Does this concern anybody?There have been rather a lot, to say the least, of firings, demotions, relievings and disciplinings of hundreds of officers in our military under this present regime. The grounds range from “leaving blast doors on nukes open” to “loss of confidence in command ability” to “mishandling of funds” to “inappropriate relationships” to “gambling with counterfeit chips” to “inappropriate behavior” to “low morale in troops commanded” to you-name-it-you-got-it…and, now you’re gonna’ get it!
Listed below are some of the various commanders, vice-commanders, etc. who have been relieved, fired, forced into early retirement and otherwise let go of…or, gotten rid of…depending on how one chooses to interpret all this. Grand Total thus far: 197 (Mostly Colonel and above. 127 AF majors included…they all occurred at one time, apparently). Also, provided are 11 links to various articles about said officers and the various ends of their military careers.
This does not include any of the stories about the pressure or attacks, if you will, made on those of all ranks, high and low, done by this regime or their “agents” and based on religious grounds or their stances on traditional marriage or statements or actions that have been deemed offensive to Islam…beliefs held by many who have been persecuted, if not out-right prosecuted, for said religious and/or traditional belief stances.
This is offered not as proof of any attempt to purge our military of those deemed un-fit by this present regime. It is simply offered as a PARTIAL listing of what has happened so far under the present “C-i-C.” Please note “PARTIAL.” This writer does not claim this list is complete.
It remains to be seen if more “disciplinary actions” are taken or are warranted. I simply find myself asking, as the picture below asks:
What Is Happening to Our Military?! ~cj
Grand Total: 197 Officers
Year: 2013 (9, so far).
1. Marine Col. Daren Margolin – Quantico – Oct. 18, 2013. Was in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion.
2. Marine Major General C.M.M. Gurganus – Oct. 12, 2013. Commander Regional Command Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward) in Afghanistan.
3. AF Major Gen. Michael Carey – Oct. 8, 2013. 2-star commander of 20th Air Force. 3 wings of ICBMs. 450 nukes. Covered 3 AF bases across nation.
4. Navy Vice-Admiral Tim Guardina – Oct. 9, 2013. 3-star vice-commander all US nuclear forces (land/air/sea). Relieved of command. Demoted in rank to 2-stars.
5. Marine Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant – September 2013. Director of strategic planning and policy for U.S. Pacific Command and commander of the Aviation Wing At Camp Bastion, Afghanistan.
6. Marine Col. James Christmas – July 18, 2013. Commanded 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit. Also, commanded the new Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit.
7. Army Brigadier General Bryan Roberts – May 2013. Commander, Ft. Jackson, SC.
8. Marine Gen. James Mattis – May 2013. Chief of CentCom.
9. Army Major General Ralph Baker – April 2013. Commander of Joint Task Force Horn of Africa at Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti, Africa
Year: 2012 (Overall total – 4 +24 = 28 Final total).
1. Marine General John R. Allen – Nov. 13, 2012. Commander, ISAF – International Security Assistance Force.
2. Army General David Petraeus – Nov. 9, 2012. Commander
International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A). Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012.
3. Navy Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette – Oct. 27, 2102. Commander, USS John C. Stennis strike group. Relieved within a day or so of Benghazi.
4. Army General Carter F. Ham – Oct. 18, 2012. Commander, AFRICOM. Relieved during Benghazi from direct command of AFRICOM.
Naval Officers (all in 2012): Total – 24
1. Cmdr. Derick Armstrong, Commander, guided missile destroyer USS The Sullivans.
2. Cmdr. Martin Arriola, Commander, USS Porter.
3. Capt. Antonio Cardoso, Commander, of Training Support Center San Diego.
4. Capt. James CoBell, Commander, Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic.
5. Cmdr. Joseph E. Darlak, Commander, USS Vandegrift.
6. Cmdr. Franklin Fernandez, Commander, Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24.
7. Cmdr. Ray Hartman, Commander, amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry.
8. Cmdr. Jon Haydel, Commander, USS San Diego.
9. Cmdr. Diego Hernandez, Commander, ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming.
10. Cmdr. Lee Hoey, Commander, Navy Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego.
11. Cmdr. Dennis Klein, Commander, submarine USS Columbia.
12. Capt. Marcia “Kim” Lyons, Commander, Naval Health Clinic New England.
13. Capt. Chuck Litchfield, Commander, USS Essex.
14. Capt. Robert Marin, Commander, USS Cowpens.
15. Capt. Sean McDonell, Commander, Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14.
16. Cmdr. Corrine Parker, Commander, Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1.
17. Capt. Lisa Raimondo, Commander, Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, Md.
18. Capt. Jeffrey Riedel, Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program.
19. Cmdr. Sara Santoski, Commander, Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15.
20. Cmdr. Sheryl Tannahill, Commander, Navy Operational Support Center Nashville.
21. Cmdr. Michael Ward, Commander, USS Pittsburgh.
22. Capt. Michael Wiegand, Commander, Southwest Regional Maintenance Center.
23. Capt. Ted Williams, Commander, Mount Whitney.
24. Cmdr. Jeffrey Wissel, Commander, of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1.
Year: 2011 Total – 1 + 157 = 158 overall
Army Major Gen. Peter Fuller – May 2011. A top U.S. commander in Afghanistan.
157 Air Force majors. Military advocates decry ‘illegal’ early terminations of 157 Air Force majors
Year: 2010 Total – 1 ( total)
1. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal – June 2010. Overall commander Afghanistan. Replaced by Gen. Petraeus.
1. Year: 2009 Total – 1 (total)
Army Gen. David D. McKiernan – 2009. First 4-star relieved since Truman relieved MacArthur. Commanded in Afghanistan.~Breitbart Facebook Picture
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From Breitbart's Facebook page...
And if at all possible, I'd like to have an actual, serious discussion so I'd as D1B and Cappy to sit this one out. 
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Bios on the 9 purged in 2013:
Blaze Sources: Obama Purging Military Commanders
Oct. 23, 2013 11:41amSara Carter
Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the Obama administration this year, leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is underway.
Retired generals and current senior commanders that have spoken with TheBlaze say the administration is not only purging the military of commanders they don’t agree with, but is striking fear in the hearts of those still serving.
The timing comes as the five branches of the U.S. armed forces are reducing staff due to budget cuts, and as U.S. troops are expected to withdraw from Afghanistan next year.
“I think they’re using the opportunity of the shrinkage of the military to get rid of people that don’t agree with them or not tow the party line. Remember, as (former White House chief of staff) Rahm Emanuel said, never waste a crisis,” a senior retired general told TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity because he still provide services to the government and fears possible retribution.
“Even as a retired general, it’s still possible for the administration to make life miserable for us. If we’re working with the government or have contracts, they can just rip that out from under us,” he said.
Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, an outspoken critic of the Obama administration, said the White House fails to take action or investigate its own, but finds it easy to fire military commanders “who have given their lives for their country.”
“Obama will not purge a civilian or political appointee because they have bought into Obama’s ideology,” Vallely said. “The White House protects their own. That’s why they stalled on the investigation into fast and furious, Benghazi and Obamacare. He’s intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged.”
A Pentagon official who asked to remain nameless because they were not authorized to speak on the matter said even “young officers, down through the ranks have been told not to talk about Obama or the politics of the White House. They are purging everyone and if you want to keep your job — just keep your mouth shut.
The Nine Military Commanders Fired This Year by the Obama Administration:
Gen. Carter Hamm, Army
Served as head of the United States African Command during the bloodshed in Benghazi, Libya when four American citizens, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens and two retired Navy Seals, were murdered by militants on Sept. 11, 2012. Senior military officials told TheBlaze Hamm was extremely critical of the Obama administration, including when reinforcements were not sent to help the U.S. citizens under attack in Benghazi. Hamm “resigned and retired” in April 2013.
Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette, Navy
Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three. He recently served as deputy commander of the U.S. Naval Forces, U.S. Central Command. He was in charge of Air Craft Carriers in the Mediterranean Sea the night of the Benghazi assault on Sept. 11, 2012. Under testimony, he told Congress there may not have been time to get the flight crews to Benghazi, but left the door open when he told Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) under cross-examination that he could have launched aircraft to the destination. He was later accused of using profanity in a public setting and making at least two racially insensitive comments. While he was cleared of any criminal violations under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he still faced administrative penalties that have ended his career.
Maj. Gen. Ralph Baker, Army
Major General Baker served as commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn at Camp Lamar in Djibouti, Africa. According to several military officials who spoke to TheBlaze, he was also involved in some aspect with the Benghazi incident Sept. 11, 2012. He was relieved of command and fired for allegedly groping a civilian, but no assault charges or sexual misconduct charges were filed with military JAG officials.
Brigadier Gen. Bryan Roberts, Army
General Roberts took command of Fort Jackson in 2011. He was considered a rising star in his field and served in Iraq during his service as the commanding officer of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team. He was the deputy commanding general of the United States Army Recruiting Command at Fort Knox, Ky. He was relieved of duty and fired for adultery — still on the books in the United States Code of Military Justice but rarely since President Bill Clinton’s indiscretions.
Maj. Gen. Gregg A. Sturdevant, Marine Corps
Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command and commander of the aviation wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. He was a highly-decorated Marine with two Naval and Marine Commendations, two Naval and Marine Good Conduct medals, as well as the Air Medal with a gold star. He was one of two commanding officers suddenly relieved of command and fired from the military for failure to use proper force protection at the camp after 15 Taliban fighters attacked Camp Bastion on Sept. 14, 2012, resulting in the deaths of Lt. Col. Christopher K. Raible, 40, and Sgt. Bradley W. Atwell, 27.
Maj. Gen. Charles M.M. Gurganus, Marine Corps
Regional commander in the Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan. Highly decorated with a Defense Superior Service Medal, two Legion of Merit with Valor, and three Meritorious Service Commendations. According to several military officials, Gurganus questioned having to use Afghan security patrols alongside American patrols after two officers were executed at their desk and a platoon was lead into an ambush on the front lines.
Lt. Gen. David Holmes Huntoon Jr, Army
Served as the 58th Superintendent of the United States Military Academy at West Point, N.Y. He graduated from the same academy in 1973 and had served in Senior Planning and Education Services through the majority of his career. He was “censored” for “an investigation” into an “improper relationship” according to the Department of Defense. Nothing was released to the nature of the improper relationship. Nothing was even mentioned if an actual investigation even took place.
Vice Adm. Tim Giardina, Navy
Deputy Commander of the United States Strategic Command. He was commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10, where every single one of the 18 Nuclear Submarines with Nuclear Trident Missiles of those three groups were in his command. This commander earned six Legions of Merit, Two Meritorious Service Medals, two Joint Service Commendation Medals, and several other medals and ribbons. He is under criminal investigation for the alleged use of counterfeit gambling chips, while playing a poker game at a western Iowa casino.
Major Gen. Michael Carey, Air Force
Commander 20th Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles at three operational wings and served in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. Carry was fired October 11, 2013, for “personal misbehavior,” according to ABC News. Pentagon and Air Force senior officials have remained relatively tight-lipped about Carry’s firing.
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The story that Admiral Gaouette could have launched aircraft for operations in Benghazi is false. There were no U.S. aircraft carriers in the Med that night. The Stennis was in the Pacific at the time of the attacks. However, we did have air assets in the region that could have reached Benghazi well before the attacks ended. We had two drones giving live video feeds and one of those drones was armed. We also have an air base at Aviano, Italy.
General Ham, on the other hand, was relieved that night because he attempted to organize a rescue in Benghazi. Somebody at DoD, DoS and the White House wanted those people dead that night and they got what they wanted.
General Ham, on the other hand, was relieved that night because he attempted to organize a rescue in Benghazi. Somebody at DoD, DoS and the White House wanted those people dead that night and they got what they wanted.
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Major General Fil was my boss in Iraq in 2004 and 2005 and then he later went on to be the commanding general for our forces in Korea. I saw that he was drummed out last year, but I dont see him on the Breitbart list. There was a rumor that he was unfaithful to his wife, but anyone who knew the guy finds this highly suspicious. I'm not saying it couldnt have happened, but it was definitely a major eyebrow raiser with me.
Anyway, there are more flag and general officers getting sacked than are on this list
Anyway, there are more flag and general officers getting sacked than are on this list
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Yeah, I thought so too...just couldn't find a comprehensive listing...CID1990 wrote:Major General Fil was my boss in Iraq in 2004 and 2005 and then he later went on to be the commanding general for our forces in Korea. I saw that he was drummed out last year, but I dont see him on the Breitbart list. There was a rumor that he was unfaithful to his wife, but anyone who knew the guy finds this highly suspicious. I'm not saying it couldnt have happened, but it was definitely a major eyebrow raiser with me.
Anyway, there are more flag and general officers getting sacked than are on this list
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AZGrizFan wrote:Yeah, I thought so too...just couldn't find a comprehensive listing...CID1990 wrote:Major General Fil was my boss in Iraq in 2004 and 2005 and then he later went on to be the commanding general for our forces in Korea. I saw that he was drummed out last year, but I dont see him on the Breitbart list. There was a rumor that he was unfaithful to his wife, but anyone who knew the guy finds this highly suspicious. I'm not saying it couldnt have happened, but it was definitely a major eyebrow raiser with me.
Anyway, there are more flag and general officers getting sacked than are on this list
YOU want a serious discussion and you cite Breitbart?
Dumbfuck.
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Budget cuts and force reductions.
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Hey, asswipe: Can you refute the info? If not, then fuck off. I don't give a fuck if it's huffpo....if the info is accurate, try to have an adult conversation about it.D1B wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah, I thought so too...just couldn't find a comprehensive listing...
YOU want a serious discussion and you cite Breitbart?
Dumbfuck.![]()
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None of these guys were fired because of budget cuts or force reductions. Try again.houndawg wrote:Budget cuts and force reductions.![]()
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What was the deal with Mattis? He was the best I MARDIV commander of my time with the Marines.
Your list also doesn't mention the commander and his Command Master Chief who were recently fired because their unit got money to support the Submarine Ball from strip clubs....
Your list also doesn't mention the commander and his Command Master Chief who were recently fired because their unit got money to support the Submarine Ball from strip clubs....

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I don't know what to make of the purge but to me it's been obvious for some time that we no longer manage the military for the purpose of achieving the best military we can. Egalitarianism has become the point. Progressive philosophy.
You know, stuff like trying to get more involvement from females and homosexuals. That's become more important than having the most effective military as possible.
Fortunately we have such a technological edge that it hasn't mattered. Thank goodness.
You know, stuff like trying to get more involvement from females and homosexuals. That's become more important than having the most effective military as possible.
Fortunately we have such a technological edge that it hasn't mattered. Thank goodness.
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So you want the men and women commanding our armed forces selected using criteria similar to how ambassadors are chosen. Obushma's taken that a step beyond what past Presidents have done as well. Ask Cid how that's working out for us.houndawg wrote:Budget cuts and force reductions.![]()
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If America had a humane foreign policy, we wouldn't need 3/4 of the standing military as it is. Of course, when you have to tax the average Joe to fund the MIC on a daily basis and yes Benghazi still smells funny. Too bad it didn't have to be that way. This country's reckoning day is going to swift and ugly I'm afraid.
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Really? The Army just announced sharp personnel cuts last week, to 450,000. Somebody gotta go...AZGrizFan wrote:None of these guys were fired because of budget cuts or force reductions. Try again.houndawg wrote:Budget cuts and force reductions.![]()
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I'm certain that this is written in English but fvck me to tears if I can decipher it.FCS PATRIOTS wrote:If America had a humane foreign policy, we wouldn't need 3/4 of the standing military as it is. Of course, when you have to tax the average Joe to fund the MIC on a daily basis and yes Benghazi still smells funny. Too bad it didn't have to be that way. This country's reckoning day is going to swift and ugly I'm afraid.
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Oh please. These officers serve at the pleasure of the commander-in-chief; the way its always been, the way it will always be. There's hundreds, thousands, of junior officers just waiting for the deadwood to clear out so they can have their chance.UNI88 wrote:So you want the men and women commanding our armed forces selected using criteria similar to how ambassadors are chosen. Obushma's taken that a step beyond what past Presidents have done as well. Ask Cid how that's working out for us.houndawg wrote:Budget cuts and force reductions.![]()
Business as usual, there will be winners and losers.
Nothing to see here folks, move along..
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So do US Attorneys, but if I remember correctly, people of your ilk had a screaming constipated shit fit when Dubs fired a few in 2006.houndawg wrote:Oh please. These officers serve at the pleasure of the commander-in-chief; the way its always been, the way it will always be.UNI88 wrote:
So you want the men and women commanding our armed forces selected using criteria similar to how ambassadors are chosen. Obushma's taken that a step beyond what past Presidents have done as well. Ask Cid how that's working out for us.
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Some of my ilk did. Not me, I laughed with glee when Dick Cheney shot a lawyer in the face, it reminded me that nobody is all bad.Baldy wrote:So do US Attorneys, but if I remember correctly, people of your ilk had a screaming constipated **** fit when Dubs fired a few in 2006.houndawg wrote:
Oh please. These officers serve at the pleasure of the commander-in-chief; the way its always been, the way it will always be.![]()
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Do you realize that there are women and gays, currently serving and risking their lives so you can fuck 9 year old girls and kick dogs? Gays aren't the problem. Your 1950s, Ward Cleaver ignorance is.JohnStOnge wrote:I don't know what to make of the purge but to me it's been obvious for some time that we no longer manage the military for the purpose of achieving the best military we can. Egalitarianism has become the point. Progressive philosophy.
You know, stuff like trying to get more involvement from females and homosexuals. That's become more important than having the most effective military as possible.
Fortunately we have such a technological edge that it hasn't mattered. Thank goodness.
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
Our methods of choosing who rises through the ranks and who doesn't has always been fraught with not being the most military efficient way of doing so, and it has been since even when we were fighting the Brits in the Revolution. There are always politically connected ones who get moved up despite not having the resume for it and there are always those who may be the best suited but for personal or political reasons they fall by the wayside. It's the reality of life at the top and it's served us well enough for 200+ years.JohnStOnge wrote:I don't know what to make of the purge but to me it's been obvious for some time that we no longer manage the military for the purpose of achieving the best military we can. Egalitarianism has become the point. Progressive philosophy.
You know, stuff like trying to get more involvement from females and homosexuals. That's become more important than having the most effective military as possible.
Fortunately we have such a technological edge that it hasn't mattered. Thank goodness.
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
No shit, shercock. But that ain't why THESE guys are getting fired. Surely even a simpleton such as yourself can see the difference?houndawg wrote:Really? The Army just announced sharp personnel cuts last week, to 450,000. Somebody gotta go...AZGrizFan wrote:
None of these guys were fired because of budget cuts or force reductions. Try again.
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
I wonder how many of the male officers on this list have unproven sexual harassment or sexual assault allegations against them.
I also wonder if Obama has some kind of plan to diversity-ize the upper ranks.
I also wonder if Obama has some kind of plan to diversity-ize the upper ranks.
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
Sexcapades are a part of the NSA Playbook.Pwns wrote:I wonder how many of the male officers on this list have unproven sexual harassment or sexual assault allegations against them.
I also wonder if Obama has some kind of plan to diversity-ize the upper ranks.
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
FCS PATRIOTS wrote:If America had a humane foreign policy, we wouldn't need 3/4 of the standing military as it is. Of course, when you have to tax the average Joe to fund the MIC on a daily basis and yes Benghazi still smells funny. Too bad it didn't have to be that way. This country's reckoning day is going to swift and ugly I'm afraid.
Nobody needs a "humane" foreign policy. There are really bad people out there...if they try to kill or hurt your people, kill them in whatever way reduces your own casualties.
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What if I have more personalities than that?
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Re: The Big Purge...What's REALLY Going On?
UNI88 wrote:So you want the men and women commanding our armed forces selected using criteria similar to how ambassadors are chosen. Obushma's taken that a step beyond what past Presidents have done as well. Ask Cid how that's working out for us.houndawg wrote:Budget cuts and force reductions.![]()
Business as usual, there will be winners and losers.
No, I want to do like the founding fathers wanted to do and avoid foreign entanglements and standing armies.
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