at work. Don't you see that I don't post during the day?

Besides, I already explained it to you. But to hash it over briefly, murder is when you kill with deliberate malice. Killing has a reason attached with it (protecting yourself of family).

You need more information, simply check out some of the Biblical scholars that regularly hand your atheist friends their asses in debates.

By the way, where were the atheist "works group" to help out the atheist lady down the street from me the other day?

Biblical Scholars...

[SeattleGriz]

Fuck you. I was at work. Don't you see that I don't post during the day?

Besides, I already explained it to you. But to hash it over briefly, murder is when you kill with deliberate malice. Killing has a reason attached with it (protecting yourself of family).

You need more information, simply check out some of the Biblical scholars that regularly hand your atheist friends their asses in debates.

By the way, where were the atheist "works group" to help out the atheist lady down the street from me the other day?

Biblical Scholars...

I see you rate them right up there with Anthropology Professors!

[JoltinJoe]

**** you. I was at work. Don't you see that I don't post during the day?

Besides, I already explained it to you. But to hash it over briefly, murder is when you kill with deliberate malice. Killing has a reason attached with it (protecting yourself of family).

You need more information, simply check out some of the Biblical scholars that regularly hand your atheist friends their asses in debates.

By the way, where were the atheist "works group" to help out the atheist lady down the street from me the other day?

Biblical Scholars...

Internet scholars ....

[D1B]

Enlighten us SG. Still waiting.

Fuck you. I was at work. Don't you see that I don't post during the day?

Besides, I already explained it to you. But to hash it over briefly, murder is when you kill with deliberate malice. Killing has a reason attached with it (protecting yourself of family).

You need more information, simply check out some of the Biblical scholars that regularly hand your atheist friends their asses in debates.

By the way, where were the atheist "works group" to help out the atheist lady down the street from me the other day?

Pretty weak. So who decides if a kill is self defense or a murder was committed with "deliberate malice?"

[D1B]

Biblical Scholars...

Internet scholars ....

Fordum theologians....

[JoltinJoe]

Internet scholars ....

Fordum theologians....

UNI graduates.

[D1B]

Fordum theologians....

UNI graduates.

Well, I annihilated a top notch lawyer in you today. I'm pumped. I think I'm gonna enroll in Eastern Illinois Law.

[JoltinJoe]

UNI graduates.

Well, I annihilated a top notch lawyer in you today. I'm pumped. I think I'm gonna enroll in Eastern Illinois Law.

Instead of enrolling in law school, you should check into a mental health clinic and deal with your problems with self-delusion.

[D1B]

Well, I annihilated a top notch lawyer in you today. I'm pumped. I think I'm gonna enroll in Eastern Illinois Law.

Instead of enrolling in law school, you should check into a mental health clinic and deal with your problems with self-delusion.

You're reeling. Good luck getting some sleep tonight.

Here's some help. Count mustard seeds

[JoltinJoe]

Instead of enrolling in law school, you should check into a mental health clinic and deal with your problems with self-delusion.

You're reeling. Good luck getting some sleep tonight.

Here's some help. Count mustard seeds

Dude, I'm out celebrating the beat down I gave you today.

I'm sorry, but you asked for it. Get well soon. I'm sending flowers to your hospital.

[CID1990]

yeah that Judaism is a bitch man

Classic apologist line - "that's the OLD testament"

"CID" in latin is "JSO"

well, it IS the old testament

as full of crap as every other semitic text from that shithole of a region for the last 4000 years

i can see fundies talking it seriously, but most people agree that jesus offered a new path, different from the hellfire and brimstone in the old testament

your criticisms of christianity are the same as what you defended in Maher- that christianity is mumbo jumbo and the faithful are deluded

but you have also attributed the excesses of christianity to the corruption of the religion by men.

You cant have it both ways.

Either it is all falsehood, or, there really was a jesus (probably not the son of the same "god" who turned people into salt pillars) who taught that love and respect for other human beings was what his "new deal" was all about.

what the church did hundreds of years later is not an indictment of the original message, which i dont think anyone can disagree with regardless of whether you believe it came from a simple man, or a god

[D1B]

You're reeling. Good luck getting some sleep tonight.

Here's some help. Count mustard seeds

Dude, I'm out celebrating the beat down I gave you today.

I'm sorry, but you asked for it. Get well soon. I'm sending flowers to your hospital.

One mustard seed, two mustard seed....

[D1B]

Classic apologist line - "that's the OLD testament"

"CID" in latin is "JSO"

well, it IS the old testament

as full of crap as every other semitic text from that shithole of a region for the last 4000 years

i can see fundies talking it seriously, but most people agree that jesus offered a new path, different from the hellfire and brimstone in the old testament

your criticisms of christianity are the same as what you defended in Maher- that christianity is mumbo jumbo and the faithful are deluded

but you have also attributed the excesses of christianity to the corruption of the religion by men.

You cant have it both ways.

Either it is all falsehood, or, there really was a jesus (probably not the son of the same "god" who turned people into salt pillars) who taught that love and respect for other human beings was what his "new deal" was all about.

what the church did hundreds of years later is not an indictment of the original message, which i dont think anyone can disagree with regardless of whether you believe it came from a simple man, or a god

Well, the love and respect thing is great, if he would have stopped there. His message is that, but worship him or you're fucked. This fact alone is proof that Jesus is a product of politicians seeking a way to control people.

[CID1990]

well, it IS the old testament

as full of crap as every other semitic text from that shithole of a region for the last 4000 years

i can see fundies talking it seriously, but most people agree that jesus offered a new path, different from the hellfire and brimstone in the old testament

your criticisms of christianity are the same as what you defended in Maher- that christianity is mumbo jumbo and the faithful are deluded

but you have also attributed the excesses of christianity to the corruption of the religion by men.

You cant have it both ways.

Either it is all falsehood, or, there really was a jesus (probably not the son of the same "god" who turned people into salt pillars) who taught that love and respect for other human beings was what his "new deal" was all about.

what the church did hundreds of years later is not an indictment of the original message, which i dont think anyone can disagree with regardless of whether you believe it came from a simple man, or a god

Well, the love and respect thing is great, if he would have stopped there. His message is that, but worship him or you're ****. This fact alone is proof that Jesus is a product of politicians seeking a way to control people.

you dont know if he stopped there or not

but you are saying that his message continued on to say worship him or else and that this benefits the politicians-

so you have basically asserted that the admirable parts of jesus' message were put forward by jesus, and the ugly parts were created by politicians

so we are past the assumption that jesus was a real dude and on to the idea that his message was corrupted by the church

[D1B]

Well, the love and respect thing is great, if he would have stopped there. His message is that, but worship him or you're ****. This fact alone is proof that Jesus is a product of politicians seeking a way to control people.

you dont know if he stopped there or not

but you are saying that his message continued on to say worship him or else and that this benefits the politicians-

so you have basically asserted that the admirable parts of jesus' message were put forward by jesus, and the ugly parts were created by politicia
It see
so we are past the assumption that jesus was a real dude and on to the idea that his message was corrupted by the church

Uh, no, JSO.

Thought you read the NT?

[SeattleGriz]

you dont know if he stopped there or not

but you are saying that his message continued on to say worship him or else and that this benefits the politicians-

so you have basically asserted that the admirable parts of jesus' message were put forward by jesus, and the ugly parts were created by politicia
It see
so we are past the assumption that jesus was a real dude and on to the idea that his message was corrupted by the church

Uh, no, JSO.

Thought you read the NT?

D1Bs weak reply kills the thread again. Cmon man, we all can't do our part in this thread to have you drop the ball. TWO HANDS!

[JohnStOnge]

Hey D, on what basis do you say that all that Old Testament stuff you posted is wrong?

[houndawg]

Hey D, on what basis do you say that all that Old Testament stuff you posted is wrong?

No way a guy Moses age could have carried those stone tablets all the way down the mountain...

[kalm]

Hey D, on what basis do you say that all that Old Testament stuff you posted is wrong?

What's right about it?

[JohnStOnge]

No way a guy Moses age could have carried those stone tablets all the way down the mountain...

No no...not "inaccurate." "Wrong." As in "Morally Wrong."

[kalm]

No way a guy Moses age could have carried those stone tablets all the way down the mountain...

No no...not "inaccurate." "Wrong." As in "Morally Wrong."

Start by googling "an open letter to Dr. Laura" and move on from there.