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CID1990 wrote:I'll be curious to see what kind of evidence or lack thereof that will come out in this case. There's really not going to be anything new, no evidence will exist...

Given the general state of the black man in SC in the 1940s, I'd say that there is a statistical probability this kid was railroaded.

But that said, we could re-try every murder trial ever held in the US that occurred before 1950 and probably overturn half of them. This is a show, nothing more.

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The saddest story of them all is what happened to Emmitt Till. Unreal. :ohno:
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mrklean wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:Kleany, call me what you will, but isn't this just clogging up a courtroom for something that happened 70 years ago?

Justice has to be done. If you ae a real American, you would do the right thing, no matter how painful it might be.
Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
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mrklean wrote:

Justice has to be done. If you ae a real American, you would do the right thing, no matter how painful it might be.
Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
The American Japs got paid for WWII so did the Native Americans. Why is this any Different. I know he still have family members that are alive. So cut them a damn check and move on. The price you pay for Mob Justice and Biggotry. Southern White Men knew they could rape women, small child or boy and then blame it on a Black man and the whole town would belive that shyt.
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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
The American Japs got paid for WWII so did the Native Americans. Why is this any Different. I know he still have family members that are alive. So cut them a damn check and move on. The price you pay for Mob Justice and Biggotry. Southern White Men knew they could rape women, small child or boy and then blame it on a Black man and the whole town would belive that shyt.
Cut the family a check for what? The family hasn't done anything to warrant a payment. The state made a grave error 70 years ago but nothing can be done today to rectify it. This is purely symbolic and a waste of time, money and emotion. Why should tax payers that weren't alive then OR had no involvement pay for something like this? My 95 yr old grandmother had nothing to do with it. If that's the case, I want the black community to pay my family the hospital bill(adjust for inflation of course) for my father after he was jumped and beat by 3 black boys in 1962. :roll:

This is a form of reparations and is totally ridiculous. Japanese being paid after WW2 for being located up made sense back then. This was 70 years ago. Should the Booth family pay some amount to the ancestors of Abe Lincoln? C'mon baby bird, this is nonsense.
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Take a step back from the emotion here people............and think about all the crime that WASNT committed because of this execution. I know 98% of you will come to the only logical conclusion.


Lets get back to worthwhile topics like Justin Bieber spending $75k at a strip club over the weekend.



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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
The American Japs got paid for WWII so did the Native Americans. Why is this any Different. I know he still have family members that are alive. So cut them a damn check and move on. The price you pay for Mob Justice and Biggotry. Southern White Men knew they could rape women, small child or boy and then blame it on a Black man and the whole town would belive that shyt.

You guys have been getting paid for nothing for years, its time to ween you off. We are way past even.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mrklean wrote:

Justice has to be done. If you ae a real American, you would do the right thing, no matter how painful it might be.
Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
The family has said they want to clear his name. There's been no mention of money. I find it foolish to waste time 70 years later, but hey. If the family has the money and wants to clear his name, then go for it. I do not want SC to pay money to anyone. That's absurd. This was most likely a wrongful conviction. I mean, a 14 yr old killing 2 girls in such a brutal manner makes no sense, especially when there was no evidence brought up of a violent past. You have conflicting reports from people that can't really be trusted (the son of the sheriff and Georges cell-mate). It wouldn't surprise me if the Sheriff knew who killed (maybe a relative or friend) those girls, and used George as a patsy. :coffee: :twocents:
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Speaking from an unemotional standpoint, according to Klean's article, nearly all evidence has disappeared. Not sure how there can be a real trial at this point (whether or not the original trial was fair).

If he was unfairly executed and the family is looking to clear his name, I have no problem with them going through the pardoning process. Apparently, in 2009, there was a pardon done for 2 people who were improperly executed in South Carolina in the early 1900s when the attorney was able to prove they were innocent.
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Agree. However, let's see how this plays out. Do you believe that anyone deserves any financial compensation for the death of a 14 year old 70 years ago? Let's see if they win the case and go after money. If they don't go after money, I will tip my hat to them for a job well done in gaining justice. If they do, I will consider this nothing but a money making scheme.
The family has said they want to clear his name. There's been no mention of money. I find it foolish to waste time 70 years later, but hey. If the family has the money and wants to clear his name, then go for it. I do not want SC to pay money to anyone. That's absurd. This was most likely a wrongful conviction. I mean, a 14 yr old killing 2 girls in such a brutal manner makes no sense, especially when there was no evidence brought up of a violent past. You have conflicting reports from people that can't really be trusted (the son of the sheriff and Georges cell-mate). It wouldn't surprise me if the Sheriff knew who killed (maybe a relative or friend) those girls, and used George as a patsy. :coffee: :twocents:
Ibenez, its what they did back then. Look at Rosewood, Fl. Same damn thing. They used it as an excuse to go kill a little black boy. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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mrklean wrote:
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The family has said they want to clear his name. There's been no mention of money. I find it foolish to waste time 70 years later, but hey. If the family has the money and wants to clear his name, then go for it. I do not want SC to pay money to anyone. That's absurd. This was most likely a wrongful conviction. I mean, a 14 yr old killing 2 girls in such a brutal manner makes no sense, especially when there was no evidence brought up of a violent past. You have conflicting reports from people that can't really be trusted (the son of the sheriff and Georges cell-mate). It wouldn't surprise me if the Sheriff knew who killed (maybe a relative or friend) those girls, and used George as a patsy. :coffee: :twocents:
Ibenez, its what they did back then. Look at Rosewood, Fl. Same damn thing. They used it as an excuse to go kill a little black boy. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
May they find a special place in HELL :twisted:
We cannot deliver justice today, tomorrow or 20 years from now. This is to make the family feel better.
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote:
Ibenez, its what they did back then. Look at Rosewood, Fl. Same damn thing. They used it as an excuse to go kill a little black boy. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
May they find a special place in HELL :twisted:

We cannot deliver justice today, tomorrow or 20 years from now. This is to make the family feel better.
Its the right thing to do. Clear his good name. You are doing what should of been done 70 years ago.
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mrklean wrote:
Ibanez wrote:

We cannot deliver justice today, tomorrow or 20 years from now. This is to make the family feel better.
Its the right thing to do. Clear his good name. You are doing what should of been done 70 years ago.
I'm not doing anything. Clear his name for his family's sake, ok. But don't pay any money to the family. To me, that'd be disrespectful.

"Uh..you know when we killed your 14 yr old brother in 1944? Yeah, that was our bad. Here's $1.2M. We cool, bro?"
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Why waste time and money "clearing a name" that nobody remembers or even cares about 70 years later?

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tribe_pride wrote:Speaking from an unemotional standpoint, according to Klean's article, nearly all evidence has disappeared. Not sure how there can be a real trial at this point (whether or not the original trial was fair).

If he was unfairly executed and the family is looking to clear his name, I have no problem with them going through the pardoning process. Apparently, in 2009, there was a pardon done for 2 people who were improperly executed in South Carolina in the early 1900s when the attorney was able to prove they were innocent.
That's exactly what I'm saying. A trial is silly and meaningless. Is there going to be a prosecution to present evidence? NO.

Go through the pardon process.
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The guy is dead. A new trial isn't going to help him. What a total waste of resources.
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mrklean wrote:SUMTER, S.C. (AP) — A 14-year-old black boy executed nearly 70 years ago is finally getting another day in court. Newspaper stories about Stinney's trial offer little clue whether any evidence was introduced beyond the teen's confession and an autopsy report. Some people around Alcolu said bloody clothes were taken from Stinney's home, but never introduced at trial because of his confession. No record of those clothes exists.

Relatives of one of the girls killed, 11-year-old Betty Binnicker, have recently spoke out as well, saying Stinney was known around town as a bully who threatened to fight or kill people who came too close to the grass where he grazed the family cow.
Justice was done...70 years ago. :nod:

Confession? Check. Threats of violence? Check. Bully...thug background? Check.

And now people like klean...who know NOTHING about what happened...want a new trial when all of the evidence is gone. :rofl: :rofl:

Here's an idea...why don't we just try EVERYONE twice...the second time 70 years later when the evidence is gone. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! :dunce:
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Cluck U wrote:
mrklean wrote:SUMTER, S.C. (AP) — A 14-year-old black boy executed nearly 70 years ago is finally getting another day in court. Newspaper stories about Stinney's trial offer little clue whether any evidence was introduced beyond the teen's confession and an autopsy report. Some people around Alcolu said bloody clothes were taken from Stinney's home, but never introduced at trial because of his confession. No record of those clothes exists.

Relatives of one of the girls killed, 11-year-old Betty Binnicker, have recently spoke out as well, saying Stinney was known around town as a bully who threatened to fight or kill people who came too close to the grass where he grazed the family cow.
Justice was done...70 years ago. :nod:

Confession? Check. Threats of violence? Check. Bully...thug background? Check.
And now people like klean...who know NOTHING about what happened...want a new trial when all of the evidence is gone. :rofl: :rofl:

Here's an idea...why don't we just try EVERYONE twice...the second time 70 years later when the evidence is gone. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! :dunce:

Example #1......This is why you are having a new trial. Rednecks like this don't care about Justice :coffee:
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mrklean wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
Justice was done...70 years ago. :nod:

Confession? Check. Threats of violence? Check. Bully...thug background? Check.
And now people like klean...who know NOTHING about what happened...want a new trial when all of the evidence is gone. :rofl: :rofl:

Here's an idea...why don't we just try EVERYONE twice...the second time 70 years later when the evidence is gone. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! :dunce:

Example #1......This is why you are having a new trial. Rednecks like this don't care about Justice :coffee:
We get it, Klean.

Justice means no black dudes are ever convicted of crimes, and all convictions prior to 1968 should be vacated because... racism
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CID1990 wrote:
mrklean wrote:

Example #1......This is why you are having a new trial. Rednecks like this don't care about Justice :coffee:
We get it, Klean.

Justice means no black dudes are ever convicted of crimes, and all convictions prior to 1968 should be vacated because... racism

Hey Redneck, WHo the Phuck said this? Trust me, no Black man or Jewish Man(ask Leo Frank) would ever get off for rapping a white girl....NEVER!!!!!!
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mrklean wrote:
Cluck U wrote:Justice was done...70 years ago. :nod:

Confession? Check. Threats of violence? Check. Bully...thug background? Check.
And now people like klean...who know NOTHING about what happened...want a new trial when all of the evidence is gone. :rofl: :rofl:

Here's an idea...why don't we just try EVERYONE twice...the second time 70 years later when the evidence is gone. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! :dunce:

Example #1......This is why you are having a new trial. Rednecks like this don't care about Justice :coffee:
No, that wasn't Example #1. Blacknecks like you don't care about justice. YOU provided Example #1 below:
mrklean wrote:
Its the right thing to do. Clear his good name. You are doing what should of been done 70 years ago.
YOU, idiot, are already proclaiming the black boy innocent simply because he was black...because of YOUR racist attitude. :lol:

If you are so interested in doing the RIGHT THING, you should go to Africa to hunt down the black people who raped his ancestors and sold his ancestors into slavery. But that would be out of your league, no? :rofl:
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Cluck U wrote:
mrklean wrote:

Example #1......This is why you are having a new trial. Rednecks like this don't care about Justice :coffee:
No, that wasn't Example #1. Blacknecks like you don't care about justice. YOU provided Example #1 below:
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Its the right thing to do. Clear his good name. You are doing what should of been done 70 years ago.
YOU, idiot, are already proclaiming the black boy innocent simply because he was black...because of YOUR racist attitude. :lol:

If you are so interested in doing the RIGHT THING, you should go to Africa to hunt down the black people who raped his ancestors and sold his ancestors into slavery. But that would be out of your league, no? :rofl:

I see you still have no WOMEN :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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mrklean wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
No, that wasn't Example #1. Blacknecks like you don't care about justice. YOU provided Example #1 below:



YOU, idiot, are already proclaiming the black boy innocent simply because he was black...because of YOUR racist attitude. :lol:

If you are so interested in doing the RIGHT THING, you should go to Africa to hunt down the black people who raped his ancestors and sold his ancestors into slavery. But that would be out of your league, no? :rofl:

I see you still have no WOMEN :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WHITE POWER!!!!
And you, once again, demonstrated that you know you lost your argument (actually, both of them...I am married). :nod: :thumb:

BLACK IGNORANCE!...fully on display! :clap:
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Cluck U wrote:
mrklean wrote:

I see you still have no WOMEN :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WHITE POWER!!!!
And you, once again, demonstrated that you know you lost your argument (actually, both of them...I am married). :nod: :thumb:

BLACK IGNORANCE!...fully on display! :clap:

AGAIN another white bigot who will not grow the phuck up. Its 2014 not 1914. PLEASE DO US A FAVOR...DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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