Hey Kleenmrklean wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:Back to the problem incorporating some fun with National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) scores. The lowest grade NAEP math test score is for the 4th grade so lets go with that. Let's use New York State scores and assume students in each racial group at the school score like students in that racial group score in New York State overall.
The article says more than 2/3 of the students at the school are Black and Hispanic while 28 percent are White and Asian. So let's go with this breakdown for 4th graders at the school:
42 percent Black
30 percent Hispanic
20 percent White
8 percent Asian
So what would happen if you had a "Gifted in Math" program where let all 4th graders in the school take the 2013 4th grade NAEP math test and took those that scored well enough to be in the top 5 percent for New York State? Here's how the racial composition of that "gifted program" would look based on means and standard deviations you can obtain from the NAEP data explorer:
9 percent Black
16 percent Hispanic
39 percent Asian
37 percent White
That would be the result of completely fair application of an objective standard. But you can bet our culture would have problems with that because, in a school that's 42 percent Black, only 9 percent of participants in the gifted program are. And my bet is that is exactly what's going on here. Reality in terms of percentages of students that test into the gifted program by race doesn't fit the egalitarian ideal. So they get rid of the gifted program.
To me, any reasonable person would think that such a mentality hurts this society. A reasonable person would think it keeps it from being as successful a society as it could be. But it's a mentality that dominates our culture right now.
The code word is "diversity." But what the code word means is "enough Blacks and/or Hispanics." And, really, it's usually "enough Blacks."
As the cliche goes, you don't hear anybody complain about a lack of diversity among NBA players. And, racially, that's about as "un diverse" a group as you're going to find in a professional area. It's not really "diversity" they're worried about. "Diversity" is just the angle used to get there since saying "quotas" is now illegal.
I knew if we let him talk enough, he would say **** like this
Here's a mind bender for you
How does "diversity" NOT mean "less white"?
