Seahawks08 wrote:Marquette has been backsliding for years now.
Butler is going to be a bottom half team but will rack up winds with a weak ooc going forward
Xavier...tbd
Providence...won the tourney title this year bit how much do you really trust them?
Depaul.....yeah...
Marquette has not been backsliding for years. They were 26-9 last year and 27-8 the year before. And that was with the old Big East.
Butler - I agree
Xavier - I agree
Providence - Need to see how they do without Cotton
Depaul - should get rid of their program
St Johns - promising young players. Need to see how they turn out.
Gtown - rebuilding
Creighton - wait and see
Nova - good to go for the foreseeable future
Seton Hall - meh
Backslide may have been too strong for Marquette but they just don't strike me as a "power" anymore. They were 17-15 this season and Jamil Wilson, Chris Otule, Jake Thomas and Davante Gardner aren't going to be easy to replace. I don't know much about their younger playes . Between those 4 players that is 3,300 of Marquettes 6600 minutes this past season, 436 of 800 FG makes, 936 of 1800 attempts, 101 of 152 3s made, 286 of 480 attempted threes (meaning the rest of the team went 51-194-26%), 316 of 555 FT makes, 453 of 800 FT attempts, 600 of 1100 rebounds, 68 of 100 blocks, 1300 of 2300 points. Now...maybe the underclassmen have more talent and can easily double their production - I have no idea. They strike me much like Creighton moving forward though. I remember when Marquette had household names year after year - they haven't had that for awhile.
Butler - we agree they pulled one of the biggest coups of all of conference realignment to get out of the Horizon and align itself in the A10/Big East. I think going forward they will wish they were back in the A10 except having the "iconic" Big East logo on their court
Xavier - Wait and see...they could easily move up but I see them staying stationary for the most part.
DePaul - yeah...nothing needs to be said.
St. Johns - don't they always have promising players? Doesn't the EC(b) hype machine try to build them up every single year...yet they've made just 1 tournament in the last decade and are a .500 team over that time. Is it a coincidence that there best season comes after UCONN, Louisville, Pitt, and Cincinnati leave the conference OR would they have had that same record this year playing those teams instead of multiple games against Seton Hall, DaPaul (Who they lost too), and Butler...also look at the OOC schedule (RPIs of 204, 166, 293, 337, 158, 227, 240, 129, 268 and 114 [which was a loss])...I wish UNI would play that kind of OOC.
Seton Hall - somewhere between DePaul and Buter, IMO
Georgetown - the term backslide and living off of a reputation older than any of the players on the roster is much more fitting here. People out east don't want to here this (and don't like too as I discovered on AGS) but Georgetown doesn't have half the name you out east believe it does nationally.
I think the BE will continue to be a pretty good conference. However, the B12, B10, ACC, PAC12, SEC will all continue/move a head of it and the A10 and MWC will be right there with it for RPI rating - though we've learned that RPI can be very easily manipulated by the MWC.
It also has yet to be seen how recruiting for the new BE might be affected. No longer are you on CBS all of the time...no longer do you have the major tournament in NYC (with the ACC coming in and the A10 showing you up in Brooklyn)...No longer do you have teams like Syracuse, UCONN, Louisville (who I realize is more recent), Pitt, Notre Dame and Cinci (Also more recent) to carry the top half of the league every single year with national names/fanbases and have them drive recruiting. They are now in the ACC (4 of them) with the other two in the works of the ACC/B12/B10 depending how big they want to get. Recruiting may not be influenced at all but that is yet to be seen.
I realize vutomcat thinks I can't carry a conversation but he thinks that because I'm not bowing down to the new big east like he wants and he doesn't want to put any effort into actually backing his position up.
