America's Five Most Miserable/Happy States

[clenz]

Um, no, clenzy, I wouldnta spent time lambasting Z. If he was supporting Native businesses even nominally, I would applaud him. YOU are in that business, I am NOT. You SHOULD be doing all that.

I do what I can, when I can. I'm doing SOMETHING and not avoiding. I make a CONSCIOUS effort to seek out Native enterprises when I'm there. I do the same thing in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Rather disingenuous to target someone who DOES make an effort.

Regarding your "experiences" with this poor group or that, this thread is not a dick-measuring contest. I'm just telling you to get out and see South Dakota because you've obviously missed major parts of it and perpetuate the myth that it's somehow Somalia-in-America.

Why does one have to be in that business to actively do it? Shouldn't everyone be in the business of helping those that need it no matter what their 9-5 get paid for job is?

I am not in that field anymore cap, and haven't been for months. I left the field to go into a job that gave me more time with my family at a higher pay...yet I can still do just as much as I did when I was in that job. What are you doing this weekend that you were so busy that you couldn't go spend a couple hours at a shelter in the cities? I'm betting you didn't do that...and likely haven't done that for years - if ever.

Everything I listed above wasn't part of my paid job - that was shit I did as a volunteer other than the adjudicated youth.

You buy gas from native american owned gas stations but don't do anything on the reservations? I guess it's better than nothing....If that counts than I've done a lot of helping in WI, MN, and SD with the time, and money, I've spent in native run casinos.

I've driven though a vast majority of SD, I've spent time on 3 different reservations. I've been there and I've done that Cap.

SD has some very pretty scenery if that is all you want to talk about. So does every state in the nation. However, once you get past the initial scenery what do you see? SD is a state in pretty bad shape outside of a few cities.

I'm not avoiding anything either. You paint with a rather broad brush a lot of the time and no one calls you on it. When that does happen you are a pretty good at avoiding what you started.

[houndawg]

SD is boring as ****...no other way around it.

I've been all over that state because I have family there...

Other than the hills, which are nice but just a giant tourist trap, the flatness makes Iowa seem mountainous. 98 percent of the state looks like it hasn't been upkept since the civil war and/or so poverish the **** is falling down.

Sioux Falls is nice...also had about 80 percent plus of the state's population. The Hills are nice... after that...well...

You're whacked, clenzy. Been to the Glacial Lakes region? Badlands? The grasslands? They have a sand hills area like Nebraska..... And what's wrong with flat? Tons of history in that "flatness". They have desert, rivers, the Coteau des Prairies, bluffs, buttes all over. Ever driven to Mobridge? Ever taken in the bluffs around Lake Oahe?

Next time, go as an adult, not a kid in the back of your dad's station wagon.

Road trip this summer.

[houndawg]

Fiver,
Taking advantage of a shitty (white man created) situation to damn an entire state.......? You doing anything to help?

Cap...outside of the tourist traps, and the Sioux Falls metro, that is what the state looks like. That's why I struggle to rank SD as a great state. That is exactly what almost all of my experiences in SD have been. My aunt has taught, and lived, in Lake Andes (the Yankton Indian Reservation) since the late 60s. She has taught at Lake Andes Community Schools, Marty Indian Schools, currently is a professor at Ihanktonwan Community College in Marty. She spent some time up in Mclaughlin at the Indian HS and Sitting Bull College up there.

I've spent a good amount of time out there and those pictures aren't exaggerating anything. Say what you want about the "white man" and whatever you want...the majority of SD (white or native) is extremely impoverished. While part of the state have gorgeous site seeing the rest of it is a dump. I've spent a decent amount of time over the summers growing up out there helping my aunt around the city doing whatever it was she was doing. Part of the problem at this point, and my aunt has completely bought into it, is that they realize they make more money by not doing anything and having the government do everything. Why go get a job and leave the res when they can play the race card/white guilt and have more income?

Does more need to be done to help these areas and people overcome the burden that was placed on them a long time ago? Yes. Do I also feel that they should work towards making the areas better rather than separating themselves even further from society while blaming societal lack of help? Yes. Neither of those situations is going to happen though, sadly. Both sides see how the other acts and goes "Well, if they aren't going to do anything to change it why should we?" and withdraw further from each other.


I spent 3 weeks in an extremely poor part of Matamoros, Tamaulipas helping with construction, homeless shelters, food banks, etc... and honestly the conditions they live in are very similar to what much of SD lives in.


What are you doing to help Cappy....other than playing the white shame card?

Where do they bring in the labor from to fill all the jobs that are going begging?

[∞∞∞]

I drove to Mitchell, South Dakota once. I didn't really see anything in the state (or past Chicago really).

I can't imagine living in that part of the country, but then again, I'm a "city boy" at heart.

[clenz]

Also..I don't have much PTO this year Cap - but you set a shorter field trip up and I'll see what I can do.

[Grizalltheway]

I'll use the GATW picture drama method. South Dakota is great. Take out Sioux Falls and it is going to plummet in all the rankings.

Uhh, Indian reservations are shitholes regardless of what state they're in.

[Grizalltheway]

If I drank as HALF as much as the citizens of Montana, I would be happy as well.

My liver is still recovering from drinking with the Griz at Chattanooga in 2008.

Fuckin A! Beer makes me happy, and locally brewed beer makes me even happier.

[AZGrizFan]

I donated to many, many Native American reservation casinos when I lived in AZ...

[Cap'n Cat]

Oh, clenzy......... Sign up for a Obamacare and get your scrip refilled, OK?

[clenz]

Oh, clenzy......... Sign up for a Obamacare and get your scrip refilled, OK?

I had insurance...lost it thanks to your boi

[houndawg]

Oh, clenzy......... Sign up for a Obamacare and get your scrip refilled, OK?

I had insurance...lost it thanks to your boi

There are some conks out there who desperately want to post your story. The ones they've been putting up keep falling apart under the slightest scrutiny.

[AZGrizFan]

I had insurance...lost it thanks to your boi

There are some conks out there who desperately want to post your story. The ones they've been putting up keep falling apart under the slightest scrutiny.

You are in complete fucking denial if you believe that statement.

[Gil Dobie]

There are some conks out there who desperately want to post your story. The ones they've been putting up keep falling apart under the slightest scrutiny.

You are in complete **** denial if you believe that statement.

I always thought dead men told no lies.

[houndawg]

You are in complete **** denial if you believe that statement.

I always thought dead men told no lies.

You are correct!

[houndawg]

There are some conks out there who desperately want to post your story. The ones they've been putting up keep falling apart under the slightest scrutiny.

You are in complete **** denial if you believe that statement.

source?

There should be lots of them out there, but the ones they post keep turning out to not be true. Kinda like "Joe the plumber", who by the way just took a union job.

[AZGrizFan]

You are in complete **** denial if you believe that statement.

source?

There should be lots of them out there, but the ones they post keep turning out to not be true. Kinda like "Joe the plumber", who by the way just took a union job.

It's well documented that over 5,000,000 people have LOST their insurance because of Obamacare.

[houndawg]

source?

There should be lots of them out there, but the ones they post keep turning out to not be true. Kinda like "Joe the plumber", who by the way just took a union job.

It's well documented that over 5,000,000 people have LOST their insurance because of Obamacare.

source?

[houndawg]

source?

There should be lots of them out there, but the ones they post keep turning out to not be true. Kinda like "Joe the plumber", who by the way just took a union job.

It's well documented that over 5,000,000 people have LOST their insurance because of Obamacare.

And of that 5,000,000 how many will not have access to affordable health care?

We heard the same whimpering and hand wringing when Medicare was implemented. It was going to be the end of Western civilization as we knew it. Thousands would perish because of it. Now even the hardcore tea party freaks will take your ass out with their Wal-Mart scooter if you even mention slashing Medicare.

[houndawg]

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[AZGrizFan]

It's well documented that over 5,000,000 people have LOST their insurance because of Obamacare.

source?

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In the market for individually-purchased health insurance, more than 4.8 million Americans have received notices that their preexisting plans are soon to be illegal, and will be cancelled. Many more cancellation notices are imminent.

[clenz]

It's well documented that over 5,000,000 people have LOST their insurance because of Obamacare.

And of that 5,000,000 how many will not have access to affordable health care?

doesn't matter...I liked what I had and was told time and time again

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Montana sucks, its a miserble shithole and we have 2.5 million Grizalltheways that live here........its that bad.

Tell your friends and DO NOT visit, just trust me on this one.

[Cap'n Cat]

And of that 5,000,000 how many will not have access to affordable health care?

doesn't matter...I liked what I had and was told time and time again

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OK, now, quit whining and get something else!

[Grizalltheway]

Montana sucks, its a miserble shithole and we have 2.5 million Grizalltheways that live here........its that bad.

Tell your friends and DO NOT visit, just trust me on this one.

Typical dumbass, selfish conk, not realizing how important tourism is to the state's economy.

[houndawg]

And of that 5,000,000 how many will not have access to affordable health care?

doesn't matter...I liked what I had and was told time and time again

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Too bad you believe what politicians tell you. But you'll probably have a better plan after you sign up, most everybody else does. Let us know what happens