Uh Oh Christie...

[kalm]

Nice campaign ad bought with federal emergency relief $'s.

I know you are kidding, but I'll borrow your vehicle to address the anal spelunker.

The money was going to be spent on a set of tourism driven commercials in order to get tourists to come to the New Jersey beaches. More tourists = more money for those, "supposedly" impacted by the storm. I say "supposedly" because there were plenty of areas that were OK, but everyone wants a piece of the pie.

Anyway, this is not new news. It was reported a LONG time ago...and some Democrats were upset because a firm said that they had bid $2MM less than the one Christie chose but were not chosen because they didn't want to feature Christie. Of course, nothing was said as to the quality of the firm's proposal, or WHY they would not want to feature Christie (who was THE face of the storm).

Now, if someone could prove that the ONLY reason the more expensive firm was chosen was because Christie wanted to put on a campaign promo, and not a well done tourism TV add, then you might have something that might bother the Liberal people that have already spittle coming out of their mouths. The anal retentive are called anal retentive for a reason.

However, as a fellow UD grad already stated, these adds ran in markets outside of New Jersey (although they do cross over into the Tri-state areas surrounding Jersey) and they were well received. Furthermore, Christie actually was a great face to run in those adds as most people trusted him, liked him (versus other politicians), and were willing to rally to his cause of rebuilding the area. I have a friend with a business in Brigantine, and he said everyone in the area liked the adds and thought it sent the right message to get tourists to come back to the Jersey beaches (people were booking other beaches - DE, MD, VA because they thought all of Jersey was destroyed). But hey, let's not listen to those who might have actual input.

The Donks are taking time to rehash this issue because they think they see a wounded Christie. They are using the deaths and damage of the victims of the hurricane to make political points. dback and his ilk should be ashamed.

Oh, we should be hoping that Holder & Co. are expanding their investigation into misused funds by taking down every "Welcome to __________, Governor ____________" sign in the country...and look into any violations that Obama committed when he, for political purposes, told the world how we found Osama (and the resulting deaths to innocent people due to the release of those tactics).

It's all theater...on both sides.

[dbackjon]

???

One could argue that this administration began predatory politics in August with Sandy investigations before calling out Christie for the same thing last week.

The DOJ received a complaint - they started an investigation.

You know, their job.

[AZGrizFan]

One could argue that this administration began predatory politics in August with Sandy investigations before calling out Christie for the same thing last week.

The DOJ received a complaint - they started an investigation.

You know, their job.

Well, there's a first time for everything, huh?

[CID1990]

One could argue that this administration began predatory politics in August with Sandy investigations before calling out Christie for the same thing last week.

The DOJ received a complaint - they started an investigation.

You know, their job.

Wow! Good to see they finally remembered that's how it works.

[CID1990]

I'm surprised at the Republicans who dislike Christie. He's your only shot at keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House from Jan 2017 through Jan 2025.

Oh they dislike him (it's all the rage right now)
But come time to vote - they'll vote for him - if history has shown us anything about the way american vote

There really might not be any difference in the two.

The only thing I am unsure about is how much of a global interventionist he would turn out to be.

[Grizalltheway]

For all the bloviating about F&F and how supposedly no one was held accountable, that's just patenly untrue. If you don't like Holder and think he should have been gone months ago, fine. But enough with the BS about nothing being done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heads-roll- ... stigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AZGrizFan]

For all the bloviating about F&F and how supposedly no one was held accountable, that's just patenly untrue. If you don't like Holder and think he should have been gone months ago, fine. But enough with the BS about nothing being done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heads-roll- ... stigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other ATF managers reportedly face similar fates, and announcements could be made soon, though neither they nor their attorneys would confirm it. They are: Mark Chait, who was ATF's assistant director for field operations; Bill Newell, who was ATF's Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix; and George Gillett, Newell's second in command. Chait's attorney David Laufman stated in an email: "Mr. Chait has not been advised of any adverse finding or recommendation by the Professional Review Board at ATF, and any such action would be utterly without merit."
Another key Fast and Furious figure who's leaving the Justice Department today is Attorney General Eric Holder's chief of staff Gary Grindler. Grindler was faulted by the Justice Department's Inspector General for not informing Holder about the "significant and troubling" link between ATF's Operation Fast and Furious, and rifles found at the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010.


In announcing his departure this week, Holder made no mention of Fast and Furious, and said Grindler "has demonstrated time and again his good judgment and an ability to make the tough - and correct - decisions." Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who led the House investigation into Fast and Furious, said Grindler's "departure from the Justice Department is warranted and long overdue."

Oh, yeah. Holder REALLY dropped the hammer, didn't he?

Fucking HOLDER was the one who should have been taken out back and shot. But he used Obama's "I didn't know anything" defense....which seems to work very well for donks.

[Grizalltheway]

For all the bloviating about F&F and how supposedly no one was held accountable, that's just patenly untrue. If you don't like Holder and think he should have been gone months ago, fine. But enough with the BS about nothing being done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heads-roll- ... stigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other ATF managers reportedly face similar fates, and announcements could be made soon, though neither they nor their attorneys would confirm it. They are: Mark Chait, who was ATF's assistant director for field operations; Bill Newell, who was ATF's Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix; and George Gillett, Newell's second in command. Chait's attorney David Laufman stated in an email: "Mr. Chait has not been advised of any adverse finding or recommendation by the Professional Review Board at ATF, and any such action would be utterly without merit."
Another key Fast and Furious figure who's leaving the Justice Department today is Attorney General Eric Holder's chief of staff Gary Grindler. Grindler was faulted by the Justice Department's Inspector General for not informing Holder about the "significant and troubling" link between ATF's Operation Fast and Furious, and rifles found at the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010.


In announcing his departure this week, Holder made no mention of Fast and Furious, and said Grindler "has demonstrated time and again his good judgment and an ability to make the tough - and correct - decisions." Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who led the House investigation into Fast and Furious, said Grindler's "departure from the Justice Department is warranted and long overdue."

Oh, yeah. Holder REALLY dropped the hammer, didn't he?

Fucking HOLDER was the one who should have been taken out back and shot. But he used Obama's "I didn't know anything" defense....which seems to work very well for donks.

Just like Reagan should have been taken out and shot after Iran-Contra, right? Wait, no, he's the greatest president of the 20th century in your world.

Can you prove Holder he knew anything about it? Do you know every thing all of your subordinates do on a daily basis?

[CID1990]

For all the bloviating about F&F and how supposedly no one was held accountable, that's just patenly untrue. If you don't like Holder and think he should have been gone months ago, fine. But enough with the BS about nothing being done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heads-roll- ... stigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep. You really believe Holder knew nothing, don't you?

It has been pretty well established through emails and other documentary evidence that he did know, and in fact once DoJ was called on it, they retracted and said Holder didn't understand the question. Yep, nothing to see here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/atf-fast-an ... july-2010/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Money quote: "The Justice Department told CBS News that the officials in those emails were talking about a different case started before Eric Holder became Attorney General. And tonight they tell CBS News, Holder misunderstood that question from the committee - he did know about Fast and Furious - just not the details."

Those emails that were circulating weren't from worker bees. They were between high ranking attorneys on Holder's staff. They never in a million years would have admitted that if the guy wasn't in danger of a perjury charge (that never would have been prosecuted... like the contempt charge).

I worked in law enforcement for long enough to know what was going on here. But hell, you dont have to have worked in that field to know that the whole thing stinks. I guess this is one of those suspensions of disbelief you have to engage in that Senator Clinton once described.

[AZGrizFan]

Can you prove Holder he knew anything about it? Do you know every thing all of your subordinates do on a daily basis?

NOBODY in Obama's administration seems to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. It's their standard response. Holder should be fired for incompetence, not F&F.

[SDHornet]

Can you prove Holder he knew anything about it? Do you know every thing all of your subordinates do on a daily basis?

NOBODY in Obama's administration seems to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. It's their standard response. Holder should be fired for incompetence, not F&F.

Accountability just isn't in people's lexicon these days.

[Ibanez]

NOBODY in Obama's administration seems to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. It's their standard response. Holder should be fired for incompetence, not F&F.

Accountability just isn't in people's lexicon these days.

Has anyone seen my lexicon??

[Ibanez]

One could argue that this administration began predatory politics in August with Sandy investigations before calling out Christie for the same thing last week.

The DOJ received a complaint - they started an investigation.

You know, their job.

Hahahahahahahaha. That's rich. Thanks for the laugh.

[CAA Flagship]

Accountability just isn't in people's lexicon these days.

Has anyone seen my lexicon??

I thought the little fucker dressed in green only comes around every March 17th.

[CID1990]

Accountability just isn't in people's lexicon these days.

Has anyone seen my lexicon??

No, and neither have you.

At least not since the last time you squatted over a mirror

[BDKJMU]

Oh they dislike him (it's all the rage right now)
But come time to vote - they'll vote for him - if history has shown us anything about the way american vote

But the Republicans in the batshit crazy south get first crack at kneecapping him in the primaries. You're almost guaranteed to get a genius like this from the red team. Our poor country is so ****. How is Australia for emigration? I need to start making plans:

You won't be able to take your guns with you. Private ownshership of firearms is severely restricted.

[93henfan]

But the Republicans in the batshit crazy south get first crack at kneecapping him in the primaries. You're almost guaranteed to get a genius like this from the red team. Our poor country is so ****. How is Australia for emigration? I need to start making plans:

You won't be able to take your guns with you. Private ownshership of firearms is severely restricted.

But they don't have uppities and mexicans, so it's probably really safe.

[BDKJMU]

You won't be able to take your guns with you. Private ownshership of firearms is severely restricted.

But they don't have uppities and mexicans, so it's probably really safe.

They have aborigines....

[93henfan]

If I hear another person say "bloviate", "obfuscate", or "lexicon" on here again...

Speak English, motherfuckers!

[93henfan]

But they don't have uppities and mexicans, so it's probably really safe.

They have aborigines....

They know their place.

[YoUDeeMan]

It's all theater...on both sides.

Indeed, all the world is a stage.

[CAA Flagship]

You won't be able to take your guns with you. Private ownshership of firearms is severely restricted.

But they don't have uppities and mexicans, so it's probably really safe.

Yeah but there are a lot of Asians there and...................... Wait..................... ............You really ARE moving there, aren't you?

[CAA Flagship]

Would NJ go red?

http://news.yahoo.com/christie-odds-bet ... 48640.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In a Rasmussen poll of likely New Jersey voters — taken following Christie's lengthy press conference in which he apologized for his staffers' involvement in the George Washington Bridge closure — nearly 40 percent said the incident would have no impact on their decision to vote for him in a potential presidential race, while 14 percent said they would be more likely to vote for him.

[mrklean]

Can you prove Holder he knew anything about it? Do you know every thing all of your subordinates do on a daily basis?

NOBODY in Obama's administration seems to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. It's their standard response. Holder should be fired for incompetence, not F&F.

Just like the WMD's, we are STILL looking for

[93henfan]

But they don't have uppities and mexicans, so it's probably really safe.

Yeah but there are a lot of Asians there and...................... Wait..................... ............You really ARE moving there, aren't you?

Winning.