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CID1990 wrote:Cool!

It's come to this

Criticize professional sports = racist

What should bother people from both sides is that somehow we should even care that this guy said it. The right does it too whenever some leftist makes a goofy comment about conservative bimbos and Uncle Toms

We have way too much time on our oversensitive hands
I blame twitter.
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Take your poverty excuse and stick it straight up your ass.

Total cop out and if you are even close to being good at math you would discern its completely wrong. You may be able to get away with that tap out while talking to liberals who want to "feel good" about helping people make excuses, but in the real world crime is crime and there are no economic reasons why this happens its a culture thing. :dunce:
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ASUG8 wrote:If you really want to talk about things being a "little bit" disproportionate in the world of professional sports, check out the NBA/NFL demographic makeup vs. US average:
NFL - 66.3% Black, .7% Latino, 30.1% White

http://www.tidesport.org/RGRC/2013/2013_NFL_RGRC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NBA - 78% Black, 4% Latino, 17% White


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e ... in_the_NBA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

US - 12.6% Black, 16.3% Latino, 72.4% White

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#Population" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You forgot this one:

White House - 50% White, 50% Black
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Cool!

It's come to this

Criticize professional sports = racist

What should bother people from both sides is that somehow we should even care that this guy said it. The right does it too whenever some leftist makes a goofy comment about conservative bimbos and Uncle Toms

We have way too much time on our oversensitive hands
I blame twitter.
I blame Black Twitter.

http://news.msn.com/science-technology/ ... nd-offline" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Catchy hashtags give clues that the tweeting in question is a Black Twitter thing.

"It's kind of like the black table in the lunchroom, sort of, where people with like interests and experiences, and ways of talking and communication, lump together and talk among themselves," said Tracy Clayton, a blogger and editor at Buzzfeed known on Twitter as @brokeymcpoverty.

"Black Twitter brings the fullness of black humanity into the social network and that is why it has become so fascinating," said Kimberly C. Ellis, who has a doctorate in American and Africana Studies, tweets as @drgoddess and is studying Black Twitter for her upcoming book, "The Bombastic Brilliance of Black Twitter."

According to a Pew Research Center report, while similar numbers of blacks and whites use the Internet — 80 percent and 87 percent, respectively — 22 percent of those blacks who were online used Twitter in 2013, compared with 16 percent of online whites."


:suspicious: "It's kind of like the black table in the lunchroom?" :ohno:



All those free phones and their free phone plans are being put to good use. :ohno:
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So the USA and Japan bring technology to the table, Germany makes fine automobiles, Italy makes great motorcycles and sports cars.....Canadians give us hockey, curling and oil

Blacks give us the #hashtag

Way to bring it!
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#greatadditiontotheworld

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So now Twitter isn't good enough for blacks? So they segregate themselves on the interweb?

#racistackbastards

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#blackhashtagmonth

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I'm fine with the Black Twitter thing and all the other things such that Blacks kind of maintain the identify of their subculture or subcultures or whatever and see a "commonality" in being Black while living the Black experience.

I just wish Whites wouldn't be told it's not acceptable to do the same sort of thing.

Speaking of that kind of double standard typing that reminded me of the general principal and how it applies to the thread topic:

I guarantee you that if some Black politician had made some similar Twitter comment based on a "White Stereotype" about the members of some profession or group that was overwhelmingly White nobody would be making a big deal about it. Mainstream media wouldn't be calling him or her a racist. Odds are better than even we would not even have heard it happened. So on and so forth.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I'm fine with the Black Twitter thing and all the other things such that Blacks kind of maintain the identify of their subculture or subcultures or whatever and see a "commonality" in being Black while living the Black experience.

I just wish Whites wouldn't be told it's not acceptable to do the same sort of thing.

Speaking of that kind of double standard typing that reminded me of the general principal and how it applies to the thread topic:

I guarantee you that if some Black politician had made some similar Twitter comment based on a "White Stereotype" about the members of some profession or group that was overwhelmingly White nobody would be making a big deal about it. Mainstream media wouldn't be calling him or her a racist. Odds are better than even we would not even have heard it happened. So on and so forth.

Check out he numbers that link Crime with Poverty. Go to any Uniform Crime index. Take a look at other countries and the Crime/Poverty level.
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mrklean wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:I'm fine with the Black Twitter thing and all the other things such that Blacks kind of maintain the identify of their subculture or subcultures or whatever and see a "commonality" in being Black while living the Black experience.

I just wish Whites wouldn't be told it's not acceptable to do the same sort of thing.

Speaking of that kind of double standard typing that reminded me of the general principal and how it applies to the thread topic:

I guarantee you that if some Black politician had made some similar Twitter comment based on a "White Stereotype" about the members of some profession or group that was overwhelmingly White nobody would be making a big deal about it. Mainstream media wouldn't be calling him or her a racist. Odds are better than even we would not even have heard it happened. So on and so forth.

Check out he numbers that link Crime with Poverty. Go to any Uniform Crime index. Take a look at other countries and the Crime/Poverty level.
You weren't paying attention to CID's posts, were you? :suspicious:
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So its come full circle.......60 years ago we gave blacks their own bathrooms, drinking fountains and seats on busses. That wasn't good enough, they wanted equality, they wanted to be part of America and fought for the "right" to use the same facilities as whites.........now thats not good enough they want their own month, own Twitter, own canvas.

Jesus.....make up your mind. With the exception being my internet broth a... you guys are fickle bastards.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So its come full circle.......60 years ago we gave blacks their own bathrooms, drinking fountains and seats on busses. That wasn't good enough, they wanted equality, they wanted to be part of America and fought for the "right" to use the same facilities as whites.........now thats not good enough they want their own month, own Twitter, own canvas.

Jesus.....make up your mind. With the exception being my internet broth a... you guys are fickle bastards.
Almost, but not quite. When they insist that we call them n******s; then it's come full circle.
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Check out he numbers that link Crime with Poverty. Go to any Uniform Crime index. Take a look at other countries and the Crime/Poverty level.
I don't doubt that there is an association between poverty and violent crime at all. Just saying it may not account for ALL of the difference between Blacks and Whites in this country. Like that first paper I linked above (http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~roos/Course ... ssp802.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). The author concluded that the difference between non Hispanic White and Latino homicide rates could be accounted for by the factors she looked at. In fact she even said the rate for Hispanics is a little lower than that of non Hispanic Whites once the factors are taken into account. Poverty was one of those factors. But she concluded that the factors, including poverty, could only account for about half (47%) of the difference between non Hispanic White and Black homicide rates.

If you look at the top of Journal page 367 you can see her speculation about why that is so. For example:
Although large numbers of Latinos and blacks live in extremely disadvantaged neighborhoods, I suspect that the current models of homicide variation may not completely capture the unique situation faced by black Americans in terms of racial discrimination.
To me that kind of thought process is very common. When efforts to "control" for measurable variables fail to explain differences between Blacks and Whites, the investigators typically invoke the idea of "The history of institutionalized racism in the United States" or something like that.

To me it's an example of what I see as egalitarian bias permeating research in the social, educational, and psychiatric/psychological sciences. They start off with an "equality" assumption and see the world through that prism. Like the lady who made that quote above had absolutely no quantitative basis for saying what she said. She presented no evidence at all for the "I suspect" thing. It's just that she failed to "explain" the difference with the measurable factors she could come up with so she assumed there has to be some other environmental explanation of the remaining portion of the difference. She will not entertain the possibility of innate nature as a factor.

Don't get me wrong. Her suspicion could be absolutely correct. But the point is that she's biased. Like I have no problem in saying that it's quite possible that if we could somehow completely equalize the environments the difference would be eliminated. But there's no way SHE would say "It's possible that some of the difference is just innate difference associated with the differences in ancestry between the groups." Kind of like saying Labradors just innately tend to like getting into water more than Chihuahuas do. Not in a MILLION years would she say that. But I would. I'm open to all possibilities. I don't start off with the egalitarian assumption and try to make everything fit it.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So its come full circle.......60 years ago we gave blacks their own bathrooms, drinking fountains and seats on busses. That wasn't good enough, they wanted equality, they wanted to be part of America and fought for the "right" to use the same facilities as whites.........now thats not good enough they want their own month, own Twitter, own canvas.

Jesus.....make up your mind. With the exception being my internet broth a... you guys are fickle bastards.
Almost, but not quite. When they insist that we call them n******s; then it's come full circle.
True.

Just another segregation tactic......we can use that word....you can't.

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ASUG8 wrote:If you really want to talk about things being a "little bit" disproportionate in the world of professional sports, check out the NBA/NFL demographic makeup vs. US average:
NFL - 66.3% Black, .7% Latino, 30.1% White

http://www.tidesport.org/RGRC/2013/2013_NFL_RGRC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NBA - 78% Black, 4% Latino, 17% White


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e ... in_the_NBA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

US - 12.6% Black, 16.3% Latino, 72.4% White

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#Population" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 72.4% white includes Latino.

US Census has it:
63% White alone, not Hispanic or Latino
16.9% Hispanic or Latino
13.1% black
5.1% Asian
2.4% 2 or more races
1.2% American Indian
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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St. Wronge,
You're diseased beyond cure.....

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BDKJMU wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:If you really want to talk about things being a "little bit" disproportionate in the world of professional sports, check out the NBA/NFL demographic makeup vs. US average:
The 72.4% white includes Latino.

US Census has it:
63% White alone, not Hispanic or Latino
16.9% Hispanic or Latino
13.1% black
5.1% Asian
2.4% 2 or more races
1.2% American Indian
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does that really change the picture that dramatically?

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CID1990 wrote:Cool!

It's come to this

Criticize professional sports = racist

What should bother people from both sides is that somehow we should even care that this guy said it. The right does it too whenever some leftist makes a goofy comment about conservative bimbos and Uncle Toms

We have way too much time on our oversensitive hands

This shit? All Reagan's fault.

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how many people called Ray Lewis a racist for saying the exact same shit during the NFL lockout?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/2 ... 65371.html
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